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Old 06-05-2013, 11:59 AM
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Hard Top w a Safari Top

Hi.....I am brand new to this or any forum. I am looking at getting my first wrangler this or next weekend. I am having difficulty figuring out how I am going to set my top configuration up.

The sunrises top seems like such a pain in the ass.....I was thinking of a hard top for work and remove it for the weekends and replace with a Bestop Cable style Safari top. My concern is that the cable style windshield insert won't mesh and fit with my hardtop.

Is there anyone with a similar configuration that can offer advice?

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I think you are referring to the Sunrider feature on the soft top.

I can tell you...you are probablly not going to want to swap your top every week.

Depending on where you live, park, and work...you may want just go with a hard top and use the Freedom panels.

Or just go with an OEM soft-top/Supertop NX or Trektop NX.

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Welcome to the forum man!

But it all depends on your style of play. What the weather is like where you live. And also maybe the crime rate in your area?

I use a hard top when it's cold but now that it's as hot as satan's *** hole here in Texas I have my Bestop Safari top on with the "no-drill" header on. Where I live there is little crime so I don't worry about anything being taken out of my Jeep and also here in Texas we don't know what rain is so I only need to worry about rain making my Jeep a pool about 90% of the time.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:15 PM
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I was considering just using the freedom panels as well....it is basically a bikini top in its own right....but I need a way to protect the back seat from storms
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I live in Florida .....it will rain 3-4 days out of the week during the summer
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I was considering just using the freedom panels as well....it is basically a bikini top in its own right....but I need a way to protect the back seat from storms
Freedom panels would be the way to go! But yea in the case of a storm and you can't get to your garage or something quick enough then a rear cover or "duster" would be your best bet. In my opinion if you are going to buy one, buy Bestop. I love all my Bestop products.
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You should probably give a bit more detail as to what you are looking at (2 door or 4 door) and where you are located.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:26 PM
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I live in Florida and I'm looking at a 2 door.
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Pull you carpet and then you won't care if it rains!!
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I'm in Florida and I use a soft top exclusively. The great thing is it's versatility. Topless for the spring and fall months, either sunrider or remove rear and side windows bikini-style for warmer winter days. Top up and A/C on for the brutal summer weekdays when it rains, then top back down for weekends. All of this can be done within minutes.

Taking a hard top on and off will get old quickly and removing freedom panels just isn't the same as topless. Even better is topless and doorless, and I can go from completely covered up to topless and doorless in less than 10 minutes if I'm in a hurry.

I can't think of a scenario where I wished I had a hard top. Maybe if I lived up north, but not in Florida where there are too many great topless days.

There are many days I can quickly drop the top when the weather is right and I see fellow Jeepers with their hard tops on looking at me enviously.
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By the way, if you live in Florida and own a Jeep, unless you never open it up, you will get wet occasionally. You just deal with it. You do become very attuned to the weather forecast, it's those sudden storms when there's only a 20% chance of rain that usually get me.

I bought Trek Armor seat covers that are waterproof and I'll be pulling the carpet and bedlining at some point. I've been pretty lucky though, in 3 years, I've only been really soaked a couple of times.
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It's a tough sell for the sunrises for me......those body color tops look really nice. I'm also looking at those leather trimmed seats. Wondering if I need to get covers for them for possible rain.
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If you just want a hard top the same color as the body for the looks, that's fine. Nothing wrong with the sunrider feature of an OEM soft top though. It just allows you to open up quickly, and more importantly, close it quickly if there's rain rather than opening the top completely. I can open and close my sunrider in a matter of seconds and I'm not worrying about storing freedom panels. I love leather seats but wouldn't own a Jeep with leather, but again, that's a matter of personal preference. Sounds like your use of a Jeep will be different than mine.
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If you want the hard top for looks, especially the painted tops, then go for it. It is, however, less convenient than a soft top is in the SE. I took my hard top off about 3 months ago(in Georgia), and have not missed it at all. The soft top is only slightly noisier, is infinitely easier to put down, and I like the looks of a soft top more. And the Sunrider portion is actually not a pain, but very nice. You can flip the sunrider back in seconds, exposing front and rear seats to the sun and wind. I use it almost daily for my ride home from work, where I don't feel like taking the back windows out to drop the top all the way.

The one clear advantage a hard top has, though, is theft prevention. You can unzip your way right into a Jeep with a soft top, I have not had a problem, but I could see where opportunistic thieves look for it.
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Yeah, you do need to be mindful about not leaving valuables in the Jeep with a soft top, and also getting an underseat locked storage box is handy for small items.
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Speaking of theft.....does anyone know anyone with positive or negative opinions on those truck boxes by Bestop. They basically lock and can only only be accessed through the back door
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There are definite positives and negatives to the soft-top vs hard-top debate.

With a soft-top....being that the window zippers are on the outside....your Wrangler is never really secure. Not to mention that fact that a pocket knife is a universal key anyway.

Also, getting into the rear cargo area is a much bigger hassle because of the window bar. And (while this may not apply to you in Florida as much) there is no rear window fluid/wiper or defroster.

On the flip side....riding around with the top down is the absolute bomb.

I don't know how back the sunrider goes on a 2 door (in relation to the freedom panels on the hard top), but on the 4 door the sunrider extends almost all the way back to the rear roll bar cross member, meaning that even the passangers have open sky above their heads.

Just make sure to lookin into lock boxes. I know there are issues with underseat lock boxes on new 2 door JK's, but you can look at trunk enclosures as well.

I have a Tuffy underat lockbox and a Tuffy rear trunk enclosure....so that gives me some peace of mind with my soft top.

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