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Old 10-12-2018, 06:02 PM
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Grab bars: Bartact VS Grabars

I currently have the Bartact grab bars. I really like them, but have just discovered the Grabars.

So would it be worth replacing my Bartact’s with Grabars? Am I missing out? Or do I have the better ones already?

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I have both. I never use the bartact and almost always use the grabar to hoist myself into the drivers seat. My passengers use both, sometimes at the same time. Glad I have both but if I had to choose I’d get the grabars.
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If I'm correct the Bartact are soft handles like the Jeep ones.

I installed Grabars to make it easier for my wife to get in
and now find I like them more over the soft (flexible) type.
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I might be mistaken on this, but I think Wild Boar handles are the same as Grabbars. I have the Wild Boar handles and I absolutely hate them. They basically block the sun visor from going down. People have mentioned that you can bend the handles around to make it work but I haven’t found this to be true. Grab handles are such a simportant system that it what you have works, just keep it.
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I have used the same set of grabars on 4 different jeeps and love them. I have no issues with my sun visors.
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I currently have the Bartact grab bars. I really like them, but have just discovered the Grabars.

So would it be worth replacing my Bartact’s with Grabars? Am I missing out? Or do I have the better ones already?
I've been thinking about picking up some grab bars but I've been debating whether or not they would be useful. Also is it worth paying the premium for Grabars over other cheaper options.
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I've been thinking about picking up some grab bars but I've been debating whether or not they would be useful. Also is it worth paying the premium for Grabars over other cheaper options.
As a machinist, I’ll always pay more for USA made parts.
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Ongoing debate whether some grab-bar brands bolt-on easily or lots of #@* to line up the holes. Work the bolts in gradually before final tightening for best results. Once you get them on they are handy.
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Have both and only use the bar handles when doors are off for someplace to support my arm. the Grabbar location provides better physics for getting into the jeep. more of a triangular pivot point than veritcal hoist location (if that makes any sense). My left shoulder is always sore and it seems easier (IMO) to use the grabbar.
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Ongoing debate whether some grab-bar brands bolt-on easily or lots of #@* to line up the holes. Work the bolts in gradually before final tightening for best results. Once you get them on they are handy.
I installed a set of Wild Boars last weekend and found that if you use a bit of anti-seize on the bolts and run them in and out without the handles first then the install is a piece of cake. It gives you a feel for the angle each needs to be installed at. First run at it without doing this was a frustrating exercise.

Maybe the design has been updated as I have no interference with the sun visors. The handles angle out towards the door a bit allowing pretty much full range on both visors.
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I might be mistaken on this, but I think Wild Boar handles are the same as Grabbars. I have the Wild Boar handles and I absolutely hate them. They basically block the sun visor from going down. People have mentioned that you can bend the handles around to make it work but I haven’t found this to be true. Grab handles are such a simportant system that it what you have works, just keep it.
I have the Wild Boar grab bars and I like them a lot. They're very solid. I used them for getting in the Jeep. It beats grabbing the steering wheel like I used to do. My sun visors come down just fine with no interference at all. If I swing the sun visor around to my driver's side window, the grab bars keep me from pushing the visors all the way out to the window though. The best I can do is to let them hang vertically along my driver's side window...

... which I have no problem with because they still block the sun.
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I just got the below grab bars from Amazon.
A little tricky on the install. Agree with threading bolts in by themselves with something on them. I used lithium grease. Dropped factory bolt behind the trim. Both sides. Unbelievable. SMH. Otherwise wish I installed sooner. Seems like a natural movement getting in now.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I spent some time pouring through the forums to find the best bars. Also talked to some locals at Jeep meets. There a few solid American made brands but the GraBars seemed like the safest “Only-Do-It-Once” option for me. Skinned a few knuckles putting then on but they are so solid you’ll think they are welded to the frame. Zero regrets. I’d buy them again.
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The wild boar one's are really sturdy. It was a little tricky getting all the bolts started but not too bad. When you remove the factory bolts, stuff a rag down in the A pillar cover so the bolt doesn't fall down there.

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Guess I'll be the dissenting opinion, I've had Grabbars and the Bartact and prefer the Bartac.

If you want a higher quality hard handle check out Carolina Metal Masters, I have this one:
https://www.carolinametalmasters.com/

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I went with GraBars. Very pleased with them. Use them all the time getting in and out.
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Guess I'll be the dissenting opinion, I've had Grabbars and the Bartact and prefer the Bartac.

If you want a higher quality hard handle check out Carolina Metal Masters, I have this one:
https://www.carolinametalmasters.com/

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I think I’m leaning towards just keeping the Bartact’s.
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Right on their website, it says not able to bring down the visors all the way without first extending the visor.

https://grabarsusa.com/jeep-grabars-...-Steel-Handles

This would be fine unless you have an sPOD switch system that gets in the way.
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If you want a higher quality hard handle check out Carolina Metal Masters
Definitely higher quality handles from CMM but if installed as pictured the ball-mounts will block some visor adjustment towards the windshield. I deleted the ball-mount during installation with a stainless knurled bolt from Lowes. The visor just needed a bit of tweaking whenever the visor needed full adjustment. Posted the exact stainless knurled bolt on the CMM thread.
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The wild boar one's are really sturdy. It was a little tricky getting all the bolts started but not too bad. When you remove the factory bolts, stuff a rag down in the A pillar cover so the bolt doesn't fall down there.

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These look exactly like my GraBars. They are either the same company or serious copycats.
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Guess I'll be the dissenting opinion, I've had Grabbars and the Bartact and prefer the Bartac.



If you want a higher quality hard handle check out Carolina Metal Masters, I have this one:

https://www.carolinametalmasters.com/



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I looked hard at these. Good engineering. But I liked the open post of the GraBars over this closed loop handle. If you are wearing heavy gloves (cold weather) I figured it would be harder to thread the needle just to hop in and go.
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The wild boar one's are really sturdy. It was a little tricky getting all the bolts started but not too bad. When you remove the factory bolts, stuff a rag down in the A pillar cover so the bolt doesn't fall down there.

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I bought these exact same Wild Boar ones...I believe they were sold as "Opar". Dang things are solid as a rock and my passengers were absolutely grateful they no longer had to grab the fabric strap loose handles while getting in the Jeep.
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Pretty sure they're knockoffs. $26 on Amazon.
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I installs all 4 GraBars on JKU mainly for my kids and the work great! I have no issue with the visors hitting them at all, the skim right by. The instructions said they may interfere with the visor depending on the angle of the factory bolts.. apparently they aren't uniform at at all.
GraBars are made close to me, so I chose to support a local business.. instead of saving $$
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I have a set of these:

https://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-gr...set-6503g.html

They compliment the interior a lot better in my opinion.
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I bought these POMAR ones from Amazon because they have the finger indentations and no embossed lettering.


https://www.amazon.com/POMAR-Handles.../dp/B01N4NSNHW


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I just picked up a set of 4 from cjponyparts. They are the Rugged Ridge brand. I honestly didn't know there were other brands of the same thing. Mine are very solid and I'm pretty happy with them.

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Another vote for the Amazon Wild Boar grab bars here. I got the fronts and rears for under $50.
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After reading this thread I ordered the Grabars. The Jeep came with the Jeep handles, but I think these will make it easier. Installed the front ones today, but waited a little late in the day and the mosquitoes were out in force when I finished, Should get the back ones in tomorrow.


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Looks like rough country has a new option,fronts show about $70 retail:




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