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Old 11-01-2015, 05:36 PM
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Huge SCORE at Dumpsters!!!

The quick back story is that I have a 2015 JKUS with hardtop and I work at a very wealthy community full of multi-million dollar vacation homes. My job is in security and part of our duties require us to patrol the property including the community dumpster/recycle area to make sure things stay orderly and clean.

When I arrived at work today I noticed an entry in our logs that some large debris was left on the ground near the dumpsters and that help would be needed to remove it in the morning. The entry included a description of the debris as "...what appears to be a wine chiller and some type of Jeep top.".

OK...that got my attention!!!
I had to run over there to see what this was all about, I just had to.

When I arrived I immediately saw a large folded up, framed, soft top and two flat cardboard boxes marked "Chrysler" on the ground near the dumpster.

Sure enough I found what appears to be a brand new unused Premium Soft Top from the Dual Top Option Group. One of the boxes has 2 tinted windows and the other has door frame parts, the rear window was sitting on top of the boxes. The instruction books are there and there is even the orange sticker: "Caution: One of these tops must be removed.".

The folded up framed part of the top does have some scratches on parts of the tubular frame, from when it was thrown on the ground, but nothing that can't be fixed up with a little sandpaper and spray paint.

Since I'm currently working now I haven't had the time to confirm that all the parts are there or that this is the top for the Unlimited Wrangler.

I just wanted to share my excitement and ask two questions:
1) If there are any missing parts, can they be ordered separately?
2) Is there anyway to tell, besides unfolding to see size, if this is the 2dr or 4dr model? (There are Mopar part#'s on the flat boxes but nothing that I could see on the frame.)

Again, I only had time to grab and run since I was scheduled at another location for the night. So details are a little sketchy right now.



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I would not worry. There probably isn't any way for the dude who had his Jeep stolen, to figure out that you have the soft top from it.
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I would not worry. There probably isn't any way for the dude who had his Jeep stolen, to figure out that you have the soft top from it.
HA! TBH, this crossed my mind too....
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I would not worry. There probably isn't any way for the dude who had his Jeep stolen, to figure out that you have the soft top from it.
LOL, way to spoil the excitement!
But no way that's the case here...
This community is occupied by the ultra-wealthy and I often see expensive items (high end furniture, granite counter tops, working appliances etc.) discarded by them without a thought.

Furthermore, this is a very low crime area and gated community that has not seen a break-in or stolen vehicle in the 15 years I've worked here.

And, if I do learn of a stolen Wrangler that gets returned to the owner without its soft top I would certainly return it to the rightful owner.
FWIW, we have cameras on the dumpsters so it will be easy to determine who discarded the top if necessary.

*Does anyone know how I can determine if this is the 4dr top and if there should be more than the two boxes and framed top that I found?
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LOL, way to spoil the excitement!
But no way that's the case here...
This community is occupied by the ultra-wealthy and I often see expensive items (high end furniture, granite counter tops, working appliances etc.) discarded by them without a thought.

Furthermore, this is a very low crime area and gated community that has not seen a break-in or stolen vehicle in the 15 years I've worked here.

And, if I do learn of a stolen Wrangler that gets returned to the owner without its soft top I would certainly return it to the rightful owner.
FWIW, we have cameras on the dumpsters so it will be easy to determine who discarded the top if necessary.

*Does anyone know how I can determine if this is the 4dr top and if there should be more than the two boxes and framed top that I found?

Just look at the windows or the door surrounds.

Only two plastic door surrounds, windows with slash across them: two door
Four plastic door surrounds, windows without slash: four door

You probably don't have the brackets from the roll bar.
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LOL, way to spoil the excitement!
But no way that's the case here...
This community is occupied by the ultra-wealthy and I often see expensive items (high end furniture, granite counter tops, working appliances etc.) discarded by them without a thought.

Furthermore, this is a very low crime area and gated community that has not seen a break-in or stolen vehicle in the 15 years I've worked here.

And, if I do learn of a stolen Wrangler that gets returned to the owner without its soft top I would certainly return it to the rightful owner.
FWIW, we have cameras on the dumpsters so it will be easy to determine who discarded the top if necessary.

*Does anyone know how I can determine if this is the 4dr top and if there should be more than the two boxes and framed top that I found?
On the 2 door, the back side windows have a black diagonal "stripe" that covers a piece of the frame. If the back side windows are just plastic throughout without a solid piece cutting through, it's a 4 door!
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Just look at the windows or the door surrounds.

Only two plastic door surrounds, windows with slash across them: two door
Four plastic door surrounds, windows without slash: four door

You probably don't have the brackets from the roll bar.
Looks like I'm a little slow
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Wow, this neighborhood is so wealthy they even have cameras pointed at the trash?

Very nice find. Hopefully it's complete and you get to keep it.
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On the 2 door, the back side windows have a black diagonal "stripe" that covers a piece of the frame. If the back side windows are just plastic throughout without a solid piece cutting through, it's a 4 door!
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*Does anyone know how I can determine if this is the 4dr top and if there should be more than the two boxes and framed top that I found?
You could always just sit at the gate for a bit and look for the $80,000.00 Jeep to come rolling out. It should have just about every mod know to man hanging off of it and look like it hasn't seen an unpaved road in its life.
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Just look at the windows or the door surrounds.

Only two plastic door surrounds, windows with slash across them: two door
Four plastic door surrounds, windows without slash: four door

You probably don't have the brackets from the roll bar.
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On the 2 door, the back side windows have a black diagonal "stripe" that covers a piece of the frame. If the back side windows are just plastic throughout without a solid piece cutting through, it's a 4 door!
Awesome, solid windows, it's a 4dr!
Thanks for the help guys!

Here's what I have for door surrounds:
A pair of the hinged pieces (bottom) and a pair of the straight pieces (top) and a bag of hand screws.

Am I missing the roll bar brackets?
If so, can anyone help me find a part number for them?

Thanks again everyone. So far, so good.
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A lot of vehicles are stolen to spec or order. Some thief could have found a near-match, with only it having a dual-top when only a hardtop was wanted. So, into the dumpster the unwanted soft top goes.

The Jeep need not have been stolen from within this ultra-wealthy neighbor hood. It only needed to have a dumpster that no one would give it a second though if a brand new soft top was seen within.

While the wealthy might toss out furniture, counter tops, or appliances, I am sure that such are used; even if just slightly. Even the wealthy don't go out of their way to buy brand new appliances just to toss them out. The wealthy are an odd lot at times. My friend would buy a $120,000 car on a whim (cash), and then baulk at paying $100 for its floor mats.
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Wow, this neighborhood is so wealthy they even have cameras pointed at the trash?
Indeed, though they're mostly to prevent people who are not homeowners from dumping trash/construction debris, i.e. theft of services.

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You could always just sit at the gate for a bit and look for the $80,000.00 Jeep to come rolling out. It should have just about every mod know to man hanging off of it and look like it hasn't seen an unpaved road in its life.
Yup, we have plenty of those.
Though in all fairness there is so much easily accessible off-roading around here that it's likely most have seen at least some dirt at least once.
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A lot of vehicles are stolen to spec or order. Some thief could have found a near-match, with only it having a dual-top when only a hardtop was wanted. So, into the dumpster the unwanted soft top goes.

The Jeep need not have been stolen from within this ultra-wealthy neighbor hood. It only needed to have a dumpster that no one would give it a second though if a brand new soft top was seen within.

While the wealthy might toss out furniture, counter tops, or appliances, I am sure that such are used; even if just slightly. Even the wealthy don't go out of their way to buy brand new appliances just to toss them out. The wealthy are an odd lot at times. My friend would buy a $120,000 car on a whim (cash), and then baulk at paying $100 for its floor mats.
OK, you make a valid point.
I have already contacted our security camera person and he is going to check the video to see who dumped them.

Beyond that there are shipping addresses on the boxes, possibly a dealership. I will look into making contact, though I'd hate to return this top to an unscrupulous dealer who has no right to them.
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Beyond that there are shipping addresses on the boxes, possibly a dealership. I will look into making contact, though I'd hate to return this top to an unscrupulous dealer who has no right to them.
Thoughts?
Never mind, my mistake, there's no shipping address just a ship from: Continental Structural Plastic

They are also marked "4 DR Kit" that I missed in my haste and excitement.
Sorry for the stupid questions.

*But I am still curious if I'm missing any parts like the roll bar brackets?
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You might be missing:
The long bar that holds the back window to the tub. It locks into the two approx. 4" long clips that might be in the box of door surround hardware.

nice find if you have a 4dr.
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The roll bar brackets won't be there. They are mounted on the roll bar of the jeep that came w the dual top option. You can buy those brackets. I forget the price. On my 08 I bought a used soft top on Craigslist. Then ordered the brackets. They want something like $6 per screw for the brackets. Don't buy them. Go to lowes or Home Depot and buy the screws. They are M6-1.00 x 20. Well. Unless they changed the size but I doubt they did.
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The long bar that holds the back window to the tub. It locks into the two approx. 4" long clips that might be in the box of door surround hardware.

nice find if you have a 4dr.
Thank you, I do have that.
It was not in the boxes but it was in the pile of folded up top/frame.
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A lot of vehicles are stolen to spec or order. Some thief could have found a near-match, with only it having a dual-top when only a hardtop was wanted. So, into the dumpster the unwanted soft top goes.

The Jeep need not have been stolen from within this ultra-wealthy neighbor hood. It only needed to have a dumpster that no one would give it a second though if a brand new soft top was seen within.

While the wealthy might toss out furniture, counter tops, or appliances, I am sure that such are used; even if just slightly. Even the wealthy don't go out of their way to buy brand new appliances just to toss them out. The wealthy are an odd lot at times. My friend would buy a $120,000 car on a whim (cash), and then baulk at paying $100 for its floor mats.
This scenario you described seems a little...far fetched. I suppose we are just talking hypotheticals here but in the event a Jeep was "stolen to order" I don't think a thief would take the time to remove a soft top and dump it in a dumpster. If it was removed at all it would be left right there on the street or driveway. But I don't think it would ever be removed in the first place. In a Dual top optioned Jeep it is installed under the hardtop, which must be removed in order to remove the soft top. It's much more likely that the owner of the Jeep bought dual tops because that is what was on the lot, and perhaps negotiated down the price. The owner then removed the soft top, and knowing he never planned on using it simply tossed it out because he did not have the time or desire to deal with craigslist scum and probably doesn't care to post on internet forums either. Time is money, and to some its worth more than others. $500-$700 is kind of pocket change if you're making half a mil a year and not worth dealing with pawning the top off on someone else.

Just my $.02

Congrats OP on scoring a sweet deal! If you do track down who dumped it, maybe you can befriend him and he can give you more stuff. For instance, tell him to order that front bumper you like. Then a few months later tell him how much it sucks and that another front bumper is much better. VOILA! you will have a new bumper next to the dumpster in no time!
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Thank you, I do have that.
It was not in the boxes but it was in the pile of folded up top/frame.
Then you must have it all! Go through the instructions and I will explain how to install it. If you get through all the instructions and find all the parts, you have everything.
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Then you must have it all! Go through the instructions and I will explain how to install it. If you get through all the instructions and find all the parts, you have everything.
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The roll bar brackets won't be there. They are mounted on the roll bar of the jeep that came w the dual top option. You can buy those brackets. I forget the price. On my 08 I bought a used soft top on Craigslist. Then ordered the brackets. They want something like $6 per screw for the brackets. Don't buy them. Go to lowes or Home Depot and buy the screws. They are M6-1.00 x 20. Well. Unless they changed the size but I doubt they did.
Great, thanks.
I'll talk to the dealer next time I'm there and order what's needed.

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This scenario you described seems a little...far fetched. I suppose we are just talking hypotheticals here but in the event a Jeep was "stolen to order" I don't think a thief would take the time to remove a soft top and dump it in a dumpster. If it was removed at all it would be left right there on the street or driveway. But I don't think it would ever be removed in the first place. In a Dual top optioned Jeep it is installed under the hardtop, which must be removed in order to remove the soft top. It's much more likely that the owner of the Jeep bought dual tops because that is what was on the lot, and perhaps negotiated down the price. The owner then removed the soft top, and knowing he never planned on using it simply tossed it out because he did not have the time or desire to deal with craigslist scum and probably doesn't care to post on internet forums either. Time is money, and to some its worth more than others. $500-$700 is kind of pocket change if you're making half a mil a year and not worth dealing with pawning the top off on someone else.

Just my $.02

Congrats OP on scoring a sweet deal! If you do track down who dumped it, maybe you can befriend him and he can give you more stuff. For instance, tell him to order that front bumper you like. Then a few months later tell him how much it sucks and that another front bumper is much better. VOILA! you will have a new bumper next to the dumpster in no time!
Thanks for your kind words and good thoughts.
I agree with you, it's more likely this owner decided he would never use the top or possibly the Jeep got sold and come garage cleanout time the never used soft top and parts got discarded.

And, I'm thinking he might have a nice tire/wheel set he doesn't want!
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Here's an update now that I've had a little time to look things over and do some research.

It appears this is the standard fabric soft top manufactured in 2010.
From my research this top should work/fit on my 2015.

It looks like I'm missing the roll bar brackets (2) and bolts (?).
I'm also missing the rear window tailgate bar clips (2).

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The roll bar brackets won't be there. They are mounted on the roll bar of the jeep that came w the dual top option. You can buy those brackets. I forget the price. On my 08 I bought a used soft top on Craigslist. Then ordered the brackets. They want something like $6 per screw for the brackets. Don't buy them. Go to lowes or Home Depot and buy the screws. They are M6-1.00 x 20. Well. Unless they changed the size but I doubt they did.
Thank you, you're correct the brackets are not there.
Are these M6 bolts used to attach the brackets to the roll bar AND attach the soft top frame to the brackets?
If so, do I need 8 total?

Thanks again to you and everyone else that contributed.
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I may be wrong but I think you only need 2 screws to mount to the roll bar. Your bows should have screws that will attach to the brackets. Click image for larger version

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I did a search. You should be fine. I thinks it's the older jeeps. using the newer model header that needs to be trimmed. They moved the footman loop a little in 2011
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Great posts Scott, thanks for your help!

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I did a search. You should be fine. I thinks it's the older jeeps. using the newer model header that needs to be trimmed. They moved the footman loop a little in 2011
This is a 2010 top going on a 2015 Jeep so I think you're correct, it should be OK. If not I'll figure it out when it warms up...in about 7 months. Ugh!

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Do you see these screws on your bows ?
I just ran out to my Jeep to check and yes the bows do have screws attached. So I only need a total of 4 screws, for the two brackets. I'll source them at Home Depot as mentioned earlier.

I'm going to go back to the dumpsters tomorrow when it's light to see if I can find the missing parts but I'm guessing that the roll bar brackets and the rear window bar clips were all left on the Jeep that this top came from so I'll have to buy those. Luckily I stumbled across StarBrite's thread that has some really good info and parts links: https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/so...lp-563993.html

I'm just hoping that maybe the rear window bar clips were in the box with the door surrounds and fell out. I think the roll bar brackets are a lost cause.

Regardless, today was like Christmas in November and I'm very thankful for all the help I've been given here. I guess that means it was also like an early Thanksgiving!
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Fantastic, another great link. Thank you!

Do you know if the roll bar brackets that I need are Part #'s 21 & 22 for 07-12 MY? Crazy that they're 2.5 times more expensive than the newer MY parts!

I see the rear window bar clips are 24 & 25.

Good stuff!

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