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Old 11-03-2015, 04:52 PM
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Hey there, relatively new here, but thought I'd start by giving a review of some headlights I just got from Maximum Jeep! I'm in no way affiliated, just saw a great deal I'd like to share!

To start off, Ive looked into headlights ever since I've bought my jeep, but couldn't justify spending anywhere from 400-1000 dollars for quality headlights. Don't get me wrong, I want what's best for my jeep, but lights are lights. They turn on and they work. I found Maximum Jeep long ago while looking for my light bar. Although I ended up buying an Eyourlife bar, I wish I hadn't after all the issues I had. I saw a review on the Maximum Jeep bar with good feedback, so I decided to give them a try.

On to my purchase. I paid 250 dollars total for what looks to be JW Speaker 8700s. This was free shipping and came nicely packaged. They include the anti flicker harness and a wiring diagram (if you really need it? It's plug and play). Taking the lights out of the box I was really impressed on how they looked. Very sturdy and looked like the real deal. The harnesses easily clip on to the lights and all that was left to do was get my old ones out!

Easy enough, I yanked my grill off and took out the old stock candles. Install was fast and they fit in perfectly. Put the grill on and I was done in 20 minutes. There's not much detail to go into other then they work great. They are a crisp white, and the high beam is extremely bright! They are a huge improvement, and for only 250 bucks I would definitely do it over again anyday.

Hope this helped! Any questions I'm happy to answer!

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I saw a pair on ebay (sold by Maximum Jeep) for $229. It has Halo ring (for daylight driving light and turn light). I've been hesitating. Glad to see your review.
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Bought from maximumjeep.com. Forgot to mention, customer service is fast and helpful. Very confident in the warranty provided
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I run their 50 inch, brackets, wiring, LED pods, grill, headlights and even have a 10A hood on the way from them. Love it all.
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Nice, good luck with them. What's there warrenttee? Let us know if any LED's go out or if condensation gets inside 1 of them.
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I think these are same ones as OP has for about $60 less for those interested. Good to have a review I may pick up a set.
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I think these are same ones as OP has for about $60 less for those interested. Good to have a review I may pick up a set.
^that link you provided is for only 1 headlight. Not 2. Also does not say it comes with anti flicker.
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On to my purchase. I paid 250 dollars total for what looks to be JW Speaker 8700s....

Hope this helped! Any questions I'm happy to answer!
But they're not JW Speaker 8700s. They're Chinese clones, not tested and assayed to meet our country's laws and safety protocols.

These companies are unethical, illegal, and immoral.
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But they're not JW Speaker 8700s. They're Chinese clones, not tested and assayed to meet our country's laws and safety protocols.

These companies are unethical, illegal, and immoral.
and should be Boycotted by ALL Jeepers .... Just like I support my local Mom and Pop Hardware store up the street even IF they are a little higher on price than the Big Box Stores. IF M&P go out of business I lose my choices as well as the convenience of a store 5 minutes away when I need a bolt. I get service from M&P as well.
IF they go the way of the Dinosaurs I then must drive 30 minutes to a warehouse store and listen to my crys for help echo Off the Walls of the Chinese Snow Blowers.
Service-Warranty-Dependability ...... Matter.

I'm sure this thread will now turn into something completely different but...
Buying Chinese knock-offs of the Real thing is just - Wrong.

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^that link you provided is for only 1 headlight. Not 2. Also does not say it comes with anti flicker.
It clearly says "pair" on the page, in a couple of places. However, they even list Chinese manufacture: "Place of Origin: Guangdong, China (Mainland)"
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and should be Boycotted by ALL Jeepers .... Just like I support my local Mom and Pop Hardware store up the street even IF they are a little higher on price than the Big Box Stores. IF M&P go out of business I lose my choices as well as the convenience of a store 5 minutes away when I need a bolt. I get service from M&P as well.
IF they go the way of the Dinosaurs I then must drive 30 minutes to a warehouse store and listen to my crys for help echo Off the Walls of the Chinese Snow Blowers.
Service-Warranty-Dependability ...... Matter.

I'm sure this thread will now turn into something completely different but...
Buying Chinese knock-offs of the Real thing is just - Wrong.

For those who have ever actually "made" anything or "own" a business - that concept is already understood.

Well said, in my town we have no walmart, costco, target etc.... and I like it that way and keep my spending as local as possible
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It clearly says "pair" on the page, in a couple of places. However, they even list Chinese manufacture: "Place of Origin: Guangdong, China (Mainland)"
I work in the field. I know the products. Would bet you you won't receive the pair, or the harness. They would lose money on that deal.
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Outside of the fact about legality, I think the individual needs to make these choice for themselves. Whether that be running non dot approved headlights or buying knockoffs. If the company, probably overseas, markets them under a different name I see no problem with that. I looked and didn't see a patent for the 8700 headlights but only looked at a few patent places. As for the dot approved, I have went down that path with previous vehicles and choose this time to do it right. I have ran HID's in stock housings before mainly because it was cheap and I didn't know any better. Still I think not being dot compliant doesn't automatically mean the light is going to be crap and blind on coming traffic. Like any product that is quality made and has a lot of research involved, that is mainly what we as consumers are paying for. I would be surprised if it costs more that $200 to make these headlights but the rest is put towards the research JW Speaker did to make these headlights what they are.
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I work in the field. I know the products. Would bet you you won't receive the pair, or the harness. They would lose money on that deal.
Well, I don't know how they would get around it when it's clearly stated on the page. I guess they could just not send you two and refuse to back up their website documentation, but that would be a business killer I would think.
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and should be Boycotted by ALL Jeepers .... Just like I support my local Mom and Pop Hardware store up the street even IF they are a little higher on price than the Big Box Stores. IF M&P go out of business I lose my choices as well as the convenience of a store 5 minutes away when I need a bolt. I get service from M&P as well. IF they go the way of the Dinosaurs I then must drive 30 minutes to a warehouse store and listen to my crys for help echo Off the Walls of the Chinese Snow Blowers. Service-Warranty-Dependability ...... Matter. I'm sure this thread will now turn into something completely different but... Buying Chinese knock-offs of the Real thing is just - Wrong. For those who have ever actually "made" anything or "own" a business - that concept is already understood.
Dude... I found a great deal and wanted to share it.

Jeepers will never boycott China.. 21% of your Jeep Wrangler is PRODUCED in China. Some of the highest quality companies that you look up to get parts from China. Warn for example uses Chinese parts in their remotes.. Because it is China, doesn't mean it's shit. They make products for cheap. If you have your pockets full enough to want to buy big brand then I don't know why you clicked on a thread labeled cheap mod... Some of us are more focused on the "what we get for the money we spend"
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Dude... I found a great deal and wanted to share it.

Jeepers will never boycott China.. 21% of your Jeep Wrangler is PRODUCED in China. Some of the highest quality companies that you look up to get parts from China. Warn for example uses Chinese parts in their remotes.. Because it is China, doesn't mean it's shit. They make products for cheap. If you have your pockets full enough to want to buy big brand then I don't know why you clicked on a thread labeled cheap mod... Some of us are more focused on the "what we get for the money we spend"
"Dude" your post indicates that you "missed" most if not all of what my point was so, Great that you wanted to "Share" - We can both let our Forum Contributions stand on their own merit and let those clicking on them make up their own minds. As for your educated prediction as to the behavior patterns of consumers or Jeepers or whatever - I may have slightly less interest in that than you have in mine.
Agree to disagree on the definition of "Great Deal" or whatever.
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"Dude" your post indicates that you "missed" most if not all of what my point was so, Great that you wanted to "Share" - We can both let our Forum Contributions stand on their own merit and let those clicking on them make up their own minds. As for your educated prediction as to the behavior patterns of consumers or Jeepers or whatever - I may have slightly less interest in that than you have in mine. Agree to disagree on the definition of "Great Deal" or whatever.
agree to disagree. Anyway, back to the purpose of this thread, if anyone has any questions about the lights I am more than happy to answer them! Happy customer!
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can we get some night time shots of the low and high beam pattern on the road?
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Wow. This escalated quickly...

I just had a couple questions about the lights:

1. How long have you had them installed so far?
2. Noticed anyone flashing you from oncoming traffic at all?

EDIT: By "flashing" I meant flashing their brights. Not show you their naughty bits.
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can we get some night time shots of the low and high beam pattern on the road?
If I can't post them tonight, I will post them tomorrow night!
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Wow. This escalated quickly... I just had a couple questions about the lights: 1. How long have you had them installed so far? 2. Noticed anyone flashing you from oncoming traffic at all? EDIT: By "flashing" I meant flashing their brights. Not show you their naughty bits.
That it did... I have had these lights in for about a week now, and I have had no issues with being flashed (lights or naughty bits). They are a huge improvement, but I wouldn't say anything big enough to cause annoyance to oncoming drivers.
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Jeepers will never boycott China...
Not asking for that.
Asking Jeepers to boycott products from manufacurers that steal a company's intellectual property and produce a sub-standard knock-off.
Asking Jeepers to boycott illegal and unsafe products.


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...Some of the highest quality companies that you look up to get parts from China. Warn for example uses Chinese parts in their remotes.. Because it is China, doesn't mean it's shit. They make products for cheap. ...
Yes.
My two customers have factories in China. And elsewhere.
Making products that they designed and own the rights to.
There's a big difference between "made in China" and "knocked off in China".
Jason told me that there were employees from Chinese lighting companies at SEMA taking pictures of JWS products on the morning they were unveiled for the first time.
Supporting such a company is un-American.
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That it did... I have had these lights in for about a week now, and I have had no issues with being flashed (lights or naughty bits). They are a huge improvement, but I wouldn't say anything big enough to cause annoyance to oncoming drivers.
Thanks for the review. Please post more pics when you get the chance.

Also, ignore the "Buy American" crowd... They are total JWS fanboys with lots of free time on their hands and obviously nothing better to do than hijack your thread.
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Thanks for the review. Please post more pics when you get the chance.

Also, ignore the "Buy American" crowd... They are total JWS fanboys with lots of free time on their hands and obviously nothing better to do than hijack your thread.
Ahhh yes and now the "Personal Attacks" start .... that is exactly what happens when the Facts are "inconvenient" and immediate gratification is disrupted by those nasty "old guys" that actually respect the Integrity of a Product or a Company.
Fairly obvious comments considering the source(s).

I am going to assume that the Op is truthfully not affiliated with the lights and/or the sourcing point and simply say, as a "new" member now being unessesarily "defended" by other "new" members - this is no attack. IF you read some of the Forum History You will see that "Lighting" in General is a Hotter than usual topic, add in to that mix a contribution by a new member purportedly just wanting to help yet seemingly uninformed on the subject matter - the thread is going to follow the path the last 50 threads on Chinese knock-off products/lights will.
No need for defense nor personal attacks.
That will only send the thread down a rabbit hole.
Commenting in a thread about the subject of the thread IS NOT a thread hi-jack even if it is seen as such by those simply wanting to satisfy their need/want for the subject product.
Legal lights made by reputable companies preferably but not required - supporting the WF community serves all of us.
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This juice ain't worth the squeeze - Have fun with your chinese knock-off lights guys.

I hope you actually make something with your own hands someday.... and have somebody copy it.

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