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Old 05-10-2017, 01:04 PM
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First time buyer needs some info :)

Hey all,

I have been thinking about buying a Jeep Wrangler Sport for some time because I have always found them sooo nice, and I am currently looking more actively at some. Obviously, I have some questions and I thought I would ask them because many of you look like pros who know that stuff a lot! So here are a few questions to start with :
  1. Can it be realtively safe? Is it safe if I keep a hard top? I heard that soft tops can easily be broken into, but I would like to keep a hard top most of the time. So is it safe if you keep a hard top or is it not much better than a soft top?
  2. Is it hard to break? How long can a Jeep Wrangler approximately last if I use it to do "normal" everyday stuff? I know many people say "don't buy one if you don't plan to go off-road" and that kind of stuff, but I don't care. I would like to use it for some "standard" stuff and I am perfectly fine with it...! So, I would like to know if it is hard to break and pretty resistant if I don't beat it much from doing off-road stuff.
  3. Is every repair really expensive or is it in the standard if I use to "normally". I mean, are all the parts and work to do on especially expensive because it is a Jeep, or is it "normal" if I do not beat it from doing off road and too crazy stuff?
  4. I want a new Jeep or one that is a few years old at most, but I was wondering how much mileage starts to be "a lot" for a Jeep? I want to pay over some years, so would I be better to get a new one or a used one could be a good deal too? I mainly want to buy a new one because I want some warranty and I don't want problems or for the jeep to "break" out of the blue because of whatever reason. For example, do you think that a 2015 with, say, 60kish kilometer or so on the counter would be a good thing, or would I be better buying a new one? (because there doesn't seem to be that much or a big difference in the price between a 2015 and a new one)

Well, I guess that's it for now... I probably will have more questions coming along the way. Also, I am welcoming any other info you guys might want to add to help me in my search!!

Thanks a lot to all of you!

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Hey all,

I have been thinking about buying a Jeep Wrangler Sport for some time because I have always found them sooo nice, and I am currently looking more actively at some. Obviously, I have some questions and I thought I would ask them because many of you look like pros who know that stuff a lot! So here are a few questions to start with :
  1. Can it be realtively safe? Is it safe if I keep a hard top? I heard that soft tops can easily be broken into, but I would like to keep a hard top most of the time. So is it safe if you keep a hard top or is it not much better than a soft top?
  2. Is it hard to break? How long can a Jeep Wrangler approximately last if I use it to do "normal" everyday stuff? I know many people say "don't buy one if you don't plan to go off-road" and that kind of stuff, but I don't care. I would like to use it for some "standard" stuff and I am perfectly fine with it...! So, I would like to know if it is hard to break and pretty resistant if I don't beat it much from doing off-road stuff.
  3. Is every repair really expensive or is it in the standard if I use to "normally". I mean, are all the parts and work to do on especially expensive because it is a Jeep, or is it "normal" if I do not beat it from doing off road and too crazy stuff?
  4. I want a new Jeep or one that is a few years old at most, but I was wondering how much mileage starts to be "a lot" for a Jeep? I want to pay over some years, so would I be better to get a new one or a used one could be a good deal too? I mainly want to buy a new one because I want some warranty and I don't want problems or for the jeep to "break" out of the blue because of whatever reason. For example, do you think that a 2015 with, say, 60kish kilometer or so on the counter would be a good thing, or would I be better buying a new one? (because there doesn't seem to be that much or a big difference in the price between a 2015 and a new one)

Well, I guess that's it for now... I probably will have more questions coming along the way. Also, I am welcoming any other info you guys might want to add to help me in my search!!

Thanks a lot to all of you!
1) Soft tops are easy to get into no matter what. Hard tops make it more difficult, for sure, but any thief with enough desire to get at what they can see will probably make effort. This will be prevalent in nearly any car on the market. I have both, and driving without doors does make me leery about what I leave behind, but I do become more conscientious of these things. The hard top does keep my nerves at ease more for sure.

2) These things are durable for sure. I've made a variety of modifications myself, and somehow it still hasn't left me on the side of the road (other than my battery somehow dying...probably my fault). These are designed with the Off-road community in mind so they have a good track record of lasting.

3) There is an abundance of parts on the market to make fixes relatively easy/cheap. Regular maintenance is on par with most vehicles out there. Especially if you treat it nicely (my girlfriend thinks I baby my JK), it'll treat you nicely.

4) High mileage is relatively up to you. If you baby your vehicles, even 100k can be reasonably low. My buddy is a mechanic and he's kept vehicles running over 200k with ease (granted the vehicle body began to wear down before the engine). I hope to get at least another 100k on my JK (it's currently at 103k + change).

The great thing about these vehicles is they hold value well. Even with mods. Granted if a mod is done poorly, be careful there. Most guys that do their work have an idea of what they're doing.
My JK was bought with $22500, at 35k miles. Since, I've put probably $10k into aftermarket stuff, and at this point, I hope I don't have to get rid of it EVER.

I personally feel that if you want a JK, now's the time to get one. Most of the mid-year changes have been made to the platform, so most/all bugs should be out of the system. Once the JL models start coming out, there will almost always be some sort of bugs to sort out. It's just the natural way products are made.

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You're overthinking it. You want a Jeep - get one.

Soft Tops and breaking into one. You experience the process every time you Pee.

Hard Tops. Bricks can break into every vehicle with a hard top and they're cheap (Bricks that is)

Repair? Average "IF" a Pro is needed. Most stuff can be done DIY and lots of the parts are common to average Farm equipment (like your utility trailer lights) How much do you pay yourself?

Jeeps are Great vehicles and ones (in this day and age) the common man or woman can still work on w/o a degree from NASA.
Used Jeeps hold value, look at base model New Jeeps.

Good luck.
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If you want something with low or no mileage, you're better off buying new. Jeep is one of the few vehicles that have very little depreciation in the first 2 years. You will often see year old examples within $2000 of a brand new Jeep. For this reason, I ordered like many other people. There's something about picking every single option and getting that window sticker with your name on it that makes the Jeep even more special. If you want something with mods/lift/etc.., then you can usually buy something cheaper used versus buying knew and modding yourself.
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You're overthinking it. You want a Jeep - get one.

Soft Tops and breaking into one. You experience the process every time you Pee.

Hard Tops. Bricks can break into every vehicle with a hard top and they're cheap (Bricks that is)

Repair? Average "IF" a Pro is needed. Most stuff can be done DIY and lots of the parts are common to average Farm equipment (like your utility trailer lights) How much do you pay yourself?

Jeeps are Great vehicles and ones (in this day and age) the common man or woman can still work on w/o a degree from NASA.
Used Jeeps hold value, look at base model New Jeeps.

Good luck.


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You're overthinking it. You want a Jeep - get one.

This. 1,000 times this.

Jeeps are a lot of fun and I have loved everyone I owned.

They're noisey, they aren't comfortable, they don't have the best build quality, the mileage is awful, the on road performance is not good... but there's something about them. People either love them or hate them.

If you end up hating it there's always someone out there looking for one.
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This. 1,000 times this.

Jeeps are a lot of fun and I have loved everyone I owned.

They're noisey, they aren't comfortable, they don't have the best build quality, the mileage is awful, the on road performance is not good... but there's something about them. People either love them or hate them.

If you end up hating it there's always someone out there looking for one.
If you happen to buy a 2012+ JK firecracker red, Rubicon, happen to add ACE stubby front bumper, ACE tire carrier, Warn Winch, some M/T 33x12.5 tires, a roof rack, and a 2.5" lift, and you happen to not like it at all, I'd be more than willing to take it off your hands...
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I ordered mine from the factory and I am glad I did...I looked at used ones...I determined I could get a brand new one with a warranty for less money...the used ones are priced high...even those with over 100 thousand miles...I think much better to buy new.

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So, my reason for looking at a used Jeep is that I found one in Anvil (which they don't make anymore, but is my favorite color) and I was looking at paying $40k (out the door price in CA) for a Sport S Unltd with very few options, but found a used Sahara Ulntd with every upgrade I ever wanted, including an installed backup camera, for the same price as the new Sport S. My hesitation is: the Sahara has 26k on it- not too bad, but I don't know where they drove it! I'm going to test drive it this weekend... I actually posted about this in another thread but wonder what you think!
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Great...

Now that I've become familiar with the features of my 2012 JK, and the features that can be optioned out of the factory, I keep going back to the Jeep.com site and building my 2017 model....

Doesn't help that I half joked with the girlfriend about getting her a jeep instead of a ring. My logic was that a Jeep has four (sometimes five) wheels in a ring shape and they tend to get rocks stuck in them...thus a Jeep is 4-5 times better than a ring...

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