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Old 04-08-2019, 07:43 PM
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Is there shame in a body lift vs suspension lift?

Hi all. I'm just reaching out because the man of the house and I are in deep debate over this. My vehicular soulmate is my DD and the guy who shares my bed says a 2" body lift would look really awesome and wouldn't sacrifice handling. Since my off-roading life is minimal compared to my daily work travel, I would prefer to keep the handling as it is. But...is that shameful?

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Personally I'm OK with an inch, 2" not so much. More so if you're running stock fenders/bumpers.

Your rig though, do as you see fit
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Personally I'm OK with an inch, 2" not so much. More so if you're running stock fenders/bumpers.

Your rig though, do as you see fit [IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.wranglerforum.com/../images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Hmm. Why? Is it a look kind of thing? I am running stock fenders/bumpers and (according to the husband) I will be getting bigger tires in the near future. I have 17's on it right now.
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Best thing I've ever done to any of my jeeps is a body lift! Haters are gonna hate, but jeeps rust, and body lifts make rust prevention easy. My 91 is mint, no rust ever, and never will, because I can clean, paint and maintain everything soooooo much easier.
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Best thing I've ever done to any of my jeeps is a body lift! Haters are gonna hate, but jeeps rust, and body lifts make rust prevention easy. My 91 is mint, no rust ever, and never will, because I can clean, paint and maintain everything soooooo much easier.
Ok, I like that answer. One point to the body lift team. Mine's not a rust bucket yet and I'd like to keep it that way.
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I would prefer to keep the handling as it is

Good thinking, body lifts are less compelling for JKs. Body lifts are really for older jeeps, like TJs, where they make it easier to lift the driveline.


A JK will take 35" tires without any lift (if you change the flares).


A spring upgrade might be nice, but you'll have to mix and match parts, because the aftermarket is focused on lift instead of upgrade.
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But...is that shameful?
No. It's smart.


If you don't need to mess around with a suspension lift, then you shouldn't. Suspension lifts, no matter how small, change the vehicle's handling characteristics..... and more often than not.... for the worse. If you want to lift for bigger wheel or even just for looks then a body lift is the safest route.
It's fast, it's cheap, and it maintains the factory angles.
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I would prefer to keep the handling as it is

Good thinking, body lifts are less compelling for JKs. Body lifts are really for older jeeps, like TJs, where they make it easier to lift the driveline.


A JK will take 35" tires without any lift (if you change the flares).


A spring upgrade might be nice, but you'll have to mix and match parts, because the aftermarket is focused on lift instead of upgrade.
You guys are so awesome! I guess we're looking at 33.5 or 34's for tires. Good to know about the 35's as well as the possible issues with the body lift. The squeeze had a CJ7 in his youth so he's going off past experience. TY!
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I believe the Goodrich KO2 in 34X10.5R17 will tuck inside the factory flares. Larger tires would require different flares.
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But...is that shameful?
No. It's smart.


If you don't need to mess around with a suspension lift, then you shouldn't. Suspension lifts, no matter how small, change the vehicle's handling characteristics..... and more often than not.... for the worse. If you want to lift for bigger wheel or even just for looks then a body lift is the safest route.
It's fast, it's cheap, and it maintains the factory angles.
Another point to body lift. I'm getting the sense that a body lift isn't necessarily shameful but sensible. Like having a job to pay for it. Having a suspension lift is more for those who can afford a steady diet of off-roading.
I can afford the occasional snowbank climb and a romp in the muddy back 40 so long as I can get to work on Monday.
Is that about right?
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I believe the Goodrich KO2 in 34X10.5R17 will tuck inside the factory flares. Larger tires would require different flares.
Duly noted! Thank you!
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Are you sure your even went a lift of any kind? I just traded my 2 door for a 4 door. I’ve been using the same 33s on both with no lift. I off-road every chance I get, but I don’t crawl. I’ve had zero issues with either JK or JKU, unless I disconnect the Then I get rubbing in front.

I think a 2 door with no lift and 33-34 inch tires is just bout the best looking JK. You could invest in a lot of cool stuff for the price. That said, lifts look great too!
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I’ve had zero issues with either JK or JKU, unless I disconnect the swaybars.Then I get rubbing in front.
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I think a 2 door with no lift and 33-34 inch tires is just bout the best looking JK. You could invest in a lot of cool stuff for the price. That said, lifts look great too!
Ok, it's times like these when I curse my ovaries. I read your post to the squeeze and he said, "yeah but we want the lift too". I had to ask, cuz, well... I had to, " but why? If the tires will do it then why bother with a lift?" Here's his answer, "Because it looks cool!"
I'm thinking this is why I dye my hair...
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I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy or anything but a 2" body lift is going to leave a considerable and obvious gap between the frame and the body. If you like the gap look then cool but it would bother me...

On my old 1987 YJ I think I had a 1" body and a 2" add a leaf. (maybe vice-versa) The gap was pretty noticeable.....

I think I also needed to drop the transfer case and the radiator shroud (prob not needed on the JK - don't know)....

Good luck whatever you decide...
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What we want,.....what we really, really want is for the jeep to look level.
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Hmm. Why? Is it a look kind of thing? I am running stock fenders/bumpers and (according to the husband) I will be getting bigger tires in the near future. I have 17's on it right now.
Here's a 1.75" body lift on a JK, notice the big gaps where I circled in red? That's why I'm not a fan of anything over an inch.

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No to body lift. A Teraflex leveling kit is the way to go.
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Hmm. Why? Is it a look kind of thing? I am running stock fenders/bumpers and (according to the husband) I will be getting bigger tires in the near future. I have 17's on it right now.
Here's a 1.75" body lift on a JK, notice the big gaps where I circled in red? That's why I'm not a fan of anything over an inch.

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Yep, that looks a little goofy. Hmmm. Not sure if that means suspension gets the point or not.
I'm gonna drop the point system right now.
I'm really enjoying this.
What's up with leveling the Jeep?
Again, I have ovaries so bare with me. Is the lower front end really that uncool? I never really ever noticed it enuf for it to bug me.
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Here is a 1.25” body lift. With a 2.5” suspension lift.


And here is the 1.25” body lift with 3.5” suspension 37” tires and flat fenders.



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Ok, it's times like these when I curse my ovaries. I read your post to the squeeze and he said, "yeah but we want the lift too". I had to ask, cuz, well... I had to, " but why? If the tires will do it then why bother with a lift?" Here's his answer, "Because it looks cool!"
I'm thinking this is why I dye my hair...


Because he wants your Jeep to look like this.




BTW this is 3.5” lift with 35” tires, No body lift .. it is also an 2009 with the older motor so there is no issue with driveshaft hitting the exhaust.
2012 and up require exhaust spacers with any more then 2.5” suspension lift so if you do 2.5” suspension lift + 1.25” body lift you get a total of 3 3/4” lift without exhaust/driveshaft issues.


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Before I leveled my jeep, the other kids called me "stink bug".
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Here's a pic of mine with a 2 inch Mopar lift.
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Body lifts are more of an older Jeep thing. That is likely why he thinks that is the way to go.
As mentioned, you can fit pretty big tires under a JK without any lift. And if you want better looks, a leveling kit will give you that.
Another aspect to lifts is, while a cheap lift poorly installed can make your Jeep drive worse than stock a quality lift properly installed can make your Jeep drive better than stock.
If you just want bigger tires, install them. Perhaps add a leveling kit. Or add a quality 2" - 2.5" lift like The Most Popular Lift on the Wrangler Forum,
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f202/m...f-1136938.html
or an AEV 2" lift or 2.5" lift, or the Mopar 2" lift (which is really a 2.5" lift)
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/m...ks-972321.html
or maybe the Rancho 2" lift
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/r...s-2096081.html
All of these options, if properly installed with the right parts added where required, can make your JK drive better than stock. A body lift can't do that.
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That's the real way to do it.... a smallish suspension lift with a smallish body lift.


I did a 3" TF suspension lift with a 1.25" body lift, and with the 34" wheels that gives me a grand total of about 5 inches of lift. Because that 5 inches is spread out, nothing looks too far out of whack



I threw my wife (5' 4") into the pic for proportion. She said she doesn't like being used


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Anything in excess of an inch in body lift starts to look goofy. The Teraflex spacer leveling kit is crazy cheap and will perform a lot better. Better yet, the Rancho 2" Sport system (which has a rebate right now) will perform even better and is still very affordable.
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That's the real way to do it.... a smallish suspension lift with a smallish body lift.


I did a 3" TF suspension lift with a 1.25" body lift, and with the 34" wheels that gives me a grand total of about 5 inches of lift. Because that 5 inches is spread out, nothing looks too far out of whack



I threw my wife (5' 4") into the pic for proportion. She said she doesn't like being used


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Most people that hate on body lifts have never seen a properly installed lift. They don't like them because they've only seen some moron make one out of steel tubing, hockey pucks or wood blocks.
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Most people that hate on body lifts have never seen a properly installed lift. They don't like them because they've only seen some moron make one out of steel tubing, hockey pucks or wood blocks.
I don't think that's even remotely close to true.. Most don't like them because of the gap they leave between the frame and the body. 2" is a very noticeable gap...
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I don't think that's even remotely close to true.. Most don't like them because of the gap they leave between the frame and the body. 2" is a very noticeable gap...



Exactly. "Properly installed" means addressing things like raising the bumpers, installing "gap guards" (on pickups), raising tailpipe, or relocating towhooks, etc.

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