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Old 01-20-2014, 07:35 AM
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JK: Fog Light Removal

The search feature didn't offer much, so what's the easiest route to take in terms of gaining access when removing and replacing the stock fog lights?

I've seen a video on youtube that specifies removing the air dam thingy under the bumper, but can you also get there by removing the grille and the plastic piece that sits on top between the grille and bumper?

I've got some Inspired fogs on the way, and it's too damn cold up here to be messing around unnecessarily.....

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Old 01-20-2014, 07:49 AM   #2
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Removing the air dam would be the easier way to go.

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X2, it's a half dozen push pins. Just insert a flathead screwdriver in from the side of center piece, pull up half an inch and whole pin should release.
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Are you replacing the bulbs only - or the whole assembly? When I replaced my stock assemblies with the VisionX kit - I couldn't find any gaps big enough to actually remove the OE fog light assemblies out from the vehicle. I had to take the bumper off (which is easier than you might think) in order to change them.

If you're doing just bulbs - then pull the 6 body panel clip thingys out of the air dam and just reach up and twist the bulbs out.

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You will see it is easier to remove bumper to install the inspired s. Just 4 bolts on each side and it's off. We installed on a friends with bumper on and eventually pulled it off to make install easier. U have to push them flush against bumper then tighten down the sides.
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You will see it is easier to remove bumper to install the inspired s. Just 4 bolts on each side and it's off. We installed on a friends with bumper on and eventually pulled it off to make install easier. U have to push them flush against bumper then tighten down the sides.
Good to know - might be more of a project than I thought in the arctic cold.....
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Take the plastic skidplate off as stated. On top of bumper remove the piece of plastic in between grill and bumper slide it out of the way. Then you can reach right in and switch out your foglights. I installed a set of JW 6145 last week on my wife's 13jku.
You do not need to take off the bumper.
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that piece of plastic between the bumper and grille can be harder to remove than the whole bumper FYI (thanks to those wonderfully useless Phillips head plastic screws)
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that piece of plastic between the bumper and grille can be harder to remove than the whole bumper FYI (thanks to those wonderfully useless Phillips head plastic screws)
Just stating the way I did it and had no issues. I agree the screws are not the best design they are not hard to remove if you take your time and do it gently. I guess I was just lucky huh.
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Is there a trick for removing those damn screws they just spin?
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I had to resort to a trim removal tool and brute force to remove the piece between the grille and bumper.

Not sure why they chose to use an allegedly removable fastener that really can't be removed, mine just spun when I tried to unscrew them.
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Here is the method I use to remove the plastic screws. Using a Philips head and a flat head gently turn the plastic screw while carefully prying upward with the flat head. Once you strip the head completely out with the Philips head, pry a little hard with the flat head until you can get a grip on something with a good pair of pliers. Once you can grip it with the pliers, rip the effers out and throw them away.
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I have a 13 also. Once the wires are removed from the bulb do you just turn the bulb out or is there a trick. I have an aftermarket bumper so access isn't terrible but I don't want to crack anything when I try and replace the bulbs.
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There's no need to remove the bumper or the piece of plastic between the grille and bumper. There's plenty of room to crawl under the Jeep and reach up to replace the bulbs.
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Old thread... but I can't get the dang fog lights out from under the Jeep. On a 15 sport, you have to remove the top plastic between the bumper and the grille or the bumper itself? The plastic fasteners are going to have to be drilled to come out, and don't know where I can get new ones.
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I found replacements ar OReilys auto parts. It was labeled for a GM vehicle but was the same size. Just take one of the old ones with you to make sure.
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There's no need to remove the bumper or the piece of plastic between the grille and bumper. There's plenty of room to crawl under the Jeep and reach up to replace the bulbs.
I don't know if you still need this info but the bulb housing removed easily by squeezing the two outside tabs and pull straight back.
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Old thread... but I can't get the dang fog lights out from under the Jeep. On a 15 sport, you have to remove the top plastic between the bumper and the grille or the bumper itself? The plastic fasteners are going to have to be drilled to come out, and don't know where I can get new ones.
Hey,
I am having the same issue I think I am going to drill out the old plastic screws I have already destroyed them trying to get them out.

I picked up a pack of 25 from clipsandfasteners.com it's Part number 6502625

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To remove those plastic screws use a drywall screw and screw it into the center of the plastic screw just enough so it doesn't pull out. Then just pull straight up on the screw and the plastic screw will pull right out.
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I've been looking at getting a set of new LED fogs, but dont want to be in over my head with changing them. Doesn't seem to be much for instructions out there on how to remove them other than people saying how THEY changed them, which seems there are a lot of different ways.
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I've been looking at getting a set of new LED fogs, but dont want to be in over my head with changing them. Doesn't seem to be much for instructions out there on how to remove them other than people saying how THEY changed them, which seems there are a lot of different ways.
Just remove the plastic piece that's between the bumper and grill. You can reach right in to access them. 4 Phillips head screws hold each housing onto the bumper. Super easy.
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Hey,
I am having the same issue I think I am going to drill out the old plastic screws I have already destroyed them trying to get them out.

I picked up a pack of 25 from clipsandfasteners.com it's Part number 6502625

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Take the grill guard out (piece between bumper and grill). Thats how i swapped mine out with LEDs. Awkward angle at some points due to having to work with your head sideways or upside down, but overall pretty easy.

The hardest part was removing the trim piece. There is two trim push pins with plastic screws in the middle. You don't need the screw. Take a flat head screwdriver and pound it into the screw then unscrew it. Pull up on the trim piece and its out.

I used my hand to find that screw heads for the assembly then guided the philips screw driver.
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To remove those plastic screws use a drywall screw and screw it into the center of the plastic screw just enough so it doesn't pull out. Then just pull straight up on the screw and the plastic screw will pull right out.
Wanted to throw out a thank you for this sound advice, I as well was stuck as to how to get the fog lights out of my 2015 willys, there are videos of people actually removing steering components ! I thought those damn plastic bolts were a lost cause, but just took a drywall screw like you said, stuck it in and bam job done. I made sure not to go to deep so i could toss them back in again which worked like a charm. Thanks fellow Jeeper you saved me some time and aggravation today for sure
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Thx for the tip.. I plan on changing my fog light bulbs out for LED's this weekend.
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Easy Access to Remove Fog Lights

So I was trying to install the JW Speaker Fogs and having troubles too - got all the clips out of the underside brush guard; removed the fog light housing from the bumper; but couldn't find a way to get the housing out of the space. Removing the bumper was more trouble because of difficult access to the rear of the bolts. I really wanted to remove the black plastic trim piece behind the top edge of the bumper but I couldn't get the plastic phillips-head screws to turn. After trying long enough to get angry I decided to take a risk on destroying them. Fortunately the removal worked and they were reusable. Here is what I did....after stripping out the plastic screw heads...

1) I used a 1/8" drill bit to drill STRAIGHT down into the plastic screws. Only go about 1" deep.

2) I gently screwed in a wood screw (3/4" x #8) about 1/2 of the way into the plastic screw (see pic).


3) I used a body panel puller (from the auto parts store) to pull on the wood screw and remove the plastic screw with it (see pic).
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...o/IMG_3466.jpg

4) I removed the grille pins - use a trim puller to remove the lock pins at the top (see pic). I bought a set of these trim pullers from BavAuto.com a while back but they're probably sold other places too.
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...o/IMG_3467.jpg

5) I gently pulled the bottom edge of the grille STRAIGHT out of the frame - don't bend and break the snap clips. Twist to remove the running light bulb holder and set the grille aside.

6) Shove the bumper trim piece forward and lift the back edge out.

7) Replace the fog lights (separate process).

8) Reassemble in reverse order. Now your plastic screws in the bumper top trim piece are a bit buggered up but it's not really noticeable... take a look...go buy new ones if it really bothers you.
http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/...o/IMG_3468.jpg

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Thanks to everybody here for their suggestions. I did mostly what CRich5 (Post #26 and 27) for the Splash thing under the bumper except I didn't drill into the screw, I just screwed a wood screw in the Phillips head since I wasn't worried about damaging the head, it's already been determined they're useless.

As the wood screw sat in the plastic screw I pulled it out with a pair of pliers leaving the larger piece still in the hole. With the plastic screw out the other piece pulled out easily. There was no fighting it or brute force involved.

When I got done replacing my fog lights with LED's everything popped right back into place. So far so good that I don't have a flicker issue, keeping my fingers crossed.
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I picked up a pack of 25 from clipsandfasteners.com it's Part number 6502625
Just wondering... as we know it's unless to try and unscrew the factory ones out. Did the replacements you bought actually unscrew back out?
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Just wondering... as we know it's unless to try and unscrew the factory ones out. Did the replacements you bought actually unscrew back out?
You quoted a 3 year old post, so you might not get a response.

Anyway, yes, the clips mentioned above screw back in. You can find ones that don't.
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