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Old 07-14-2015, 10:50 AM
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Help finding help for Towing :-)

Ok I've been reading through threads for some direction on this... I'm just wondering where I can go to find help getting answers about towing safety?

Can I go to the jeep dealership? What about just a repair shop?

The long and short of it is that I have no towing experience, I have a 2015 2 door, manual, 3.21 gears. I have no hitch or anything yet.

I'm trying to find out if I can safely tow my sister's pop-up camper and my nieces horse (not at the same time....obviously), but no one knows how much the camper, or horse/trailer, weighs. So I'm just trying to find someone that can tell me how to figure out how much this stuff weighs, and if I can tow it?

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Go to your local truck stop that has a cat certified scale. Go inside and tell the attendant what you want to do and they will give you some instructions.

Pull the trailers with a capable truck and weigh the truck trailer combo. Then unhook the trailer and go over the scale again. Do a little math and presto change-o you have the trailer weight.

If you do tow with it make sure that you have trailer brakes on the trailer and a controller in your jeep. Just because you can pull something doesn't mean you can stop it.

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Max tow capacity of a two dr. Is 2000#
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Your vehicle is not certify by Chrysler to tow more than 2000lbs. Not sure if you even can with the 3.21 gears.
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Your vehicle is not certify by Chrysler to tow more than 2000lbs. Not sure if you even can with the 3.21 gears.
a 1989 YJ with a 2.5 liter has a tow rating of 2000 lbs. it's the wheelbase that is the limiting factor. Physically a Jk can pull way more. Safety wise because of the wheelbase your risking your insurance not covering you if you do pull more.
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If you look on the camper there will be a tag with the weight listed.
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A horse is about 1000 pounds and a light single horse trailer is 1300 pounds at least so you won't be towing that.
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If you look on the camper there will be a tag with the weight listed.
Awesome! Is there a "standard" location for that tag?
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If I'm towing a horse and trailer, I believe from what I'm reading that it's definitely over the maximum tow weight.

However, I've read a lot about capabilities vs. safety and it seems the jeep is capable of towing the horse.

If I towed the horse, it would be exactly 6.6 miles of flat dirt roads with no traffic, and I could go as slow as I wanted. Is that feasible, or still unsafe?
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Towing outside the limits of your vehicle is unsafe. Period. That being said I see people doing it every day so you will have to decide for yourself if you are willing to risk your safety and others or the posibilty of damaging your rig by forcing it to do something it was not designed for.

In the conditions you described I would worry about overheating the transmission. Slow speeds do not make for decent air flow across your trans cooler.
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. If I towed the horse, it would be exactly 6.6 miles of flat dirt roads with no traffic, and I could go as slow as I wanted. Is that feasible, or still unsafe?
Why even tow the horse if on dirt roads with no traffic? Why not ride the horse 6.6 miles?
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Why even tow the horse if on dirt roads with no traffic? Why not ride the horse 6.6 miles?
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If the camper was a little over the max weight I wouldn't give you a hard time but towing a trailer with a live animal is nothing like towing a static load the horse will move and possibly cause sway. I tow a 3 horse trailer loaded with a 1500 with a trailer sway bar and load leveler hitch and I can still feel the horses moving. I could just imagine a 2dr jeep with one horse
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Weight and control aside (you lose on both those) one point I've often seen new towers is having a wider trailer than the tow rig.

That's one call i wouldn't want to make to either sis or the niece.
They might forgive me but I wouldn't.

I got my start with trailers at 10 on the farm where the worst I could (and did) do was run over a few bails of hay, and 50 yrs later your plan scares me.

It's not that you can't or the jeep for that matter, it's just risky as hell.
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Put a harness on the horse and have him pull the popup camper. Problem solved
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With your rig an 8-10" utility trailer with an ATV or a few lawn mowers is all it is really designed to tow. You could get by with a very light weight camper, but it is unsatisfactory. Wanglers just aren't meant to tow much of anything. I know some of the JKU's are rated at 3500 lbs, but there are still far better options if you need to tow.

I don't care if your driving a Peterbuilt, most drivers just don't tow right up to the maximum allowable except in extremely rare conditions and for short hauls on level ground. Around 70-80% of what it is rated for is a good rule of thumb.
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If I'm towing a horse and trailer, I believe from what I'm reading that it's definitely over the maximum tow weight.

However, I've read a lot about capabilities vs. safety and it seems the jeep is capable of towing the horse.

If I towed the horse, it would be exactly 6.6 miles of flat dirt roads with no traffic, and I could go as slow as I wanted. Is that feasible, or still unsafe?
I wouldnt worry about pulling a small horse trailer and one horse on flat dirt road for 6 miles.Just go slow and you will be fine.When towing speed is a problem. If you going slow for short distance on flat back road or dirt road I dont see any issues .I wouldnt take it up or down any hills and I would not go out on busy roads. If you look on the camper there should be a tag next to the door or on the front that shows its weight.
I have a hitch on my 2 door and have towed quit a bit with it on local back roads.But I only pull a small utility trailer with ATV or mowers ect. Our zero turn mower is pretty heavy and I dont even know its back there.
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To repeat what someone else said... you should not mess around towing a live animal with a vehicle that is not capable of handling it. That is unsafe for you, your Jeep, and the horse, not matter how slow you go or how short the distance.
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I kinda wonder if some of you have ever towed anything .While only rated at 2000lbs the JK is no compact car for crying out loud.
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I kinda wonder if some of you have ever towed anything .While only rated at 2000lbs the JK is no compact car for crying out loud.
I second this. My earlier point was an old beat up YJ can pull the same 2000pounds without all the horsepower and stability control/anti sway. The JK physically can handle it. The rating is very conservative. The jeep is more than capable.
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I kinda wonder if some of you have ever towed anything .While only rated at 2000lbs the JK is no compact car for crying out loud.
It is also not a truck. Jeeps are not designed to tow hence the low tow ratings.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.
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It is also not a truck. Jeeps are not designed to tow hence the low tow ratings.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.
I would believe that the law suit happy american public has more to do with the tow rating than anything else, It's the money.
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Ok I've been reading through threads for some direction on this... I'm just wondering where I can go to find help getting answers about towing safety?

Can I go to the jeep dealership? What about just a repair shop?

The long and short of it is that I have no towing experience, I have a 2015 2 door, manual, 3.21 gears. I have no hitch or anything yet.

I'm trying to find out if I can safely tow my sister's pop-up camper and my nieces horse (not at the same time....obviously), but no one knows how much the camper, or horse/trailer, weighs. So I'm just trying to find someone that can tell me how to figure out how much this stuff weighs, and if I can tow it?
Here would be the answer to the question of hauling a live animal that puts the weight of the load beyond the rating of the tow rig. I don't know you or your driving skill level....I know, every one of us is the best driver there is.....But, only you will answer to your niece if the animal gets injured because you effed up!
The JEEP will probably handle either load with ease......but again, only you can answer the question of how well YOU can control the load.
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I kinda wonder if some of you have ever towed anything .While only rated at 2000lbs the JK is no compact car for crying out loud.
Towing 2000lbs and towing 2000lbs that can move around are two different things. 6.6 miles? come on dude ride the horse. I've dealt with cattle (not horses) and they will make my dually wander...

Don't ask if you can pull it..you can. Ask if you can stop it....that's usually the tow weight limitation.

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