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Old 05-14-2019, 04:12 PM
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Thoughts on these Halos? I understand that the halo part is the only LED part. Like the look, and need something very easy to install for a beginner.
https://www.extremeterrain.com/raxio...s-0718-jk.html

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I am a fan of halos and so where the people I wheeled with in the dank and dark PNW.

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If I was going to put money into headlights, I would buy something that is actually going to provide better lighting at night and not just something cosmetic. I've got no issue with halos (as long as they are white) and am actually a big fan of DRL's, but I would spend the money to get an actual LED headlight. Just my opinion though.

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Thoughts on these Halos? I understand that the halo part is the only LED part. Like the look, and need something very easy to install for a beginner.
https://www.extremeterrain.com/raxio...s-0718-jk.html
Headlights are important. You need them --- they're safety equipment. Halos can be functional if designed that way; listen to @dwtgolden and get a quality lamp, not a lamp-shaped toy.
I'm surprised that ET is selling those.

There are plenty of DRL options and plenty of quality headlamp options.
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Headlights are important. You need them --- they're safety equipment. Halos can be functional if designed that way; listen to @dwtgolden and get a quality lamp, not a lamp-shaped toy.
I'm surprised that ET is selling those.

There are plenty of DRL options and plenty of quality headlamp options.

What are some quality LEDs that are plug and play?
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What are some quality LEDs that are plug and play?
Best imho for anybody that gets wet snow: https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadrate...ep-wrangler-jk

Then: https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speak...ep-wrangler-jk

Then: https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speak...ht-wrangler-jk

These are okay and made by Peterson; might find the Petersons for less: https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speak...ht-wrangler-jk

Next would be the Trucklite/GE followed by @Quadratec older models:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/97109_0020.htm

I'd like to test the VixionX light and see what it really does. But I still like the JWS products since I know their lineage, materials, how well they hold up. I'm still running a prototype of their Evolution J1 for 5 years and it's doing just fine.

Real lights are tested and assayed to be compliant with FMVSS-108 per NHTSA regulations.
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Best imho for anybody that gets wet snow: https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadrate...ep-wrangler-jk

Then: https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speak...ep-wrangler-jk

Then: https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speak...ht-wrangler-jk

These are okay and made by Peterson; might find the Petersons for less: https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speak...ht-wrangler-jk

Next would be the Trucklite/GE followed by @Quadratec older models:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/97109_0020.htm

I'd like to test the VixionX light and see what it really does. But I still like the JWS products since I know their lineage, materials, how well they hold up. I'm still running a prototype of their Evolution J1 for 5 years and it's doing just fine.

Real lights are tested and assayed to be compliant with FMVSS-108 per NHTSA regulations.
Come on out Bill you can test mine.
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What are some quality LEDs that are plug and play?

Hey there,

We offer plenty of plug and play LED headlight kits.

Here are all of the LED headlights that we offer: https://www.quadratec.com/categories/lighting_lenses_bulbs/headlights/led-headlights

Just be sure to choose your Jeep from the drop down menu.

I currently have the Quadratec Stealth LED headlights in both my TJ and in my JK. I also have the LED fog lights in my JK as well, I love them!

Quadratec LED headlight with LED fog light combo, this comes with the white Q or the Stealth blacked out version in the photo a little lower:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/97109_0020.htm




Or just the LED Headlights:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/gen-II-led-headlights-07-17-jeep-wrangler-jk



If you live in the colder areas we also have a Heated LED projector headlight: :

https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/heated-led-projector-beam-headlamps-jeep-wrangler-jk




I also recommend the JW speaker LED headlights:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speaker/8700-evolution-j2-series-led-headlight-wrangler-jk



Pro Comp LED:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/pro-comp-lighting/explorer-7-led-headlamp-pair-07-17-jeep-wrangler-jk



We also offer a forum discount for forum members.


For a discounted quote you can go about it 2 ways:

1) PM me back with your first & last name, address, zip and the part numbers you would like to order. I'll reply back with a discounted quote if applicable. This takes 1-2 business days (or less) on average depending on PM volume.

2) Call my sales line at 1-800-745-2348. Tell them you're a Forum user and would like to place an order with your Forum discount. Their hours are Mon-Thurs 8 am-10 pm, Friday 8 am-9 pm, Saturday 9 am-5 pm.

Whichever you prefer works for us.

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Or next time I am in GA, sister in law lives there.
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Hey there,

We offer plenty of plug and play LED headlight kits.

Here are all of the LED headlights that we offer: https://www.quadratec.com/categories/lighting_lenses_bulbs/headlights/led-headlights

Just be sure to choose your Jeep from the drop down menu.

I currently have the Quadratec Stealth LED headlights in both my TJ and in my JK. I also have the LED fog lights in my JK as well, I love them!

Quadratec LED headlight with LED fog light combo, this comes with the white Q or the Stealth blacked out version in the photo a little lower:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/97109_0020.htm




Or just the LED Headlights:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/gen-II-led-headlights-07-17-jeep-wrangler-jk



If you live in the colder areas we also have a Heated LED projector headlight: :

https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/heated-led-projector-beam-headlamps-jeep-wrangler-jk




I also recommend the JW speaker LED headlights:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speaker/8700-evolution-j2-series-led-headlight-wrangler-jk



Pro Comp LED:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/pro-comp-lighting/explorer-7-led-headlamp-pair-07-17-jeep-wrangler-jk



We also offer a forum discount for forum members.


For a discounted quote you can go about it 2 ways:

1) PM me back with your first & last name, address, zip and the part numbers you would like to order. I'll reply back with a discounted quote if applicable. This takes 1-2 business days (or less) on average depending on PM volume.

2) Call my sales line at 1-800-745-2348. Tell them you're a Forum user and would like to place an order with your Forum discount. Their hours are Mon-Thurs 8 am-10 pm, Friday 8 am-9 pm, Saturday 9 am-5 pm.

Whichever you prefer works for us.

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Ive been going back and forth on what headlights I want... I was pretty sure I was going for the pro comp, but it seems people either love them or hate them.

Now I’m torn between the pro comps and the quadratec. (Or something else in that price range)

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Wow, I had no idea how expensive some of these LED's can be. That being said I don't even get delivery of my new Jeep until tomorrow and I am already looking at mods! lol.
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Ive been going back and forth on what headlights I want... I was pretty sure I was going for the pro comp, but it seems people either love them or hate them.

Now I’m torn between the pro comps and the quadratec. (Or something else in that price range)

Anyone want to share thoughts?
The @Quadratec branded items would be a more hassle-free ownership experience imho
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Hey there,

We offer plenty of plug and play LED headlight kits.

Here are all of the LED headlights that we offer: https://www.quadratec.com/categories/lighting_lenses_bulbs/headlights/led-headlights

Just be sure to choose your Jeep from the drop down menu.

I currently have the Quadratec Stealth LED headlights in both my TJ and in my JK. I also have the LED fog lights in my JK as well, I love them!

Quadratec LED headlight with LED fog light combo, this comes with the white Q or the Stealth blacked out version in the photo a little lower:
https://www.quadratec.com/products/97109_0020.htm




Or just the LED Headlights:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/gen-II-led-headlights-07-17-jeep-wrangler-jk



If you live in the colder areas we also have a Heated LED projector headlight: :

https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadratec/heated-led-projector-beam-headlamps-jeep-wrangler-jk




I also recommend the JW speaker LED headlights:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/jw-speaker/8700-evolution-j2-series-led-headlight-wrangler-jk



Pro Comp LED:

https://www.quadratec.com/p/pro-comp-lighting/explorer-7-led-headlamp-pair-07-17-jeep-wrangler-jk



We also offer a forum discount for forum members.


For a discounted quote you can go about it 2 ways:

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Whichever you prefer works for us.

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I am considering this one from your site;

https://www.quadratec.com/p/oracle-l...-jeep-wrangler

Is it plug and play? Easy to install? I don't see an install video for it so not sure. Would these LED's require any kind of adjusting (the height of light) after being installed? Is it a good, reliable product to go with? Thanks.
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^Can't figure out how to edit the above post, but about those lights I posted; would those be okay in winter where it's very cold with lots of snow? Thanks.
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In general, halogen lights do not have issues in snowy climates because the halogen bulb heats the lens and melts any snow that tries to accumulate on the light. LED lights produce heat in the rear so do not warm the lens, allowing snow to accumulate on the headlight just like it does everywhere else on the front of your vehicle. The only solution is to buy a light with an LED light with a heated lens. The ones you are looking at are not heated.

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In general, halogen lights do not have issues in snowy climates because the halogen bulb heats the lens and melts any snow that tries to accumulate on the light. LED lights produce heat in the rear so do not warm the lens, allowing snow to accumulate on the headlight just like it does everywhere else on the front of your vehicle. The only solution is to buy a light with an LED light with a heated lens. The ones you are looking at are not heated.

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Thank you for that, so sounds like the one I am looking at won't work for me as there'll be issues in winter. I will keep looking at other options.
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I bought the Q-tech heated LED’s as when we do get Winter precip it tends to be freezing rain/slush/wet snow where I live. These are the QTech by JWS. VERY easy install, have generally been pleased with them- I had tried upgraded Sylvania bulbs in the stock housings - not much difference. Much better with QT LED’s.


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I am considering this one from your site;

https://www.quadratec.com/p/oracle-l...-jeep-wrangler

Is it plug and play? Easy to install? I don't see an install video for it so not sure. Would these LED's require any kind of adjusting (the height of light) after being installed? Is it a good, reliable product to go with? Thanks.
Frankly I'm surprised that @Quadratec is selling that crap. The color shifting halo is illegal and cannot be compliant with FMVSS-108.
The text also has a few inaccurate descriptions that hint that the product was never truly tested and assayed for compliance. It states that it is DOT and SAE "approved"; neither entity has any approval power. States that it has a "6000K color temperature" --- LEDs don't have temperature ratings.
Bad product. Avoid.
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I bought the Q-tech heated LED’s as when we do get Winter precip it tends to be freezing rain/slush/wet snow where I live. These are the QTech by JWS. VERY easy install, have generally been pleased with them- I had tried upgraded Sylvania bulbs in the stock housings - not much difference. Much better with QT LED’s.
Sylvania's upgraded bulbs aren't very good --- Phillips makes the best H13 bulbs.
But there isn't much you can do with the H13 design, especially when the parabola isn't very good and the power delivery is pulsewidth modulated and throttled back from full potential.
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I am considering this one from your site;

https://www.quadratec.com/p/oracle-l...-jeep-wrangler

Is it plug and play? Easy to install? I don't see an install video for it so not sure. Would these LED's require any kind of adjusting (the height of light) after being installed? Is it a good, reliable product to go with? Thanks.

Those Oracle headlights are plug and play and easy to install. There is a link for the installation instructions on the web page for the headlights if you want to check it out. However with the weather in your area you live in I would highly recommend the heated LED headlights.


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https://www.quadratec.com/p/oracle-l...-jeep-wrangler

Is it plug and play? Easy to install? I don't see an install video for it so not sure. Would these LED's require any kind of adjusting (the height of light) after being installed? Is it a good, reliable product to go with? Thanks.
Hi there! Just wanted to clear up a few things with the ORACLE High Powered headlights.

They are an easy install; here's a great overview video:

Regarding the legality, we recommend checking your local laws. Typically, white and amber are street-legal while the ColorShift is used for display while parked for shows, photos, etc. Here's the product features per light:
• Low Beam Wattage: 30W Normal/36W Max
• Low Beam Lumens: 2200 Lumens/3600 Raw Lumens
• High Beam Wattage: 40W Normal/48W Max
• High Beam Lumens: 3600 Lumens/4800 Raw Lumens
LEDs do actually have a temperature rating from 2700K to 6500K. These headlights sit at 6000K, making them a cool white perfect for lighting roads and trails.

As far as the 'approval' verbiage, these are DOT and SAE certified.

Here's a photo of the white for reference:

Hope that clears a few questions for you. Please let me know if we can assist you further with your decision. Hope to see you running ORACLE!
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If I was going to put money into headlights, I would buy something that is actually going to provide better lighting at night and not just something cosmetic. I've got no issue with halos (as long as they are white) and am actually a big fan of DRL's, but I would spend the money to get an actual LED headlight. Just my opinion though.

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LEDs do actually have a temperature rating from 2700K to 6500K. These headlights sit at 6000K
LEDs don't have a temperature rating. They'd have an SPD graph and CRI.


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As far as the 'approval' verbiage, these are DOT and SAE certified....
Approval shouldn't be in air quotes.
Neither the DOT nor SAE certify anything.
You certify that they are compliant with FMVSS-108 by virtue of the extensive testing and assaying that the product(s) was subjected to.
And they would not have been tested and assayed to be compliant since they have the ability to change to Disney colors, which are non-compliant.
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LEDs don't have a temperature rating. They'd have an SPD graph and CRI.
SPD and CRI are not what are used automotive industry to denote White color hue. CCT (Correlated Color TEMPERATURE) is how light color is specified in automotive light. If you are specifying lighting for a commercial project you may specify CRI (R9 specifically) but does not necessarily apply in this context.

We have our own on-site photometric testing lab, if you want to discuss photonics give us a call... our engineers would love to take a deep dive on the subject.


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Approval shouldn't be in air quotes.
Neither the DOT nor SAE certify anything.
You are correct DOT does not approve anything that's WHY we use quotes. These LED Headlights (not referring to the colored halo lights) are third party certified to be FULLY compliant with FMVSS108 CFR 400-599.
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I installed the Quadratec's above last night - and I really like them - very good value if you don't feel like dropping the better part of a grand on the big boys.



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SPD and CRI are not what are used automotive industry to denote White color hue. CCT (Correlated Color TEMPERATURE) is how light color is specified in automotive light. If you are specifying lighting for a commercial project you may specify CRI (R9 specifically) but does not necessarily apply in this context.

We have our own on-site photometric testing lab, if you want to discuss photonics give us a call... our engineers would love to take a deep dive on the subject.




You are correct DOT does not approve anything that's WHY we use quotes. These LED Headlights (not referring to the colored halo lights) are third party certified to be FULLY compliant with FMVSS108 CFR 400-599.
Sorry bout that; this lab is chromatography, mass spec, and uv-vis. No cigar.

But you must be aware that the kids are running the Disney lights on the street, right? I'm fresh back from lunch and saw red and green halos facing forward.
You have to kill that feature to be considered legitimate.

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