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Hi-Lift Jacks: Location and Lockability?

Hello. Wanted to find a vendor for ordering a hi-lift jack and mount but wanted some opinions on pros and cons of mounting locations (hood/DS/PS/etc).

Being that my JK is not pure trailer queen, i'd appreciate the ability to be able to secure/lock the jack from easy theft. Also, the jeep barely fits in the garage as-is so i wouldnt be able to get anything that would extend above the jeep's current height. I assume i would want a 48" jack given my 3.5" lift and 37" tires.

So far, i'm leaning towards BOLT's side mount but i know you more experienced fellers may know of a better, more preferred option.

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I've moved this from the build forum to the JK general forum, hopefully you'll get more responses here.

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Mine lays on the floor behind the bucket seats. Takes up no room and isn't exposed to the elements
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Mine is mounted on the hood using brackets bolted to hinges and I am able to put a pad lock on it.
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The thing you should probably worry about more than theft is "Rust"...

Hi-Lifts turn into rust monsters really quickly if mounted out in the elements. Then that rust drips down onto your paint, bumpers, etc... and stains everything it comes in contact with.

I mounted mine on the following relatively inexpensive roll cage mount. It keeps it solidly mounted, secure inside the Jeep, out of the elements, out of the way for cargo, and ready to go anytime I need it.

https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/hi-lif.../R-BJDH-RC-875

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Bought the hi lift mount that goes on the roll bar. I have a hardtop so it’s inside,locked up and out of the elements. Since I only take it when I am going out it’s easy to remove and the mounts don’t take up much room. Also no drilling.
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I used to always run it on my JK hoods and remove when I wasnít going on wheeling trips. I have mine on the front bumper of the JL (but it works the same as the JK) on the tabs where lights are meant to go. I used pieces of a hilift universal bracket and wing nuts hold it in place. It would be easy enough to loop a gun lock or similar around it and the bull bar to keep it from being rehomed too easily.
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I only carry mine on wheeling trips, and I prefer to just put it under the rear seat in a nylon bag, fits perfectly (JKU).

If I'm really loading up the interior or want to fold down the rear seat I can mount it on my Teraflex hinge with the accessory bracket. Bolts to bracket are same size as wheel studs so can use a locking lug nut. I also use a cable lock to secure my spare mounted rotopax and shovel, which I attach to the jack with some Dominion Offroad quick grips brackets. Cable lock secures everything to the spare, which is itself secured with locking lug nuts.


Have to be careful not to shut the gate with the glass up or the jack will hit the glass on the side and likely break it. Have to stress this to passengers in particular, as it may not be immediately obvious that it will be a problem if you just mindlessly slam the gate shut. No problem with the jack contacting the body or tail light when the gate is fully opened though.


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I carry mine full time on my tire carrier:



The wing nuts are tightened down using a large screw driver. You are not removing the the nuts with your hand.
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I choose... None of the above.

In the 18 years of wheeling, I never needed one. Maybe I do not do enough hard core trails. Maybe I don't push my Jeep hard enough. A scissor jack has been enough for many of the situations out there. A jack booster can be had that takes up less space.

Can you really... truly... find a real use for it? Have you truly a need for it?

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I'm guessing your JK is similar enough to a YJ to consider a roll bar mount.

Pic 1-is when I first got the Jeep 4+ years ago and was trial fitting the Hi=Lift prior to painting the Jeep. The jack is currently mounted horizontally, not at an angle as shown in the pic.

Pic 2- is the passenger side showing the 2 1/4" muffler clamp.
Pic 3- is the drivers side. I had to drill out the base of the jack to fit the 3/8" U-bolt from the muffler clamp on that side.

Some online retailers get in the $60.00 range for a roll bar mount.
I spent about $8.00 for the two muffler clamps.

I don't run a back seat and the jack is mounted just high enough that I can slide a plastic storage bin with tools & recovery gear underneath it.

It's out of the weather and as secure as anything in a Wrangler can be.

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I choose... None of the above.

In the 18 years of wheeling, I never needed one. Maybe I do not do enough hard core trails. Maybe I don't push my Jeep hard enough. A scissor jack has been enough for many of the situations out there. A jack booster can be had that takes up less space.

Can you really... truly... find a real use for it? Have you truly a need for it?

https://www.amazon.com/Jeep-Wrangler...=jack+aev+base

I think most people, myself included, never or at most rarely use them. But it's not too much of hassle for me to take along, and given my proclivity for going to very remote places solo / single vehicle, I figure having an extra piece of recovery gear "just in case" doesn't hurt.


I actually have the jack base too, so that I have two usable jacks if needed. I will say that I've definitely been through some rocky places where using the scissor jack even with the base could have been a challenge. The extra height of the hi lift gives more options when your choice of where to plant the jack is limited.
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Shadowmaker makes a good point. Since I mounted the jack around 4 years ago, I've never taken it out.
A high lift has its place on the trail, but knowing the jacks limitations and how to use it SAFELY is absolutely imperative.
The scissor jack is the best jack for changing a tire. If your Jeep is lifted, bring along a 12" X 12" piece of 3/4" plywood and a couple 12" 2X6s.

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Have you truly a need for it?
Driving along a perfectly normal looking 2 track trail, not a tree or body of water insight. The next minute and the Jeep is buried up to the belly pan in quick sand. Without a shovel, hi lift jack and luckily a bunch of scrub brush and rocks you are not getting out of it. It took almost 8 hours for me to get unstuck.

You may not need it often but when you do it can save your life.
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I choose... None of the above.

In the 18 years of wheeling, I never needed one. Maybe I do not do enough hard core trails. Maybe I don't push my Jeep hard enough. A scissor jack has been enough for many of the situations out there. A jack booster can be had that takes up less space.

Can you really... truly... find a real use for it? Have you truly a need for it?

https://www.amazon.com/Jeep-Wrangler...=jack+aev+base
Insurance. I havenít been in a car wreck for over decade and havenít had any major health issues but you donít need insurance until you need it. I carry other jacks with me on the trails, but envision the hilift could help in some situations including winch failure when wheeling alone. I feel like it is something I should have to be fully prepared when wheeling, like carrying a pocket knife.
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I choose... None of the above.

In the 18 years of wheeling, I never needed one. Maybe I do not do enough hard core trails. Maybe I don't push my Jeep hard enough. A scissor jack has been enough for many of the situations out there. A jack booster can be had that takes up less space.

Can you really... truly... find a real use for it? Have you truly a need for it?

https://www.amazon.com/Jeep-Wrangler...=jack+aev+base

In the 18 years of wheeling, I never needed one. Maybe I do not do enough hard core trails. Maybe I don't push my Jeep hard enough. A scissor jack has been enough for many of the situations out there. A jack booster can be had that takes up less space.

I have read a few statements like this and I am always disappointed that the Hi lift is underestimated. It should not be regarded as merely a way to change your tire. A Hi lift jack is the solution to a problem you cannot predict. I am 44 and have two Hi lift jacks that have moved from vehicle to vehicle over the years. I was once stuck in the snow on a dirt road in an F150, the high lift with a snatch strap, a ratchet strap and a tree pulled me out. I once was cutting firewood with a chainsaw in the middle of nowhere. As I cut through a fallen walnut tree about two feet in diameter it pinched the saw, the Hi lift was able to jack the tree up and feel the saw. A scissor jack could have maybe worked, but the tree was about 3 feet off the ground. Emergency crews carry Hi lifts for their ability to quickly deploy. Regrettably about a year ago I backed over a teenager in my JK. I put it in reverse, checked my mirrors twice and somehow still ended up with a teenage girl pinned under my Jeep. At the time I just had a tereflex leveling kit with stock tires which made it the perfect height to catch her knees and pin her to the ground. I was able to pull my Hi lift off the back of my Jeep and lift it off her from the rubi rails on the side in seconds. She fell right between the tires and at the end of it all her worst physical injury was a burn from the exhaust. It would have taken an eternity to get the scissor jack out and it would not have gotten the Jeep as high to assist in getting her out. As stated earlier, a Hi lift is insurance. Other uses not mentioned, the removable handle makes a hell of a cheater bar for stubborn bolts and if your enclosed utility trailer is partially crushed from rolling across your front yard in a tornado, the Hi lift an some 2x4s will push it all back out into shape.
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well... alot of interesting points throughout the thread lol.


i guess i'll just order the jack and base and keep it in the trunk behind the seat as someone mentioned. I dont have a need for 99% of any of my possessions, as i discovered in the military lol... but i want one.


The front bumper option seems great to me too, for now. Since i dont go often, i'd like to see how often people actually resort to the jack and shovel. That being said, around town i also dont carry my spare tire with me and as such my JK doesnt have a spare tire carrier.


I was considering buying a spare tire carrier to mount items like someone pictured (shovel and jack and gas cans). I tend to buy the full band if im not sure about EXACTLY which guitar im wanting to purchase kind of thing :/
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I mounted mine on my JCR Spare Tire Carrier...
Security is a pair of 5/8Ē Nylock nuts and a 1/2Ē bicycle cable lock (not shown)...
I agree that itís just Insurance - just like the jugs of gas and water.
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I sort of figure itís like bringing an umbrella to a picnic... As long as youíre dragging it to the picnic, youíll probably never need it...
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I havent carried one in years and only used one 20 years ago to "winch" myself out of a bog. If I where to carry one again Ild likely mount it up on the roof rack.
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I have this, it's perfect! I'm really surprised that not more people have it. It is completely out of the way and safe from the elements.

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I have this, it's perfect! I'm really surprised that not more people have it. It is completely out of the way and safe from the elements.
i wonder if this'll still work with my fastback soft top. If not, I actually like Randy's spare tire carrier.
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I'd like to see how often people actually resort to the jack and shovel. That being said, around town i also dont carry my spare tire with me and as such my JK doesnt have a spare tire carrier.
I actually just put the small basket on the roof for a snow scoop and a place to carry my straps and possibly chains this winter. Most people I help out of ditches are within 3 miles from my house. My spare is carried inside strapped to the sport bar as the back is a cargo tray.
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I used two different methods depending on whether or not I was using a swing out tire carrier. If not using the carrier, I did something like NaptownLarry shows in post 5 and kept the jack inside the cab area. If using the swing out carrier, the jack was mounted similar to post 8, but on the swing out arm. It was fully covered, not just the mechanism, using a Hi-Lift cover, with a cable and lock helping to secure it. When mounted outside and even though fully covered, I would periodically test/service/lubricate the jack to help ensure it would function when needed. Usually, I'd do that once a year and before leaving to go on extended wheeling trips to the mountains.
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...When mounted outside and even though fully covered, I would periodically test/service/lubricate the jack to help ensure it would function when needed. Usually, I'd do that once a year and before leaving to go on extended wheeling trips to the mountains.
This was my plan as well. Even though i've never used one, it'd only benefit me and possibly someone i might help to periodically train and retrain myself on proper use for proficiency. Everything up to that point is really just for looks
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One of the oddest looking uses the first time I saw it was when a Jeep was stuck in a rut. The owner jacked up his Jeep high enough that the Jeep was unstable and then pushed it over. When the tire contacted the ground, he was out of the rut. Brilliant!
He was the lead vehicle and didn’t feel like pulling a cable I guess.

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