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Old 09-04-2019, 10:17 AM
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I have owned 4 jeeps over the years and still have a 2005 X Wrangler and 2017 Wrangler both two door . Thinking (Never Good) I would love to buy a new Wrangler a 2019 or 2020 . But i would like a special order Wrangler with option delete . I would like a manual trans_ AC_ Good Heater_power Steering and Radio ( the end) . They can keep all the rest and save the money . I do not need the computer i can care for my tires and I know when the thing needs service . In short a cheaper Jeep I can FIX .

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Sounds like you want a base Willys package. Except its still computerized. No way around that these days.

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yea.....I am the same way with my vehicles, as base as I can get and add in what I want after I determine what it is that I really wanted.....base willys sounds to be the best option for what you want.
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Wrangler #4 for me was a 2003 X I bought new. I walked into the dealer and said "I want the cheapest Wrangler you have on the lot, all I care about is that is has a manual transmission!". I think I paid $16k for it, out the door. As I was driving it home on the freeway, only then did I realize it didn't have cruise control.


Well, I got exactly what I asked for!


Several years later, I walked into the dealer and said "I want the cheapest Wrangler you have on the lot, all I care about is that is has a manual transmission... and cruise control!"
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The Wrangler must be the only vehicle that lists CC as an option. lol
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The Wrangler must be the only vehicle that lists CC as an option. lol
I think mustang and corvettes can still be special ordered with out CC also....would have to check as its been a long time sinse I had a stang.....


as for my Jeep I am happy with it, granted it has no AC so if I move to Atlanta I may be having second thoughts on my jeep but so far I do love it as it is....
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Special order it. Wait 6-7 weeks. Get what you want and nothing you don't.

That's what i did with my Rubicon back in 2014, and it was well worth the wait.
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Wrangler #4 for me was a 2003 X I bought new. I walked into the dealer and said "I want the cheapest Wrangler you have on the lot, all I care about is that is has a manual transmission!". I think I paid $16k for it, out the door. As I was driving it home on the freeway, only then did I realize it didn't have cruise control.


Well, I got exactly what I asked for!


Several years later, I walked into the dealer and said "I want the cheapest Wrangler you have on the lot, all I care about is that is has a manual transmission... and cruise control!"
Heh, my 2007 (my first) was like that. It did have the freedom top on it and power windows, but everything else was totally base, paid $20k for it new and traded it 10 years later for $10k. (I had a lot of mods on it, but through a dealership, $10k was strong). Loved it, now love my JKU, pretty base, but power mirrors and windows (I don't care about the windows, but power mirrors are nice).
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I wish I could have deleted the factory warranty.

Given the excessive amount of warranty work, FCA should be able to reduce the sticker price significantly with factory warranty declined.

I realize it is a paradox wanting to decline factory warranty despite the large number of warranty claims, but that is just how I prefer to roll.
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Special order it. Wait 6-7 weeks. Get what you want and nothing you don't.

That's what i did with my Rubicon back in 2014, and it was well worth the wait.
That doesn't work anymore. OP wants heated seats, it's impossible to get JUST heated seats. They're part of a package, so OP would need to order the whole package.

Days of piece meal upgrades are behind us.

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All ya have to do is time travel. In the 60's everything was optional:


* Doors
* Passenger seat
* Spare tire
* Roll bar
* Radio
* Hub caps
* Top (hard or soft)
* Transfer case
* Wipers
* Maybe even the windshield


Let us know when ya get back how your jeep is outfitted.
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That doesn't work anymore. OP wants heated seats, it's impossible to get JUST heated seats. They're part of a package, so OP would need to order the whole package.

Days of piece meal upgrades are behind us.

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That sucks. Yeah, I got heated seats but no leather, basic radio with connectivity but no nav, dual top, max towing, manual transmission and engine block heater, and side airbags. Also auto climate control for the wife.

The dealer thought I was crazy when I ordered that.
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Of course you can still have a vehicle that comes barebones and everything is optional. It's called a German car!
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Is e-disco optional on Rubicons?

The last time I custom-ordered anything Mopar was my 2001 Ram 2500 HD and absolutely everything was optional. It was great. V10, granny-gear 5 speed, 4.10 gears, even a 5" lift straight off the train. I later regretted the iron V10, I should have gone Cummins, but I was young and new nothing of diesels. The only downside is that it took almost five months to deliver, they only built 2500s three times a year back then.

What annoys me about package-based ordering is that in the late 90s all the manufacturers were crowing about new "Just In Time" manufacturing techniques, and Chrysler was at the forefront of this. Optional-everything should be even easier in this day and age.
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As customizable as Jeeps are, Chrysler should take a serious look at selling a Wrangler that has strictly the "required by regulations" equipment and nothing else, at a lower price. I know that many Jeep purchasers never use them as much as Jeeps are capable of (guilty as charged, for the most part), but buy them because they "could do it if they wanted too". I think they would still sell well to their current demographic but possibly more-so to the people who want more of a "blank canvas" to add what they want to them.
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As customizable as Jeeps are, Chrysler should take a serious look at selling a Wrangler that has strictly the "required by regulations" equipment and nothing else, at a lower price. I know that many Jeep purchasers never use them as much as Jeeps are capable of (guilty as charged, for the most part), but buy them because they "could do it if they wanted too". I think they would still sell well to their current demographic but possibly more-so to the people who want more of a "blank canvas" to add what they want to them.
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As customizable as Jeeps are, Chrysler should take a serious look at selling a Wrangler that has strictly the "required by regulations" equipment and nothing else, at a lower price. I know that many Jeep purchasers never use them as much as Jeeps are capable of (guilty as charged, for the most part), but buy them because they "could do it if they wanted too". I think they would still sell well to their current demographic but possibly more-so to the people who want more of a "blank canvas" to add what they want to them.
+1. Special order-only bare-bones Jeep with only some basic options: color; engine; transfer case; axles; gear ratio.
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I thought they all come with ESS and backup cam. Bare bones would give you the 3.21's.
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A new "Sport" is about as bare as they come.

Even found myself wanting the "Sport S" over the bare "sport"
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I thought they all come with ESS and backup cam.
I think those are safety requirements these days, like seat belts. And IMO it would be silly to not want ESS, even the best driver can't brake the 4 wheels independently to stop a spin like ESS can, and I believe you can turn it off if say you don't want it kicking in off road (think it's off by default in 4 low).
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I think those are safety requirements these days, like seat belts. And IMO it would be silly to not want ESS, even the best driver can't brake the 4 wheels independently to stop a spin like ESS can, and I believe you can turn it off if say you don't want it kicking in off road (think it's off by default in 4 low).

I think you're thinking of the traction control, ESC? ESS is the thing on JLs that shuts off the engine when you come to a stop.
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You can put black tape over the camera lens. Probably disable the electronic start stop. But you're still paying for them. Then there is crawl control and lane assist for the rubicon trail.
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I think you're thinking of the traction control, ESC? ESS is the thing on JLs that shuts off the engine when you come to a stop.

You're right, I was thinking of ESC and not the engine shut off feature.
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I have owned 4 jeeps over the years and still have a 2005 X Wrangler and 2017 Wrangler both two door . Thinking (Never Good) I would love to buy a new Wrangler a 2019 or 2020 . But i would like a special order Wrangler with option delete . I would like a manual trans_ AC_ Good Heater_power Steering and Radio ( the end) . They can keep all the rest and save the money . I do not need the computer i can care for my tires and I know when the thing needs service . In short a cheaper Jeep I can FIX .
My adult life I have always bought the used best value vehicle which usually included window cranks, manual transmission, and very few creature comforts. Then when Saturn was going out of business, prices dropped even on the used ones. I got an Ion real cheap with sunroof and all the options. The options were easy to get used to.

Then had to buy a vehicle before the divorce. Went and drove a base sport and was intending to buy it, but this Rubicon kept calling to me from across the lot. Went back the next day to buy the sport, and the Rubicon wouldn't leave me alone. Finally I took it for a test ride and took it home. 3 years later I am glad for that decision every day.

Get in the jeep on a hot day and hit the power windows down. Drive for a mile or two to let the built up heat out and power windows up. Even though I changed to 4.88s, the 4.10s served me well until I could afford the gear change. I know 3.21 work for some, but I couldn't imagine a jeep with those gears. Today I hit the highway to go wheeling before the sun was fully up. Going 70mph in a naked jeep at 70* without sunshine is a bit chilly - hit the heated seats, and all is good. Even naked the rear viability is bad with that tire back there. Back up cam not only helps in parking lots, but you can see rocks and stumps on the trail.

I wouldn't go cheap if you think it means it is easier to work on, they all are computerized these days. What will the use be? Mainly street and some gravel roads? A sport would do fine. Not talking anything extreme but if your hitting trails or even fields to go hunting, lockers can help you out of trouble if your out there alone. I went with the "cry once" on this one, bit the bullet on the $$ once and have been very happy since.
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