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Old 10-29-2019, 07:18 PM
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Installing wheel well lights

Good evening- i have searched but i cant find any related hits on this subject.

I am planning on installing wheel well lights (rock lights?) and im trying to figure out the proper installation...

Should it be: 1 light per wheel well or 2 per wheel well?
If 1- is it positioned at the 12 o’clock position or should it be at the 2 o’clock for front wheel and 10 o’clock for rear wheel... (so the lights shine where the driver will be looking from) or
If 2- should they be positioned at the 10 and 2 o’clock position?
Am i thinking too hard on this and just put them wherever i want? Lol
I am planning on installing the apollointech and running the lights from there.

And i will be selecting a single color led instead of the colorchanging- and planning on amber to go with the yellow jeep... is this color ok or is there a better color when on the trails at night?
I also plan on installing 8 underbody lights (2 front/ 2 rear and 2 under each door) in amber as well.

Thanks for info and any feedback!

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So I can't help with install but designing things I love. The amber sounds very nice, but how about orange, red, or blue, either regular blue or turquoise?

The other day I was looking at a thread about accent colors for a black jeep and I got jealous because you can do so much with black. Mine is Sunburst Orange and until then I thought the only colors I could accent with were black, white, or silver. Then it dawned on me.... WHY NOT yellow, WHY NOT turquoise?? WHY NOT BE FUN?!?! Am I gonna do it? I don't know, I just thought this two days ago, but it's nice to know I have those options.

You obviously like color also to choose a yellow Jeep. If you want a more subdued, cleaner look, go with the amber, it will look great. Red would still give you some subduedness, while an orange would be some of a pop. If you really want to pop, regular blue will give you that. Turquoise will definitely be like an awesome scream. Green would scream too.

I'm curious as to what you think of my ideas. And keep us updated on what you choose and upload a pic when its done!
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And thank you, that's was fun! Can we chose you're WRANGLER hood decal next?
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Should it be: 1 light per wheel well or 2 per wheel well?
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Thanks for info and any feedback!



I think that 2 per wheel would be twice as cool as 1 per wheel. Seriously, that is your call and what your requirements are. It seems like it would be cheaper for 1/per, but lights and wires aren't that expensive when compared to other jeep stuff, so if you are really psyched to do it, then double is better. Also play it through, if you have some flashlights and duck tape you can stage it up and see what you like best. Of course it will be different with flush mounted lights, but might give you some ideas on where you want your light to shine.



Won't comment on color, that is a whole nother ball of wax.
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Here is mine with only one per wheel and then the rock lights underneath as well.
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Thanks all!
Dana Bratt- yellow is my color for vehicles lol
I like the idea of green! Maybe i should reconsider the color changing led’s. Then i can do whatever im in the mood for. Think outside the box! I like it!

Rockmtn- i also think the 2 would be nice but yeah cost is a factor. Dont really want to drop a couple hundred just for rock lights lol

Jaysong- thanks for the pics! That helps for sure. I can see yours are located at the 12 o’clock position right? How many lights are you running? 4 for the wheels and 4 underbody?

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Dana Bratt- yellow is my color for vehicles lol
I like the idea of green! Maybe i should reconsider the color changing led’s. Then i can do whatever im in the mood for. Think outside the box! I like it!

Rockmtn- i also think the 2 would be nice but yeah cost is a factor. Dont really want to drop a couple hundred just for rock lights lol

Jaysong- thanks for the pics! That helps for sure. I can see yours are located at the 12 o’clock position right? How many lights are you running? 4 for the wheels and 4 underbody?

Again, thanks everyone!
Yes, 12 o'clock and one under each door. The ones under the doors also double a courtesy lights when unlocking the doors (they come on whenever the dome light is on). Very fun mod. Use the courtesy lights everyday. People always tell me they did not know that Jeeps came with that option.
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I used one white light per wheel and I think I'm going to add one more per wheel, two under the front bumper and two under the rear. I used Lux LED lights because they have very strong magnets to hold them in place.


I put a green set inside for interior lighting. One under each side of the dash and one under each back seat. Green is my highlight color, that's why I picked green lights.
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FYI, the lights I used are cheap, bolted on and have held up well. They can be found here. I went with white. Been running them since Jan 2018. They have been underwater water, (Kane Creek Moab) and through the mud in MN and keep working.
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Shinny i was just looking at the Lux leds and they look nice. I was checking out the Oracle leds too. Thanks for the info!

Thanks jaysong! courtesy light mod would be nice but then the wifey would be jealous and i would have to light her jeep up too! Lol
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Shinny i was just looking at the Lux leds and they look nice. I was checking out the Oracle leds too. Thanks for the info!

Thanks jaysong! courtesy light mod would be nice but then the wifey would be jealous and i would have to light her jeep up too! Lol


I know what you mean about the wife’s Jeep. Fortunately, my wife just got a Cherokee when she traded her Rubicon. It gets expensive when you have two. Lol


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Shinny i was just looking at the Lux leds and they look nice. I was checking out the Oracle leds too. Thanks for the info!

Thanks jaysong! courtesy light mod would be nice but then the wifey would be jealous and i would have to light her jeep up too! Lol
What are your switch plans? Do you have other accessories to wire as well? Along with my cheap light I used this to eliminate the random zip ties relays under my hood (Off road light, rock light, wheel well light, front locker switch). Cleaned up my install and made it easy to wire everything including the courtesy lights. You may want to consider two, one for you an........
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Jaysong- i have asked Santa to bring me the apollointec 6switch pro for christmas!
I have my eyes on some 6” round kc’s for the A pillar and front bumper too.

Using the 6 switch will keep it all clean and nice.
So my ideas are:
Switch 1: bumper lights
Switch 2: a pillar lights
Switch 3: wheel well lights
Switch 4: underbody lights
Switch 5: back up lights
Switch 6: open for now
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Jaysong- i have asked Santa to bring me the apollointec 6switch pro for christmas!
I have my eyes on some 6” round kc’s for the A pillar and front bumper too.

Using the 6 switch will keep it all clean and nice.
So my ideas are:
Switch 1: bumper lights
Switch 2: a pillar lights
Switch 3: wheel well lights
Switch 4: underbody lights
Switch 5: back up lights
Switch 6: open for now


If Santa delivers. You’ll love it. I have the Apollotech Pro and it’s great. No complaints at all.


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I went with 2 per wheel and 2 under the doors. I have tried cheap lights and then eventually went to better lights due to the cheap ones not holding up.

When I had RGB's, I had them wired so that I could control the Red, Green and Blue segments individually. This way I could create any color. I mainly wanted red for night driving and to have white also. It just turned out to be a PITA with the cheap lights so I went white IP68 lights which I should have done first.
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Also play it through, if you have some flashlights and duck tape you can stage it up and see what you like best. Of course it will be different with flush mounted lights, but might give you some ideas on where you want your light to shine.
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Shinny i was just looking at the Lux leds and they look nice. I was checking out the Oracle leds too. Thanks for the info!

Thanks jaysong! courtesy light mod would be nice but then the wifey would be jealous and i would have to light her jeep up too! Lol
Hey! If you haven't made a choice yet, we'd love to make your decision easy with some info about our rock lights

We offer 4 and 8 piece RGB rock light kits, both with a choice of Bluetooth-only control or Bluetooth + a RF remote. The ColorSHIFT technology is really awesome, and the Bluetooth app allows you select single colors, strobing patterns, or even control with music! All the fanciness aside, these are bright and durable for trail use.

With the 4 piece kit, most people install them at 12 o'clock position in each wheel well. With the 8 piece kit, many do 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock OR one in each well, 1 on each side, and 1 on each bumper. We also just released magnet adapters that make installation SUPER easy!

Let us know if we can answer any questions, and you can use code "forum10" for 10% off your entire purchase!

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Hey! If you haven't made a choice yet, we'd love to make your decision easy with some info about our rock lights



We offer 4 and 8 piece RGB rock light kits, both with a choice of Bluetooth-only control or Bluetooth + a RF remote. The ColorSHIFT technology is really awesome, and the Bluetooth app allows you select single colors, strobing patterns, or even control with music! All the fanciness aside, these are bright and durable for trail use.



With the 4 piece kit, most people install them at 12 o'clock position in each wheel well. With the 8 piece kit, many do 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock OR one in each well, 1 on each side, and 1 on each bumper. We also just released magnet adapters that make installation SUPER easy!



Let us know if we can answer any questions, and you can use code "forum10" for 10% off your entire purchase!



In those sample pics, are those the 8 piece kit?

Does 2 in the wheel well get you that much light through the grille / engine bay? Or is that additional lighting.

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Well luckily you don't live in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. Here it is not legal to drive with under body lights of any kind.
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Well luckily you don't live in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. Here it is not legal to drive with under body lights of any kind.
It's illegal in most states. Even more so if they're emergency vehicle colored.

However, a lot of people use them off-road (rock lights), for show and for courtesy lights.

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Wheel well lighting

I used 2 pods per wheel. One at 10 and the other at 2 and it lights it up very well. I also installed 2 rock pods in the front and rear and 3 along each side at the frame. I also attached 6 strips behind the grill to light up the grill area
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@ScottDBrown - great pics, those look phenomenal. Instead of wheel lights I've been checking out these inner fender liners that light:

MAIKER Front Inner Fender Liners w/Light for 2007-2017 Jeep Wrangler JK 4WD Five Star logo Lightweight Aluminum Design Black
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@crawdaddyjc Since I helped you with your color dilemma, should I get the same star logo cutout for the rear (those don't light) or just a plain black? I'm thinking people might think there's a short in my wiring if the back ones aren't lighting. Maybe I just answered my own question.

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In those sample pics, are those the 8 piece kit?

Does 2 in the wheel well get you that much light through the grille / engine bay? Or is that additional lighting.

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That Jeep has an 8 piece kit and some grill lighting likely our RGB strips (you could really use any of these kits or have strip cut to your desire length)! You can install rock lights in the engine bay or under/behind the grill; the magnets make that easier too.


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Well luckily you don't live in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. Here it is not legal to drive with under body lights of any kind.
Most people only use them for off-roading or display at shows, especially to show off lift or wheel upgrades!

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No person shall mount or display any lighting device which does not comply with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations, 49 CFR Part 571, unless specifically allowed by M.G.L. c. 90, §7. Such prohibited devices shall include, but not be limited to, neon undercarriage lighting.

Apparently even if only installed for off road or show, it is still not legal here behind the wall that separates us from FREE AMERICA. Not sure how they would know and therefore pull you over but the way that they have tightened up on inspections especially dealing with lifts and tires that are wider than fenders, you might not be able to get a sticker.
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wow there has been some great discussion on this!
Oracle- i think you have made this decision much easier! thank you! @ScottDBrown - wow! great pics and thanks for the info! very impressed! @DanaBratt - those are sweet! i think since the rear ones dont light- i would just go with the plain black. please post pics after- i bet either way it will look amazing! @JSRIII - i am so sorry you cant have fun. its so stupid that you cant do what you want with your vehicle if you are not endangering yourself or others.

thanks everyone for all the feedback and info!
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No person shall mount or display any lighting device which does not comply with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations, 49 CFR Part 571, unless specifically allowed by M.G.L. c. 90, §7. Such prohibited devices shall include, but not be limited to, neon undercarriage lighting.

Apparently even if only installed for off road or show, it is still not legal here behind the wall that separates us from FREE AMERICA. Not sure how they would know and therefore pull you over but the way that they have tightened up on inspections especially dealing with lifts and tires that are wider than fenders, you might not be able to get a sticker.
Laws are made to protect people from stupid/selfish people. For every person that installs pink Disney lights under their Jeep for shows or white to see what the F they've broken on that big rock, there are 20 that are burning their neon on the streets.
Disney lights confuse the already drug-addled and distracted drivers around you and cause problems.
I wish there was more enforcement here in GA. But our LEOs don't have the manpower. I see nitwits rocking their pink/green/purple/blue/red halos and under-carriage lights every day on the road.

It's illegal to run them on the road everywhere in North America. States are allowed to make the statutes tougher if they want, like making it illegal to mount them ---- their thinking is that if it can be used illegally, it will be.
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@Hilldweller - you are right. Here in Ga i see red, blue, green; every color halo on vehicles. I do have an issue with that since red/blue are a big time no no. But undercarriage or wheel well lights dont bother me. I had them on my motorcycle.

My op was for night time trail runs but for every one of us who will use them properly- there are multiples who wont.
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@Hilldweller - you are right. Here in Ga i see red, blue, green; every color halo on vehicles. I do have an issue with that since red/blue are a big time no no. But undercarriage or wheel well lights dont bother me. I had them on my motorcycle.

My op was for night time trail runs but for every one of us who will use them properly- there are multiples who wont.
Then get white or selective yellow. Both would work well.
Selective yellow doesn't have the CRI (color rendering index) of white but could be beneficial in fog/rain or at reducing perceived glare.
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My fear is that light bars might be next. They can't be used on the road and are only supposed to be used off road. If they take the same tact as they have with under body lights or wheel well lights then light bars could be outlawed.
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My fear is that light bars might be next. They can't be used on the road and are only supposed to be used off road. If they take the same tact as they have with under body lights or wheel well lights then light bars could be outlawed.
Well, actually they are outlawed, many of them. Enforced sporadically.

I have a friend that's a cop and he knows lighting law ---- he only nails people that are abusing things. But, if you're cruising through his jurisdiction, I wouldn't push his buttons. You'll go to the pokey.

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