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Old 05-21-2019, 11:05 AM
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Fixing JK Hardtop Scratches?

Have some light and deep scratches in my JK hardtop. Any suggestions of what to treat them with? I did see there is a Mopar hardtop paint avail through Quadratec. Thanks!

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Have some light and deep scratches in my JK hardtop. Any suggestions of what to treat them with? I did see there is a Mopar hardtop paint avail through Quadratec. Thanks!

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When I had my hard top I had the same issue. I ordered the Mopar hard top paint and it was not even close to matching....

I was given an estimate from the dealer of $1400 to fix several minor scratches. You can see the touch up paint mismatch in the photo I posted in this thread.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/a...p-2331803.html

In the end I had it Line X'd for $450

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f314/n...l#post33954245

Live with it or Line X it in my opinion... The hard top touch up paint is a waste of time and money as it's not even close to matching.

Good luck.....
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When I had my hard top I had the same issue. I ordered the Mopar hard top paint and it was not even close to matching....

I was given an estimate from the dealer of $1400 to fix several minor scratches. You can see the touch up paint mismatch in the photo I posted in this thread.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/a...p-2331803.html

In the end I had it Line X'd for $450

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f314/n...l#post33954245

Live with it or Line X it in my opinion... The hard top touch up paint is a waste of time and money as it's not even close to matching.

Good luck.....
Couldn't agree more. How can the imbeciles not match the color in this day and age?
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So I bought this and the color matches fine.

https://www.quadratec.com/mopar/jeep...pray-paint-can

I broke the drip rail above the passenger rear door on my top hitting a tree. I sanded it and re-fiberglassed it then painted it.

Iíve never had anyone notice it after I painted it. Itís not perfect because I wasnít able to match the texture but the color is spot on.


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If you're talking about standard flat black tops, and not those with paint to match the body, Rustoleum semi-gloss black color is spot-on and the finish is pretty close. I also use it when I do rust-patrol on the undercarriage.
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I used the Mopar touch up paint to hide a scratch on my 17. Almost perfect match. Only way I could tell was because I knew where to look.


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I bought mine scratched, noticed only when removed the freedom panels.
Its inevitable if driving on any forest road.
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I used the Mopar touch up paint to hide a scratch on my 17. Almost perfect match. Only way I could tell was because I knew where to look.


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What's the code on yours? I bought mine from the dealer, and it's not close at all. And I'm talking about the black hardtop, not body color. Seriously maybe they gave me the wrong one. I bought some Mopar touch up for my Rhino at the same time and it matches very well, but the hardtop paint isn't even close.
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What's the code on yours? I bought mine from the dealer, and it's not close at all. And I'm talking about the black hardtop, not body color. Seriously maybe they gave me the wrong one. I bought some Mopar touch up for my Rhino at the same time and it matches very well, but the hardtop paint isn't even close.
Mine also purchased from Jeep dealer...

Here is how well it matched... LOL

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No one will see the top, only you will know that scratch is there JK anyway, im trying to figure out what to do about my roof.. I might be put a layer of vinyl up there? I live in socal.. the sun isnt too kind to black paint jobs.



I got my jeep rubi about a month ago.. and took it offroading twice in the mountains.. I got major brush scratches on passenger side.. i keep telling myself. "its a jeep.. its gonna get scratches in its natural environment" "you didnt get a jeep to look at it" but still i want to see if they will buff out :P, my poor baby.. just the sound of it too, i was like, that is gonna be a bad one..
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Mine also purchased from Jeep dealer...

Here is how well it matched... LOL

Yeah, I don't care about getting the scratches..............play you pay. I just want to be able to buy an OEM touch up paint that actually matches. The Mopar stuff I bought looks like some bonehead just grabbed something off the shelf at Walmart and painted it on the hardtop.
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Yeah, I don't care about getting the scratches..............play you pay. I just want to be able to buy an OEM touch up paint that actually matches. The Mopar stuff I bought looks like some bonehead just grabbed something off the shelf at Walmart and painted it on the hardtop.
Keep in mind even if the paint matches perfectly it will still be quite noticeable. The difference is the change in surface structure. This needs to be blended with a texture to match the original finish. Depending on how deep the gashes are it may need to be filled too.

The only really benefit to touch up here is to protect the damaged area from moisture and corrosion.

I believe AEV has a textured aerosol can. I've never used it but people say it works well.

Edit: Another issue is the gloss factor. If the level of matte is off, it will appear the color is off. This is caused by light refraction.
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Keep in mind even if the paint matches perfectly it will still be quite noticeable. The difference is the change in surface structure. This needs to be blended with a texture to match the original finish. Depending on how deep the gashes are it may need to be filled too.

The only really benefit to touch up here is to protect the damaged area from moisture and corrosion.

I believe AEV has a textured aerosol can. I've never used it but people say it works well.

Edit: Another issue is the gloss factor. If the level of matte is off, it will appear the color is off. This is caused by light refraction.
I understand what you're saying, and they shouldn't even offer a product that is labeled as touch up paint for the hardtop. They know what the gloss of the factory hardtop is. Don't sell a touch up product if it doesn't match the tone and texture of what you're trying to touch up. And I'm not sure what type of corrosion you've experienced on SMC fiberglass.
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I understand what you're saying, and they shouldn't even offer a product that is labeled as touch up paint for the hardtop. They know what the gloss of the factory hardtop is. Don't sell a touch up product if it doesn't match the tone and texture of what you're trying to touch up. And I'm not sure what type of corrosion you've experienced on SMC fiberglass.
There's SMC (Sheet Molded Compound) and there's Fiberglass. No such thing as SMC Fiberglass but it's commonly mistaken for the same material do to their similarities. Both materials can be corroded (Verb: destroy or damage (metal, stone, or other materials) slowly by chemical action) by various types of exposure.

I think Mopar should get better matching touch up for sure, but at the end of the day a perfect touch up will only be achieved by a skilled hand.
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There's SMC (Sheet Molded Compound) and there's Fiberglass. No such thing as SMC Fiberglass but it's commonly mistaken for the same material do to their similarities. Both materials can be corroded (Verb: destroy or damage (metal, stone, or other materials) slowly by chemical action) by various types of exposure.

I think Mopar should get better matching touch up for sure, but at the end of the day a perfect touch up will only be achieved by a skilled hand.


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Sheet molding compound (SMC) resin is a fiberglass-based compression molding that is used in applications that require high strength. SMC is comprised of several materials including fiberglass, polymer resin, release agents and thickeners.


Corrosion resistant SMC has been around since at least 2008.

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Run away as fast as you can from that Mopar hardtop paint from Quadratec. That stuff is garbage. The person or people who mixed mine, must have been color blind and done on a Friday.
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Mine also purchased from Jeep dealer...

Here is how well it matched... LOL

That shade looks identical to the crap that I got.
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Corrosion resistant SMC has been around since at least 2008.
I'm not sure your point here. That there's resin that's used on SMC and fiberglass? I never said it's not corrosion resistant. All modern composites are. You're making it seem like its corrosion proof. If you'd prefer to leave whatever substrate you have on your vehicle exposed then go for it. I'd rather have a subpar touch up protecting it.

So if your point is there's no cause for concern in protecting the exposed SMC on a hard hardtop, then ok. Personally, I'd slap some touch up on it to be safe even if it didn't look great. The real concern isn't even the substrate in this case. These hard tops are notorious for bubbling and pealing where chips and scratches have occurred when left open to exposure.

My main point is that perfect touch up is very difficult to achieve especially when the damage is significant. The touch up job pictured here would look bad even if the shade, texture and gloss all matched perfectly.

Mopar touch up paint is made by Duplicolor and I'm not a fan of their touch up paint. I've had much better luck with other suppliers, not only in color match but in overall quality.
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There's SMC (Sheet Molded Compound) and there's Fiberglass. No such thing as SMC Fiberglass but it's commonly mistaken for the same material do to their similarities. Both materials can be corroded (Verb: destroy or damage (metal, stone, or other materials) slowly by chemical action) by various types of exposure.

I think Mopar should get better matching touch up for sure, but at the end of the day a perfect touch up will only be achieved by a skilled hand.
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I'm not sure your point here. That there's resin that's used on SMC and fiberglass? I never said it's not corrosion resistant. All modern composites are. You're making it seem like its corrosion proof. If you'd prefer to leave whatever substrate you have on your vehicle exposed then go for it. I'd rather have a subpar touch up protecting it.

So if your point is there's no cause for concern in protecting the exposed SMC on a hard hardtop, then ok. Personally, I'd slap some touch up on it to be safe even if it didn't look great. The real concern isn't even the substrate in this case. These hard tops are notorious for bubbling and pealing where chips and scratches have occurred when left open to exposure.

My main point is that perfect touch up is very difficult to achieve especially when the damage is significant. The touch up job pictured here would look bad even if the shade, texture and gloss all matched perfectly.

Mopar touch up paint is made by Duplicolor and I'm not a fan of their touch up paint. I've had much better luck with other suppliers, not only in color match but in overall quality.
Pick a point, and stick with it. You are preaching as if you are some expert in these materials, and when confronted with facts that dispute what you said previously, you change the subject and try to say you don't understand my point. SMC fiberglass is a real thing, and there have been corrosion resistant types of it manufactured for some time. The topic at hand is touch up paint. You decided to talk about materials of construction, make bold statements as if you know something about those materials, and then backpedal when information is presented that contradicts your earlier statements.
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Thanks for everyone's feedback. Lots of choices and things to avoid. I did see this video on a Mopar Hardtop Touch Up Pen. Standard black top, not painted. Anyone tried this?


It includes a gloss coat application as part of the pen.

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Thanks for everyone's feedback. Lots of choices and things to avoid. I did see this video on a Mopar Hardtop Touch Up Pen. Standard black top, not painted. Anyone tried this?


It includes a gloss coat application as part of the pen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wxxq-GnhK4
Thats what I had and it's garbage..... See the image I previously posted...

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