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Old 10-17-2018, 08:05 PM   #841
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According to iSeeCars.com, a company that tracks the car market, nothing on (or off) the road fights depreciation like the Jeep Wrangler. After more than five years of regular ownership, the Wrangler (and Wrangler Unlimited) depreciate just 27.3 percent. If that sounds high, keep in mind that the average car depreciates 50.2 percent over the same five-year span. In case you were wondering, the Nissan Leaf depreciates the most, losing an astonishing 71.7 percent of its value.

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Chrysler has informed me that they WILL be repairing the vehicle under warranty, they WILL be covering my rental, and they WILL be sending the hood latches off to the lab for testing. They have also shared the info with their Canadian team and I hope that the Canadian team will reach out to the other fellow who had this happen ASAP. Special thanks to the Vehicle Line Executive for Wrangler who cares about our safety and was responsible for making this happen. This gentleman should receive a safety award and a promotion from Chrysler for doing the right thing and we all owe him a lot of appreciation. On the other hand, Special Investigations at Chrysler is a joke, and I feel terrible for anyone who has to submit to them with any issues moving forward. They refused to properly investigate a VERY OBVIOUS safety issue which occurred twice on the same model car.
Holy smokes...what an ordeal. Great work!
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As to hood latch failure, I have experienced major league hood flutter on my 2017 JKUS in high crosswinds and was planning another trip across South Dakota so I decided to just replace the hood latches. Went with the Drake dog-bones and made my trip without so much as a tremor in the hood driving in 40-50 mph crosswinds and big truck encounters. I will say that when I removed the hood latches to install the Drakes, one of the stock hood bungie cords was partially torn on the bottom. Dodged that bullet. Pitched the stockers.

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Again, if there is any question or any hesitation - just go with the JL latches. They are solid and snap into place well. Always possible one could fail but it wouldn't be because a rubber band clasp went out
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Bolt locking hood latch. Not to expensive, eliminates flutter, codes to your ignition key, and gives some piece of mind that a crook cant easily access stuff under your hood. IMO great JEEP mod.
I have a Bolt and while it gave me a little reassurance it didnt eliminate hood flutter. I replaced my JK latches with JL latches yesterday. Zero point Zero flutter today! I didnt mark these as I removed them, so no idea which is which but there are some obvious signs that could lead to failure. This is a 2017 JKU with 42k miles. My hood has fluttered from day one. Not any more.

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Chrysler has informed me that they WILL be repairing the vehicle under warranty, they WILL be covering my rental, and they WILL be sending the hood latches off to the lab for testing. They have also shared the info with their Canadian team and I hope that the Canadian team will reach out to the other fellow who had this happen ASAP. Special thanks to the Vehicle Line Executive for Wrangler who cares about our safety and was responsible for making this happen. This gentleman should receive a safety award and a promotion from Chrysler for doing the right thing and we all owe him a lot of appreciation. On the other hand, Special Investigations at Chrysler is a joke, and I feel terrible for anyone who has to submit to them with any issues moving forward. They refused to properly investigate a VERY OBVIOUS safety issue which occurred twice on the same model car.
At the time you wrote this, it was twice. Now 3 confirmed times. How many Wrangler drivers do not watch or post on this forum? How many just let their insurance fix it and don't even try to have FCA take responsibility for a defective part??? Now with 3 confirmed cases on JK's, I'll bet there is 20 that we don't know about. It's just a matter of time that every Wrangler JK's with stock hood latches will have a problems. Someday, somebody's going to get hurt, BAD!!! This needs to be a recall, asap. Just the fact that they are fixing your jeep under warranty, EVERYBODY needs to get their JK's into the dealer ASAP and DEMAND they replace the hood latches with the Daystar ones. Take all the appropriate case numbers to prove they are responsible and have them "put it in writing with the General Managers signature on it" if they REFUSE to replace them. AMMO for our lawyers. There will be a recall so fast it will make your head swim.
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At the time you wrote this, it was twice. Now 3 confirmed times. How many Wrangler drivers do not watch or post on this forum? How many just let their insurance fix it and don't even try to have FCA take responsibility for a defective part??? Now with 3 confirmed cases on JK's, I'll bet there is 20 that we don't know about. It's just a matter of time that every Wrangler JK's with stock hood latches will have a problems. Someday, somebody's going to get hurt, BAD!!! This needs to be a recall, asap. Just the fact that they are fixing your jeep under warranty, EVERYBODY needs to get their JK's into the dealer ASAP and DEMAND they replace the hood latches with the Daystar ones. Take all the appropriate case numbers to prove they are responsible and have them "put it in writing with the General Managers signature on it" if they REFUSE to replace them. AMMO for our lawyers. There will be a recall so fast it will make your head swim.

I want to start off by saying I do agree with your overall opinion on this, but I think you are greatly exaggerating the situation. I do definitely think this is a huge safety concern and Chrysler should recall them and should certainly not be refusing warranty claims on the ones that have failed. However, saying "every JK with stock hood latches" will fail, is an extreme statement. They have been using the same design throughout the life of the JK and while there have been failures (still too many) it is not in enough numbers to say they are all failing...Also "There will be a recall so fast it will make your head swim" made me chuckle. Again I think they should issue a recall, but considering the age of the JKs and how long people have noted issues with the latch, the speed of the recall is already far past the level of fast in any sense.

Unfortunately, I think that until somebody actually gets seriously hurt and an investigation proves the hood latches failed and caused it, nothing will be done. I think at that point a recall will cost FCA a ton of money when they should have redesigned the latches (or atleast improved quality control to make sure everything is within spec) years ago.

I am not trying to be offensive just stating my $.02
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For the OP: would you mind posting your VIN on here? Or at least the last 3 or 4 digits? It might be helpful for guys that have a model built within a few hundred or even a thousand of your VIN...they could go and scrutinize their latches as maybe a bad batch came through production?
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I want to start off by saying I do agree with your overall opinion on this, but I think you are greatly exaggerating the situation. I do definitely think this is a huge safety concern and Chrysler should recall them and should certainly not be refusing warranty claims on the ones that have failed. However, saying "every JK with stock hood latches" will fail, is an extreme statement. They have been using the same design throughout the life of the JK and while there have been failures (still too many) it is not in enough numbers to say they are all failing...Also "There will be a recall so fast it will make your head swim" made me chuckle. Again I think they should issue a recall, but considering the age of the JKs and how long people have noted issues with the latch, the speed of the recall is already far past the level of fast in any sense.

Unfortunately, I think that until somebody actually gets seriously hurt and an investigation proves the hood latches failed and caused it, nothing will be done. I think at that point a recall will cost FCA a ton of money when they should have redesigned the latches (or atleast improved quality control to make sure everything is within spec) years ago.

I am not trying to be offensive just stating my $.02
You are 100% correct. It is maybe a little TOO EXTREME. I should have worded it "CAN FAIL, under the same circumstances" Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I stand corrected. AND as for the speed of the needed recall for these hood latches, it has 100% to do with how many wrangler owners bring their rigs in to the dealerships. If 100% of us hit our respective stealerships within a month, what can they do except fold on their cards. They have admitted they are at fault in covering the repairs AND redesigning the JL's latches to NOT have any rubber in them. If 1 or 2 of us go in, nothing will happen. If 98% do, things will happen. Just MY $0.02 worth.
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Well, I replaced mine with RR within a year or two of ownership when I read an earlier thread so I guess I’ll never know if it would have failed.
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You are 100% correct. It is maybe a little TOO EXTREME. I should have worded it "CAN FAIL, under the same circumstances" Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I stand corrected. AND as for the speed of the needed recall for these hood latches, it has 100% to do with how many wrangler owners bring their rigs in to the dealerships. If 100% of us hit our respective stealerships within a month, what can they do except fold on their cards. They have admitted they are at fault in covering the repairs AND redesigning the JL's latches to NOT have any rubber in them. If 1 or 2 of us go in, nothing will happen. If 98% do, things will happen. Just MY $0.02 worth.
It just seems like Chrysler doesn't want to admit there is an issue (which there certainly is). I read the thread on here where the gentlemen got denied and jumped through a bunch of hoops, after his did fail and his hood flew up and smashed his windshield. It is really ridiculous that FCA hasn't stepped up. My brother pointed out my hood flutter soon after I bought my Recon (which supposedly is supposed to have less of an issue with the vented hood) and now it freaks me out whenever I am on the highway. Personally, I am not going to wait for Chrysler to fix it and I have a set of RR latches waiting to be installed. It is a cheap enough mod to give myself piece of mind. I will let the failures that open Chrysler's eyes happen to someone elses Jeep.
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It just seems like Chrysler doesn't want to admit there is an issue (which there certainly is). I read the thread on here where the gentlemen got denied and jumped through a bunch of hoops, after his did fail and his hood flew up and smashed his windshield. It is really ridiculous that FCA hasn't stepped up. My brother pointed out my hood flutter soon after I bought my Recon (which supposedly is supposed to have less of an issue with the vented hood) and now it freaks me out whenever I am on the highway. Personally, I am not going to wait for Chrysler to fix it and I have a set of RR latches waiting to be installed. It is a cheap enough mod to give myself piece of mind. I will let the failures that open Chrysler's eyes happen to someone elses Jeep.
Both my heeps have Rampage locking hood latches. It is SOOOOO much less stressful not worrying about which truck or RV is going to cause the hood to fly up. Each and every drive I take now is almost (ALMOST) stress free. All I think about now is rocks flying up and hitting the windshield. BUT I do not stress about this. I just take every precaution to lessen the likelihood of it happening by driving as safely as I can. If it happens, it happens. NOT going crash over a rock cracking my windshield.
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Well, I replaced mine with RR within a year or two of ownership when I read an earlier thread so I guess I’ll never know if it would have failed.
^^^^^^what he said. I wish the JL lathes would have come with my 2016 HR but they didn't. Neither did the 3.5 lift and 35" inch tires etc. that I am about to put on it . The point is.......instead of blaming Jeep when these fail, just swap them out for some that won't.
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For the OP: would you mind posting your VIN on here? Or at least the last 3 or 4 digits? It might be helpful for guys that have a model built within a few hundred or even a thousand of your VIN...they could go and scrutinize their latches as maybe a bad batch came through production?
I think this is a good idea. The fact that the latches "have been this design for years" does not mean they didn't get a bad lot of them from the supplier.
I put the JL latches on mine, and it eliminated all flutter, so I no longer have to worry about it. I will check back in on this thread from time to time to see if there has been any development.

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My hood nearly came off coming back from Ouray Colorado back to Texas I would highly recommend that you replace your latch if you haven't already 24.00 Daystar fix may save your life...I have a 2016 Rubicon HD
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Hey man, welcome to the forum. I can't speak directly to the locking side latches but I went with the JL hood latches and would do it again in a heartbeat. If I felt the need to lock my hood - I would get a lock for the front of the hood not the 2 sides, but that's just me. Hope that helps in some way.
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I installed the Drake Locking Side Latches on my '17 Sport S, last week. I also installed the Rugged Ridge Body Armor hood guard at the same time. They were simple to install, and everything lined up great. One neat thing about these locks is the turnbuckle concept of adjustment. Super functional and look fantastic. I also installed the AFE Momentum Force Air Intake System.
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I installed the Drake Locking Side Latches on my '17 Sport S, last week. I also installed the Rugged Ridge Body Armor hood guard at the same time. They were simple to install, and everything lined up great. One neat thing about these locks is the turnbuckle concept of adjustment. Super functional and look fantastic. I also installed the AFE Momentum Force Air Intake System.


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Be careful with the keys, there is another thread on here of a member who lost both keys to his Drake locking latches. Their customer response had been under whelming from his post. He is looking at having to cut them off.
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Sorry to hear all of this.

I drive CA-14 quite a bit, since it's the gateway to the eastern Sierras from CA-58 and the valley west of there. It can be windy, very strong winds. After experiencing flutter at 70 MPH on I-5 up near Redding I opted to replace my stock latches with the Rugged Ridge hood latches, which are buckled down tight, with no flutter, even in some of the strongest winds the Mojave could throw at me.

FCA test their vehicles for collision, traction, handling, but I expect they never see the inside of a wind tunnel. To be blunt the Jeep Wrangler is an anachronism, it harkens back to an era where function at low speed (less than 55 MPH) was the norm. It's still got the same areodynamics of its predecessors. With a little work and a few $$ these things can be overcome, but air dams and such probably mess with OHV driving.
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For those of you that switched to the JL latches. What makes you think they are that much better of the JK latch? I'm not knocking your decision as I think they look nice just wondering the though behind it?
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For those of you that switched to the JL latches. What makes you think they are that much better of the JK latch? I'm not knocking your decision as I think they look nice just wondering the though behind it?
Well for starters, the latch is metal...
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Well for starters, the latch is metal...
Thanks, I actually didn't realize that. Just looked up the Mopar part to review it. For some reason I though it was a rubber type material similar to whats on our JK's already.

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Thanks, I actually didn't realize that. Just looked up the Mopar part to review it. For some reason I though it was a rubber type material similar to whats on our JK's already.

My bad..
It is nothing like the stock JK ones in any way. They are WAY more stout and clamp down the way you would think they should have been designed to do from the start. I have had a number of Wranglers over the years and every one of them had a problem with hood flutter on the Hwy because of the flex in the stock latch. Not any more. The hood literally doesn't move at all at highway speed. You should take a good look at them on a JL and you will immediately understand why people do it.
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I'd not buy the JL latches as matter of principles, FCA screwed all of us with the garbage the JK came with and now we are suppose to give them more money 'cause they fixed them? Not me.
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