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Old 12-30-2019, 10:20 AM
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Is this normal? Sway bar loose

We always wondered why the car moves from side to size, just pushing the jeep with minimal force sways the jeep pretty hard

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What should I torque the sway bar to? Should I get new hardware?



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That’s the rear track bar, 125ftlbs
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Old 12-30-2019, 10:32 AM   #3
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And no that is not normal at all.
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Old 12-30-2019, 10:48 AM   #4
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We always wondered why the car moves from side to size, just pushing the jeep with minimal force sways the jeep pretty hard

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What should I torque the sway bar to? Should I get new hardware?



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You might need something like this above now. I think the bolt hole is elongated. You need to take the bolt out and check, a competent welder could fix it also.
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You might need something like this above now. I think the bolt hole is elongated. You need to take the bolt out and check, a competent welder could fix it also.
Crap, it's welded to the frame. You think a welder can fill the hole and drill a new one in?

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Looks like the end of the track bar bolt took a beating on your bump stop.
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Looks like the end of the track bar bolt took a beating on your bump stop.
Yes it did, def the root cause. I'm underneath now, trackbar is loose as hell.

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Crap, it's welded to the frame. You think a welder can fill the hole and drill a new one in?

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Definitely, or weld a washer on either side to true up the hole, but if you read the description of the part I noted it sounds like the perfect solution, that you can do yourself and it seems like it will be stronger. Welding isn't inexpensive unless you do it yourself or know someone.
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ditch that bumpstop. that is a bad design.
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The bolt and bolt pattern appears to be different than the other side of the track bar where it meets on the axle. Should both bolts be identical? It doesnt even have a washer like the other side that appears to be more OEM



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Realized even the oem size is wrong. The nut and washer is not oem. Fricken 4WP

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Realized even the oem size is wrong. The nut and washer is not oem. Fricken 4WP

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Stay away from 4WP. At least stay away from letting them install anything.
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Is this too much play for the stock oem bolt? (Went to dealership to get proper bolt and nut)

I got a welder lined up to come out and weld a grade H washer, pending the internets response



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Is this too much play for the stock oem bolt? (Went to dealership to get proper bolt and nut)

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that should be fine but you need to torq it to 125 ft/lbs.
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It appears that the bump stop has taken a hell of a beating. Looks bent and dented if I am looking at the right part?????
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It appears that the bump stop has taken a hell of a beating. Looks bent and dented if I am looking at the right part?????
Yep, I removed it so it'sits no longer there. It did take a beat down.

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that should be fine but you need to torq it to 125 ft/lbs.
Done deal. Feels so much better, this entire time I thought it was just part of the ride from a lift but now it feels sturdy and doesnt make any more noises. Incredible what a loose bolt can do.

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Done deal. Feels so much better, this entire time I thought it was just part of the ride from a lift but now it feels sturdy and doesnt make any more noises. Incredible what a loose bolt can do.

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Well of course it does. It’s kind of an important part.
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Done deal. Feels so much better, this entire time I thought it was just part of the ride from a lift but now it feels sturdy and doesnt make any more noises. Incredible what a loose bolt can do.

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now go over every other bolt and nut with the torq wrench. I have often found poeple have loose front track bar bolts and control arm bolts. They loosen up over time.
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The holes for the tracks bars (TB) are 9/16” while the factory bolts are 14mm. This creates a small clearance issue. The other issue is the factory bolts are completely threaded to the head. The threads come into contact with the metal sleeve in the bushing

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now go over every other bolt and nut with the torq wrench. I have often found poeple have loose front track bar bolts and control arm bolts. They loosen up over time.
Will do, I had to remove the wheel to torque this one down. I should have done that to the rest when I was rotating

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The holes for the tracks bars (TB) are 9/16” while the factory bolts are 14mm. This creates a small clearance issue. The other issue is the factory bolts are completely threaded to the head. The threads come into contact with the metal sleeve in the bushing

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Thanks for this, ordered!

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Check the torque on your front trackbar bolts while you're at it.

If it's loose, you could get...
Death Wobble!
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Can't even imagine if there was that much play in the front trackbar.

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