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Old 12-13-2019, 05:40 PM
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I just ordered the Mopar 2” for my 2018 JKU.

I need to order some geo brackets because I am not using the cam bolts.

Because I am in the rust belt, would Rancho or AEV be the better choice?

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I just ordered the Mopar 2” for my 2018 JKU.

I need to order some geo brackets because I am not using the cam bolts.

Because I am in the rust belt, would Rancho or AEV be the better choice?
Rancho or JKS will always be the better choice. But you should use Fluid Film on your axles and control arms, etc no matter which you choose.

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Can't speak for AEV, but put Rancho geos on with 2.5 RE lift I did 2 weeks ago, and they put caster at 4.3. Ride is excellent. It helps to have a 3rd friend to move axle and align control arms. It's never as easy as the videos show.
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Thank you @Pressurized
I ordered the Ranchos from Quadratec.
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I ordered the Ranchos from Quadratec.
Good choice, those are the best in my opinion due to their welded and boxed design.
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Have had the Rancho's for over 2 years, have banged them on rocks a few times and have held up very well. Easy to install and steering is fine.
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I have the Mopar 2" lift on my 2017 JKUR and used the Rancho brackets because I felt they were a better option than the cam bolts. Some will say they hang lower but this was not an issue with me. The Jeep rides and steers perfectly.
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I have the ranchos as well, good product.
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I used the AEV's for a time during my transition and they worked just fine but it doesn't matter which brand you choose you're dealing with a second rate cure. If you ever switch to all adjustable arms you'll understand what I mean.
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Are these absolutely necessary with the 2” Mopar lift?
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Are these absolutely necessary with the 2” Mopar lift?
You need to adjust the caster somehow. So, it's cam bolts, correction brackets or control arms.
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Are these absolutely necessary with the 2” Mopar lift?
Any time you lift your caster automatically rolls negative so you need something to roll it back positive in order to maintain proper handling. Is it necessary? Depends on what kind of poor handling you can put up with and how willing you are to drive a road hazard. Anything 4 degrees or lower borders on unsafe handling. Mine runs just short of 5 1/2* and has excellent handling and off-road manners. At 4 1/2* it was a squirrel to drive with 37's.
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Any time you lift your caster automatically rolls negative so you need something to roll it back positive in order to maintain proper handling. Is it necessary? Depends on what kind of poor handling you can put up with and how willing you are to drive a road hazard. Anything 4 degrees or lower borders on unsafe handling. Mine runs just short of 5 1/2* and has excellent handling and off-road manners. At 4 1/2* it was a squirrel to drive with 37's.
I’m trying to figure why so much is needed for the 2” Mopar when a 2” leveling kit needs almost nothing.
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The MOPAR lift is taller than the stated height by about an inch or so.



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I’m trying to figure why so much is needed for the 2” Mopar when a 2” leveling kit needs almost nothing.
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I’m trying to figure why so much is needed for the 2” Mopar when a 2” leveling kit needs almost nothing.
For starters the 2" Mopar lift is really more of a typical 2.5" spring lift, which means it tends to actually deliver 3" or more of lift. For a two door it seems the emphasis is on more.
Also, even with a 2" spacer lift sometimes you need a little caster correction.
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I’m trying to figure why so much is needed for the 2” Mopar when a 2” leveling kit needs almost nothing.
As mentioned above, the Mopar isn't a 2" lift... It includes cam washers to correct caster in the kit. They SUCK. Choose either geo brackets or front lower control arms to correct caster. The Rancho geo brackets are an excellent choice for a DD and weekend trail rider. Control arms are better for more serious off road use.
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I will say Rancho Geo's are one piece. It looks like AEV are two piece. We have love are Ranchos. You should do one though. It's minor at this height but does make a difference. As stated by others, the Mopar gives a higher actual lift than stated, as did our RE 2.5. We actually came out at 3-3.25 with aftermarket heavy front bumper. Either should work well for you if you're not banging every under component on rocks. Though, I've seen pics of Ranchos that have been beaten all out, and seem to be ok. They're not mine, so I wouldn't know for sure.
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Added the rancho geo brackets, once did a alignment before them and had caster 2.9. Didn't think I needed them until i installed them. Made hell of a difference. The road bumps no longer take my steering wheel and its just a smoother rode overall
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Are these absolutely necessary with the 2” Mopar lift?
I did mine without about a month ago, mainly because I ended up with the 2 inch Rancho kit free from a friend without the geo brackets. The steering definitely changes and doesn’t track as well. Can I drive it as my dd yes but it takes more steering corrections. I plan to get the brackets and install them right after the holidays. Just put them on my Christmas list last week 🙂.
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I've had the AEV's on a JK, and two JKUWW's since 2015.
No problems at all.
They all do the same thing.
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The MOPAR lift is taller than the stated height by about an inch or so.
I also see people saying that they needed geo brackets on your 2” lift, which is an actual 2”
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If you install the AEV geo brackets with the 2" Mopar lift, what do you do with the cam bolts?
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If you install the AEV geo brackets with the 2" Mopar lift, what do you do with the cam bolts?
If you installed cam bolts you can get cam bolt eliminators, which are basically fancy shaped washers that lock the cam adjustment in the original spot. You can even weld the fancy washers in place for a more permanent fix.
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Just slightly taller than 2" , but each Jeep is a tad different. A lot do not need them with our system, but some do like them.



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