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Old 09-18-2019, 10:52 AM   #31
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I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this, as a result of this thread.

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After owning a variety of compressors (both portable and on-board) I've learned that my happiness with using them is directly tied to two things:

1. Duty Cycle
2. CFM rating

The item we're discussing doesn't list either of these specs in its description, nor is it addressed in any questions that I can see.

For comparison:

This very popular $70 VLAIR unit is rated at 1.47 CFM (no load) and has a 45% duty cycle @ 25 minutes (meaning it can run for 25 minutes then has to cool for 35 minutes)

The $300 ARB CKMA12 is rated at 3.08 CFM (no load) (double that of the VLAIR unit) and has a 50% duty cycle @ 30 minutes (you can run it for 30 minutes then it needs to cool for 30 minutes).

And finally, the "winner" on paper is the ~$150 Smittybilt 2781, which is rated at 5.65 cfm (nearly quadruple that of the VLAIR unit) and a 50% duty cycle of 40 minutes.

I can tell you from personal experience that I find anything with less performance than the ARB to be painful to use and will cause me to not want to air down my tires unless I'll be off road for days at a time.

I hate to yuck your yum (as my kids like to say) but until we see specs on that $30 Amazon unit, its hard to say whether it is suitable for use in a Jeep for airing back up 4 35" tires from 10 psi up to 30 psi.
I purchased the Viair unit noted here last week and used it this past weekend. I took each tire (255/70r18) down to 20 and then back up to 35 at the end of the day. The compressor worked very well (to me). I wouldn’t depend on it if I was doing this every other day, but it seems good for what I need. I like that the Viair connects to the battery as there’s a lot of juice being pulled for a while. I may add a quick connect cable to the battery and to the inflator to make it even easier.

I have a very popular Slime inflator as a backup as well. It works ok for a tire here and there but I’d never trust it for more than two without a long wait.
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And my newest EDC. Liking this little Boker. Sorry OP.
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Beautiful! Reminds me of a custom boot knife my dad got from a knifemaker named W.D. Heath. It went missing many years ago and I kick myself for losing it because it was something to remember my dad by.
You're close enough to GA to come down and camp with us ---- Dave is x-Navy, has an extermination business, but makes knives on the side for fun/money. He usually brings an assortment with him.
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As another note:

There were seven Jeeps in my recent ride. One had 40” beadlocks and runs at 10 all the time. Another had 37” and ran at 25. One stock Rubicon has the next smaller Viair, one other modifies Jk had the next size up with a trigger handle with a built in gauge. The others had CO2 tanks and put all the compressors to shame.
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CO2 tanks are a luxury that's addictive. One of my buddies had one in his XJ and it was the sweetest of sweetnesses to air back up with it.
instant inflation


The place we usually go has a barn with a full sized compressor. poof, done
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I have a very popular Slime inflator as a backup as well. It works ok for a tire here and there but I’d never trust it for more than two without a long wait.
I don't have first hand experience with the fix-a-flat type products so this might be fake news. But, I have read on the MB forums that some will ruin the TPMS sensor. And some tire shops will not work on tires that have been shot up with the stuff. - Apparently the stuff needs to be cleaned out with around 24 hours. Think it would be better/safer to carry a plug kit.
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I don't have first hand experience with the fix-a-flats, but I have read on the MB forums that some will ruin the TPMS sensor. And some tire shops will not work on tires that have been shot up with the stuff. - Apparently the stuff needs to be cleaned out with around 24 hours. Think it would be better/safer to carry a plug kit.
I think the inflator he is referring to is a compressor badged as a Slime brand compressor. I have one, it is a compressor in a fancy (but cheap) case. It is good enough for stock sized tires, it could air all for 32" tires up from 12 or 14 psi to 35 psi. But when we went to larger tires it became a chore and sometimes would trip out before done. Then you have to wait for it to cool down.
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As another note:

There were seven Jeeps in my recent ride. One had 40 beadlocks and runs at 10 all the time. Another had 37 and ran at 25. One stock Rubicon has the next smaller Viair, one other modifies Jk had the next size up with a trigger handle with a built in gauge. The others had CO2 tanks and put all the compressors to shame.
No fair, using CO2 is cheating.




LOL, just kidding. I just got my regulator, high pressure hoses, fittings, etc in the mail. Going to get my tank/valve Friday.
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I think the inflator he is referring to is a compressor badged as a Slime brand compressor. I have one, it is a compressor in a fancy (but cheap) case. It is good enough for stock sized tires, it could air all for 32" tires up from 12 or 14 psi to 35 psi. But when we went to larger tires it became a chore and sometimes would trip out before done. Then you have to wait for it to cool down.
I just burned out a Slime compressor last week after using it for about 3 years for the occasional low tire or tire waiting to have a patch and plug done. It tripped out my 12V ACC on the dash without burning the fuse out so it's dead until I figure out wth happened. The compressor in the OP replaced the Slime and it's for daily driving needs only AND it stows perfectly in its case under the center of the rear seat in the JKU :-)
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I don't think the OP is using it to air up after airing down. He seems focused on airing from 25 psi to 35 psi or so. That says to me it is more about airing up a low tire pressure in street use. Not off road use like airing up all four 35" tires from 12 psi to 30 psi. That he is worried about airing up to 35 psi makes me think he has stock or near stock size tires.
And his post count is low, so he is new here and doesn't know the level of knowledge and seriousness some of you have.
Bingo! I'm rolling on 33" Nitto Terra Grappler tires on Fuel wheels, no lift yet, so no O/R yet. Member here for a couple years but driving my 3rd Wrangler since 2001 - a '98 TJ Sahara 4-speed that I bought for 10.5K and sold 9 years later for 8.5K in excellent condition and 108K on the odometer. The next one, a 2009 JK was T-boned by a Corolla that slammed on the brakes and nosed under my running board which rolled me over the front of a new Caddy that was just waiting to cross an intersection. The passenger side I was hit on still had a perfectly working door afterwards with key fob and opening/closing. Insurance estimated over 25K in damage and totaled it - flares were tore up, a couple windows shattered including the windshield I tried to kick out while it was laying on the driver's side, top was scuffed up pretty badly (EMT took me out of the Freedom Top ;-) but didn't look too bad for what happened and I was surprised it was totaled. So then the 2014 JKU 6-Speed which I enjoy the hell out of and may be my last set of wheels.

Aside from just hijacking my own post, you're correct, I'm just posting in good faith about a pump for daily street driving, as needed... AND - it fits like a glove in its case under the rear seats, (if they're not folded down) :-)
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Wow. I guess they're taking that "#1 best seller" crap pretty seriously. I think I'll send them a complaint that I'm referring people to their product only to find price gouging going on. Smh... sorry.
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While I personally don't even think the unit in the OP is suitable for street use, I think it was presented with the best of intentions.
Best of intentions.
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Okay, I know this doesn't rise to the occasion for some of you either but you can't deny it's cool af... and beats the crap out of the one I just bought lol

https://www.amazon.com/Air-Armor-M24...omotive&sr=1-5
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I think I'm going to pull the trigger on this, as a result of this thread.
Okay, screw it - I'm with RhinoSportJKU. I'm gonna pay my penance, give the damned Yome to my girlfriend for her Cherokee and get the SmittyBilt so I'll regain my self-respect and spare myself all of this indignity forevermore.

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I'm cracking up looking at Amazon...
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Metal name: metal double cylinder pump
Product material: metal, copper winding
Pumping speed: 1 minute to cheer quickly
Hose length: about 5 meters
Rated voltage: 12-13.8V
Product weight: about 7KG
Wire length: about 2.5 meters
Product size: 335X140X190MM
Air pressure: 150-200 PSI
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They may need to fire their ad agency in Singapore lol
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Wow. I guess they're taking that "#1 best seller" crap pretty seriously. I think I'll send them a complaint that I'm referring people to their product only to find price gouging going on. Smh... sorry.
Nah, don't go there. These sellers typically use algorithms based on supply and demand to automatically / programmatically change prices. The increased price is likely the result of the people being referred to the product and buying it, not to take advantage of them.
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It's from all of us looking at it, but now it's not their #1 best seller because of all the hits but no sales.
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Okay, I know this doesn't rise to the occasion for some of you either but you can't deny it's cool af... and beats the crap out of the one I just bought lol

https://www.amazon.com/Air-Armor-M24...omotive&sr=1-5
LOL, That's the one I have. Absolutely got it for the cool factor. I didn't realize it was so slow for airing back up after offroading. However, the duty cycle is impressive and it's always filled all 4 of my 35x13.5x15 tires w/out overheating. I'm keeping it, because it's dead sexy and I need a backup for the CO2 system I'm building.

Plus, you can't go wrong with this kind of advertising
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? It's got 84% 4 stars or better. People complain only that the preset to cut off at a desired PSI has had issues but the pump works fine. Use a tire gauge or on a JK, your TP monitor on the dash. Also, as I mentioned in the OP, the seller/manufacturer emailed me a couple days after purchase asking me to contact them if I have any issues, so this tells me they stand behind their product, as reviewers have also stated. I'd probably still buy it at $39.99 since the $19.99 Slime pump from AutoZone died and fried my 12V ACC outlet on the dash, and the 20A fuse is fine. Now the dash has to come apart to replace that module... smh.
Most of those reviews appear to be fake.


Fakespot gave its listing and reviews a D rating.

https://www.fakespot.com/product/yom...er-inflatables

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That Air pump is now at $42.99 as of today. 9/18/19

Here's its pricing history for the past 3 months. It started out at $52. It was at $29.99 from 9/9 to 9/17. The price is currently climbing back to the original $52. So not quite a $29.99 air pump. More likely a $50 air pump that they offered a reduce price on for a week.

I like that feature of setting it at a preset prressire level and the pump turns off when it reaches it. Let us know how well that feature works.


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Also the reviews for that air pump are suspect according to Fakespot Review Analyzer. Fakespot Adjusted Review Rating puts it at 2 star.


A "D" grade typically lets you know the reviews can't really be trusted.
https://www.fakespot.com/product/yom...er-inflatables

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I like that feature of setting it at a preset prressire level and the pump turns off when it reaches it. Let us know how well that feature works.
I agree. I had a Costco "emergency" air compressor that had this feature and it was very handy around the house. I've looked into trying to replace the pressure cutoff switch on my onboard ARB compressor with one that is adjustable, but all the ones I've been able to find have no hysteresis and don't allow for separate "on" and "off" pressure adjustments.

The stock one kicks in below 90 PSI and stops at 150 PSI, IIRC. It would be really nice to set it to shut off at 30 psi while airing back up because I use a clip-on style chuck.
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I've looked into trying to replace the pressure cutoff switch on my onboard ARB compressor with one that is adjustable, but all the ones I've been able to find have no hysteresis and don't allow for separate "on" and "off" pressure adjustments.
Yes, I wish there was some type of adjustable switch or gauge that could be added to 12V air compressors. I thought about designing my own, but it seemed like more effort than I was willing to invest. My original thought was that it would work similar as a circuit breaker, since as the tire pressure goes up, then so should the current draw but as you mention, then there's the hysteresis to consider as well since I'm sure there's a large current spike when 1st turning on the pump that would need to be taken into consideration as well.

Now if you find something like that, which works reliably then that is something I would definitely be interested in.

Another thing I've been considering. I got a set of programmable timers for my dash cam setup. They keep my dash cams running for a duration of time after I've parked and then turn them off to avoid killing the battery. I've been thinking another good use for those programmable timers may be powering my air compressor. I timed how long it takes to fill one tire with my compressor from 13psi to 35psi (approx. 2min). I've been thinking about getting one of these programmable timers, where I could program the timer to cut the power to the pump after 2 minutes, then the time can be fine tuned if needed.


Programmable Timers.

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LOL, That's the one I have. Absolutely got it for the cool factor. I didn't realize it was so slow for airing back up after offroading. However, the duty cycle is impressive and it's always filled all 4 of my 35x13.5x15 tires w/out overheating. I'm keeping it, because it's dead sexy and I need a backup for the CO2 system I'm building.

Plus, you can't go wrong with this kind of advertising
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Someone answered my question on Amazon like so:

Question: What is the duty cycle and cfm rating for this pump? Wrangler drivers really would like to know.

Answer: The com for this unit is 2.11 with a max duty time of 5 minutes, although I know that I have run it for much more.

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Here’s a very low cost alternative that would work for low-duty use because, as was mentioned above, not everyone needs to air up four big off road tires.
These are $15 for new OEM Mazda kits, complete with compressor and sealant. At $15, might be worth getting one to keep in each of my vehicles that don’t already have something similar. At that price, they are disposable.
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I agree. I had a Costco "emergency" air compressor that had this feature and it was very handy around the house. I've looked into trying to replace the pressure cutoff switch on my onboard ARB compressor with one that is adjustable, but all the ones I've been able to find have no hysteresis and don't allow for separate "on" and "off" pressure adjustments.

The stock one kicks in below 90 PSI and stops at 150 PSI, IIRC. It would be really nice to set it to shut off at 30 psi while airing back up because I use a clip-on style chuck.
I wonder how it would act if you put a secondary regulator valve between the onboard compressor air outlet and your tires set to say 30psi??

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