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Old 05-14-2015, 12:19 PM
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I was sitting in my local grocery store parking lot on Sunday afternoon waiting for my son to get done his work shift inside. I had the hard top off and it was a beautiful day. So I see this woman and a guy get in a similar black JKU across the parking lot and I see her driving my way.

She pulls up to me and says "Hello can I ask a question? Do you have a hard top? How hard is it to remove?" I say to her, "obviously you've never had yours off? How long have you had the Jeep?" She claims almost 2 years. I then proceed to explain to her how to remove it and how easy it is. Then I say "have you ever had the doors off? That's the ultimate Jeep experience." She then says "I can't take my doors off, I have the heated mirrors and electronic door locks". I then proceed to tell her that even with those options, the doors are really easy to remove. She thanks me and heads on her way.

Honestly, I was taken aback that someone could own/drive a JK for 2 years and not know how to remove the hard top and not even know you can take the doors off? Really? Why did you even buy a Wrangler? Why not just buy any other run of the mill SUV?

My god, part of the fun is weather like we have been having and running topless and/or doorless. So much fun!

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I hear you on that. I'm a new JKU owner myself and had the Hardtop off within 24 hours of ownership so I could take the soft top out from under it. While I had it off I drove around a bit for some fun. My neighbor came running over to ask about taking the hardtop off his Sahara that he's had for a few years. I'm thinking "You've never had the hardtop off??!! ever??!!". But I wanted to be polite.

He came running over last weekend too, when I finally got the soft top on. I think I may be helping him this summer. LOL He's an older guy in his 70s so I don't mind.

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I know lots of people who will not take the top of off their jeep because they believe it will never seal back and leak if removed.
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:47 PM   #4
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Personally, I get more worked up over the obesity epidemic that is wreaking havoc on our healthcare resources and destroying well-made chairs, but people who purchase Wranglers just to use them like any other SUV is annoying too. The JKU with a hardtop and power-everything is basically a Tahoe or Suburban with a less smooth ride if you never take the top or doors off...and for the record I have nothing against hardtops or power-everything.
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Not everyone gets a jk to feel the wind in their hair.
I'd like to get to places a pickup won't go on the ranch.
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:56 PM   #6
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Sometimes there's a storage issue..as in lack of it. I have a hardtop, I cannot remove the rear top because I have no place to store it as an apartment dweller. Same goes for the doors. Freedom panels can come off all day long but the other parts cannot.

I chose a hard top knowing full well I couldn't take off the rear top or doors because of storage. Got it anyway.
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Presumably she did know about the Freedom Panels?

Not taking a hard top off is down to personal taste/experience and what the vehicle was purchased for. Not KNOWING you can do it is dumb.

Doubt I'll take mine off much, I've had more soft top vehicles than you can shake a stick at and my FPanels give me all I need at this point, plus my giant dog/belongings can remain somewhat secure in the back when needed also (welcome to Baltimore).

"Be kind, for everyone you meet is (also) fighting a hard battle" as the Philo attributed quote kinda goes...

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Not everyone gets a jk to feel the wind in their hair.
I'd like to get to places a pickup won't go on the ranch.
Yep, that's what my horse said too!
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Yep, that's what my horse said too!
A good horse is fine when needed but checking water and putting out salt is a bit faster on wheels.
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I've owned mine for about 2 months now and have never taken the rear top off. I've taken the front ones off though.

I'm a little weary because I've had a mysterious crack appear (which the dealer just replaced) so I'm afraid of how fragile the fiberglass can be. I may be just over reacting... but I'd like to have the proper hoist set up before doing so.
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Live and let live is a good mantra.
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A good horse is fine when needed but checking water and putting out salt is a bit faster on wheels.
Quite right... schlepping feed up is why I got mine! That get's a thumbs up from my equine buddies!
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Some people are busy and have too much on their plate to care, kids etc.

Some people are just buying a Jeep because they want a G wagon and can't afford it, so a Jeep is the next best thing.

Some people like SUVs and there are no cool SUVs really left except for the Jeep.
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^ thats the truth. Most SUV's now days are built essentially on a car chassis.
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If you own a Wrangler and never take the top and doors off, you're doing it wrong.
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If you own a Wrangler and never take the top and doors off, you're doing it wrong.
Am I doing it right?

Have not taken delivery yet, and have $500 worth of mods I will be doing on day 1 (Cash in hand already for it, and I live 2 miles from Quadratech)

Sooo excited...just wanted to check this thread to make sure I was not the OP's thread title..haha
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I do not have any plans to take the top off. Maybe maybe the freedom panels but even then, not too interested in it. That may change after ownership. If I had the soft top it would always be down, but I have motorcycles if I want the true freedom feeling.
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Old 05-14-2015, 01:50 PM
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Am I doing it right?

Have not taken delivery yet, and have $500 worth of mods I will be doing on day 1 (Cash in hand already for it, and I live 2 miles from Quadratech)

Sooo excited...just wanted to check this thread to make sure I was not the OP's thread title..haha
Congrats! FYI, don't expect to walk into Quadratechs location and walk out with all your parts...they don't stock many of their "in stock" items, they ship directly from the wholesaler. Ask me how I know...I work 15 minutes from their facility and tried it once....I left disappointed.

Yes, the woman did have the "T-tops" out....haha.

I know to each his own, I get that....and if you decide not to do these things, I get that too. But to not know you can't take the doors off and to not know there is a electrical disconnect on the doors to me is amazing. Why do they think there is a strap door stop rather than a "normal" door stop.
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Their money, their Jeep, who cares what they do or don't do. I have enough things in my life to be concerned with that I don't need to start worrying about how random strangers are using a Jeep that they bought and paid for...
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Cool looking factor aside, I have no intention to ever take the hard top or doors off my JKU. Did not buy it for that reason, kinda been there done that with my TJs and found it over rated for my liking. Now my wife's JK is another story, she what's that hard top and doors off as soon as the summer weather hits. I'll have to live with driving in it around town, coastal & mountain scenic drives and yes, dare I say it, mall shopping. For the summer it is a MALL CRAWLER! Absolutely NO TRAIL runs with the top off, I am not going to spend untold hours cleaning the interior of all that dust and dirt.

Thankfully she agreed. Happy wife, happy life kinda thing.
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Congrats! FYI, don't expect to walk into Quadratechs location and walk out with all your parts...they don't stock many of their "in stock" items, they ship directly from the wholesaler. Ask me how I know...I work 15 minutes from their facility and tried it once....I left disappointed.
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That makes me sad.

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I like the freedom panels so much I may never remove the whole top.

But the doors will definitely get removed occasionally!
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I get mostly other JK's leaving me hanging on the wave. I get that people are gonna miss em every now and then. Lots of stockers or chromed up ones seem to be the most frequent culprits and I am sure that if they don't even know that their doors can come off, they surely do not know about the rest of Jeep culture!
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Their money, their Jeep, who cares what they do or don't do. I have enough things in my life to be concerned with that I don't need to start worrying about how random strangers are using a Jeep that they bought and paid for...
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My neighbor as a 2012 Sahara which he bought brand new - soft top only and has NEVER put down the soft top. Not once. The day I brought mine home two weeks ago I had the hard top off, hoisted and the soft top on and down. He looked at me and said, man you're ambitious.
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I don't know, man. Maybe it just makes them happy.
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Im sure to each their own....

I met a girl yesterday with a 2dr that has never had the hard top off and has not had the freedom panels off this year at all (mine have been off like 10 times already this year.....)

She only cared that she could get it muddy and was proud of that.... She even said that after her first wrangler, she saw no reason to have a soft top.... lol
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If every person who bought a JK/JKU with the intentions of never having the doors and top off or using it for its "intended purpose" had decided to buy one of those "SUV thingies" instead of the beloved JK/JKU, the JK/JKU probably wouldn't still be avail. Same goes for all the "jeepers" who make fun of mall crawlers decked out with every aftermarket item avail. Without those sales, Jeep aftermarket parts would not be nearly avail as they are today.

Instead of belittling them, why don't you try thanking them for supporting the brand and allowing the JK/JKU to continue.

My wife and I bought our Jeeps at the same time. I have had the doors and top off many times. But my wife could careless and never intends on taking hers off. Should she trade her JKU in and settle for a "SUV thingie" or should she continue to pound the pavement in a vehicle she likes and is safe to drive?
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And to think I'm going nuts waiting for hot weather so I can take my doors off and top down. Why does it always want to rain when I'm off?!?
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Instead of belittling them, why don't you try thanking them for supporting the brand and allowing the JK/JKU to continue.
Not sure I ever belittled anyone, I believe that's a bit harsh if you are referencing me.

I am allowed not to understand why a person would buy such a versatile vehicle and never use it's versatility. I just don't understand it. There are tradeoffs with owning the Jeep that are worth it if you use it's versatility. Leaky doors and tops to be specific.

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