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Old 10-22-2016, 01:12 AM
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JKU adjustable track bar options -advice needed

Well I searched the forum and my buddy Google and didn't come up with anything so here it goes....
My 2007 jku wanders quite a bit and pulls pretty hard to the left. Alignment is spot on minus caster. Has pre-installed Teraflex 2.5-3.5 inch left, not sure exactly. It rides about 1.5"s to the left off center on the axle. My thoughts are to get an adjustable trackbar. First- is that the answer to the pulling to the left and wandering or could I get away with just a raised bracket? Also, I'm super cheap and want the cheapest so would a Superlift be sufficient? Steinjager? I know some will chime in and tell me to spend the money but it kills me to pay more for a brand name. I'm 80/20 city roads/off-road explorer but hope to get more off-road exploring time. I have 315/70/16 KO2's.

Any suggestions/cheapskate advice? I know drop brackets will come up so feel free to offer suggestions on that too. Thanks all!

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Both things will help improve the handling for your Jeep. You can get a set of Rancho drop brackets that will get you caster back into spec for about $120 bucks if you get a quote from Rick @Quadratec .
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Also, a lot of people here are happy with their Superlifts trackbars, Rick can also get you them for under $150 each shipped.
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Typically the offset axle doesn't really contribute to a pull. However, low caster DOES cause a wander. Both are easy to fix...

The Superlift track bar is an excellent piece and even better for the price. I run their rear bar, Ken runs the front and they have great bushings and a lifetime warranty.

The new Rancho RS62103 brackets are the go-to bracket now with multiple levels of adjustment/attachment for the upper arms allows you to dial in the caster to your liking. It's like driving a new Jeep if you have low caster and install the geometry brackets.

You can see my review here: https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/ne...t-1809713.html

The pull could be many things. Do you have a gas charged steering stabilizer? They cause a left pull... Some tires have a known pull. Caster being too low on the drivers side can cause a left pull.

Check the steering stabilizer....
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Thanks Pressurized and Unstuck! Great to hear. Didn't know Rancho was the go-to. I have a Bilstein stabilizer so I think I will rotate tires, get the Superlift track bar and unbolt the stabilizer and check the pull in that order. Superlift bars are the next to least expensive bars so I wasn't sure how they would hold up so hearing you both okay them helps!

I'll listen to any other suggestions...
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Thanks Pressurized and Unstuck! Great to hear. Didn't know Rancho was the go-to. I have a Bilstein stabilizer so I think I will rotate tires, get the Superlift track bar and unbolt the stabilizer and check the pull in that order. Superlift bars are the next to least expensive bars so I wasn't sure how they would hold up so hearing you both okay them helps!

I'll listen to any other suggestions...
Bilstein stabilizer is definitely contributing to the left pull. It is one of the highest gas charged units on the market.
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Bilstein stabilizer is definitely contributing to the left pull. It is one of the highest gas charged units on the market.
Any suggestions?
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Bilstein stabilizer is definitely contributing to the left pull. It is one of the highest gas charged units on the market.
Why are people using these gas charged units?
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Any suggestions?
Well, they are good for someone that has a right pull and can't get rid of it...

The ProComp twin tube is cheap at around $38 or the Superlift relocation kit is a great value and kills multiple birds with...

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Why are people using these gas charged units?
It's my opinion that most of the time the installation shop recommends the more "premium" unit without any knowledge of what they actually do. Buyer isn't aware and takes the shops advice.

If someone wants really good, they should buy the OME.... And the best is probably the FOX ATS, but neither are really noticeable on a typical DD Jeep.
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I sure appreciate the suggestions all! I didn't know about high pressure gas stabilizer and pushing left! Thanks a ton!

As a cheapskate, I'll have to evaluate the order of importance. The pulling is annoying!
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My Billstein stabilizer does not cause any pull at all. I track true and straight. I really don't think it's anything significant.
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Jks

Okay. Bought a used JKS for $75. Big bar! I'll put it on this weekend along with my new Paramount skid plate I got for $100 shipped!!! It's beefy!
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Don't cheap out on one like a rough country. Get a beefy one. I got a jk's. It's a good one and after 2 years all is still good.
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Didn't get to the trackbar but spent a couple hours on a paramount oil skid plate. Happy to have it on!

Will post when done.
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Well, they are good for someone that has a right pull and can't get rid of it...

The ProComp twin tube is cheap at around $38 or the Superlift relocation kit is a great value and kills multiple birds with...

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Pressure, had a question on this subject.



It's my opinion that most of the time the installation shop recommends the more "premium" unit without any knowledge of what they actually do. Buyer isn't aware and takes the shops advice.

If someone wants really good, they should buy the OME.... And the best is probably the FOX ATS, but neither are really noticeable on a typical DD Jeep.

Question.
I have a left pull and got an alignment last April. It was perfect for a wk then good since until recently. Do I really need an alignment every 6 mths to keep it from chewing up the tires like it did before.
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Is my teraflex nexus 2.2 stabilizer adding to the left pull?

Just wondering.

I am going to get a new front track bar and maybe eventually a yeti drag link tie rod stuff.

I donot want the griffin as I hear it doesn’t work well with tf nexus 2.2 good.
So I know I m getting new
Track bar and wanted to know, what’s the ideal setup for the front stuff.

Is it yeti or anything good brand.
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I have a left pull and got an alignment last April. It was perfect for a wk then good since until recently. Do I really need an alignment every 6 mths to keep it from chewing up the tires like it did before.
Or
Is my teraflex nexus 2.2 stabilizer adding to the left pull?

Just wondering.

I am going to get a new front track bar and maybe eventually a yeti drag link tie rod stuff.

I donot want the griffin as I hear it doesn’t work well with tf nexus 2.2 good.
So I know I m getting new
Track bar and wanted to know, what’s the ideal setup for the front stuff.

Is it yeti or anything good brand.
It's not going to be the Nexus... They are a center pull which does not cause any steering pulls in either direction. I just went with the Core4x4 track bar from Allens Offroad, and very happy with it. As for drag link and tie rod, I like the aluminum stuff. I'd say the Doetsch kit is hard to beat for $400 which is a flip setup.

https://doetschoffroad.com/products/...minum-steering
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It's not going to be the Nexus... They are a center pull which does not cause any steering pulls in either direction. I just went with the Core4x4 track bar from Allens Offroad, and very happy with it. As for drag link and tie rod, I like the aluminum stuff. I'd say the Doetsch kit is hard to beat for $400 which is a flip setup.

https://doetschoffroad.com/products/...minum-steering
Thanks brother.

I check that stuff. You think I benefit from a MC 2.5 springs with a 1.0 front spacer, so 3.5/2.5 lift, doing the flip setup.

Would the flip setup, whicjh I guess needs a front track bar bracket thing, will work with the nexus as the nexus is in same spot as track bar.

I like the leightweight compared to steel, if strong enough or as strong. So I get good performance everywhere I can. Trying to go Leight weight amap.
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Not trying to be obvious but whats the mileage on the tires?
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Not trying to be obvious but whats the mileage on the tires?
Me?

4500 nov to April
4500 apr to aug
1500 since
So about 10,500 miles in 11 mths, didn’t drive in Jan and feb so 9 mths.

Yr before
10,000 from mar 1 to mid November that’s 8.5 mths. With bfg mud tires that wore bad and cupped bad by 22,000 miles. Got rid of those tires and got the trail grapplers, which drive handle and wear way better then bfg tires.

Only thing was alignment was bad so it chewed trail grapplers up good to, the first 4500 miles. Since alignment, wear is better. Though it looks like with my setup I need alignment every 6 mths, it’s starting to pull left again and I donot want to chew tires ups fast like the first 4500 miles did.

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