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Old 07-11-2019, 05:35 AM
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My rubicon has 150k on it and I’m going to swap out my shocks. I’ve found the factory shocks that come on the rubicon for 84 dollars each. In my experience with other cars oe struts and shocks always out last aftermarket. Anyone have any experience with these or other brands? Suspension is stock.

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If the current stock rubi shocks lasted 150k I say another set of the same things should be fine.

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My rubicon has 150k on it and Iím going to swap out my shocks. Iíve found the factory shocks that come on the rubicon for 84 dollars each. In my experience with other cars oe struts and shocks always out last aftermarket. Anyone have any experience with these or other brands? Suspension is stock.
You can do that, but at that price you could buy a set of aftermarket shocks. Or you could look for a set of take offs from someone for less. People sell a set of take offs for near what you are looking at paying for one.
The stock Rubi shocks aren't as bad as the stock Sport and Sahara shocks, but there are better shocks out there at that price in my opinion.
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My rubicon has 150k on it and I’m going to swap out my shocks. I’ve found the factory shocks that come on the rubicon for 84 dollars each. In my experience with other cars oe struts and shocks always out last aftermarket. Anyone have any experience with these or other brands? Suspension is stock.


You can do that, but at that price you could buy a set of aftermarket shocks. Or you could look for a set of take offs from someone for less. People sell a set of take offs for near what you are looking at paying for one.
The stock Rubi shocks aren't as bad as the stock Sport and Sahara shocks, but there are better shocks out there at that price in my opinion.
I don’t know if any aftermarket brands personally that will really last 150k. We have but ranchos on customers cars at work that have been weak out of the box. Just curious is anyone had tried any aftermarket shocks that was as good as the oem shocks
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$84 each? You're getting ripped off. I wouldn't pay more than $50 for the set. As @Leadnut said, you can find some for free or super cheap.
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$84 each? You're getting ripped off. I wouldn't pay more than $50 for the set. As @Leadnut said, you can find some for free or super cheap.
$50 dollars for the set? You must be talking used.
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$50 dollars for the set? You must be talking used.
Used, but often near brand new as many people take them off first thing.
There are plenty of people who sell their near new stock shocks and springs because they are replacing them with lifted springs and shocks.
Some never even make that first drive home from the dealer.
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$50 dollars for the set? You must be talking used.
Well they're used, but take offs. Usually <100 miles on a set. That would be new enough for me.
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$50 dollars for the set? You must be talking used.
Well they're used, but take offs. Usually <100 miles on a set. That would be new enough for me.
Wow I’d like to find a set of those? Maybe I should make a post here on the forum that I’m looking for some
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The funny thing is, over time we get accustomed to the changes in ride quality of our vehicles. Just because you got 150k miles out of the OEM shocks doesn't mean they shouldn't have been replaced 50k or more miles ago. To say aftermarket shocks won't last as long as the OEM is dubious at best. Sure, if you put the absolute cheapest Monroe, etc. that you can possibly find that fits your vehicle, they may suffer failure sooner than the OEM shocks. Again, that doesn't mean the OEM shocks at 150k miles are performing how they should be. Having modified many, many passenger car suspensions and SUV suspensions over that last 40 years or so, my experience has been that a quality designed and manufactured aftermarket shock will outlast and outperform most all OEM shocks. Consider yourself very fortunate that you were able to put up with the ride quality of the OEM shocks for 150k miles. But don't be surprised if you are able to repeat that with a quality aftermarket shock. As always, YMMV.
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Wow I’d like to find a set of those? Maybe I should make a post here on the forum that I’m looking for some
TONS of modded Jeeps in AZ, so you see them on CL fairly often. I know you're in NC, but keep your eyes peeled. Also, maybe get involved with a local Jeep club. Most of the time it's all about who you know
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The funny thing is, over time we get accustomed to the changes in ride quality of our vehicles. Just because you got 150k miles out of the OEM shocks doesn't mean they shouldn't have been replaced 50k or more miles ago. To say aftermarket shocks won't last as long as the OEM is dubious at best. Sure, if you put the absolute cheapest Monroe, etc. that you can possibly find that fits your vehicle, they may suffer failure sooner than the OEM shocks. Again, that doesn't mean the OEM shocks at 150k miles are performing how they should be. Having modified many, many passenger car suspensions and SUV suspensions over that last 40 years or so, my experience has been that a quality designed and manufactured aftermarket shock will outlast and outperform most all OEM shocks. Consider yourself very fortunate that you were able to put up with the ride quality of the OEM shocks for 150k miles. But don't be surprised if you are able to repeat that with a quality aftermarket shock. As always, YMMV.
I don’t have a lot of experience with a ton of aftermarket brands but I’ve been a mechanic for 17 years so I had a little experience with some brands. We have tried kybs, and as for Monroe’s the reflex is the only ones they will even let us install of those anymore, and ranchos. Those ranchos are the worst. We put a set of the 7000 series on a ‘18 gmc last month and after two trips back the guy ended up going to gm and getting stock struts. I’m sure you have a ton of experience too but yeah I’m sure you could go pay 800 dollars for four shocks and possibly get a good ride but in my experience when we have installed factory shocks, and I’d say we install oem stuff about 50% of the time we have never had a complaint or a return. I think sometimes people think if they are a pretty color or have a big sticker on them that translates into a good ride. I promise you it doesn’t. But hey to each their own
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Go with Fox 2.0 shocks.
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Go with Fox 2.0 shocks.
I don’t have any experience with those but I won’t be lifting my Jeep and probably will do very little big off-roading. Bottom line for just regular street driving I’ve never put on any aftermarket strut or shock that road better than a oem strut. For the same money I’d choose oem everytime as far as struts go. And not to mention I’ve already had three guys message me with basically brand new rubicon shocks at a great price.
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I don’t have any experience with those but I won’t be lifting my Jeep and probably will do very little big off-roading. Bottom line for just regular street driving I’ve never put on any aftermarket strut or shock that road better than a oem strut. For the same money I’d choose oem everytime as far as struts go. And not to mention I’ve already had three guys message me with basically brand new rubicon shocks at a great price.

As soon as my stock Rubi shocks go it's Fox 2.0 going on. Running then in my 07 and it rides better than the stock oem IMO.
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I don’t have any experience with those but I won’t be lifting my Jeep and probably will do very little big off-roading. Bottom line for just regular street driving I’ve never put on any aftermarket strut or shock that road better than a oem strut. For the same money I’d choose oem everytime as far as struts go. And not to mention I’ve already had three guys message me with basically brand new rubicon shocks at a great price.
If you haven't had a shock be better than OEM then you need to buy better aftermarket shocks. Anything you get from like Autozone or a place like that are probably going to suck and I would agree they'd be less than OEM.

If you go name brand aftermarket like Fox, Bilstin, Old Man Emu, Falcon, or anything like those they're going to be much better. I'm a Fox guy myself, I had Fox 2.0 shocks and I loved those and I'm running Fox 2.0 adjustable reservoir shocks now and they're fantastic.

Just because you have OEM suspension at stock length doesn't mean you can run aftermarket shocks. I know plenty of companies make shocks that work with 0-2 inches of lift.
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If you haven't had a shock be better than OEM then you need to buy better aftermarket shocks. Anything you get from like Autozone or a place like that are probably going to suck and I would agree they'd be less than OEM.

If you go name brand aftermarket like Fox, Bilstin, Old Man Emu, Falcon, or anything like those they're going to be much better. I'm a Fox guy myself, I had Fox 2.0 shocks and I loved those and I'm running Fox 2.0 adjustable reservoir shocks now and they're fantastic.

Just because you have OEM suspension at stock length doesn't mean you can run aftermarket shocks. I know plenty of companies make shocks that work with 0-2 inches of lift.
I'm a big noob with Jeeps so bare with me here. I noticed you didn't say Rancho when listing off aftermarket shocks. Do you not think they're good?

I used to have rubicon express monotube shocks and springs that felt stiff as hell. I wanted a smoother ride and people suggested the Rancho RS9000XL's, so I got those. It was a slight improvement but ride is still stiff. Do you happen to think Fox are smoother?
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I'm a big noob with Jeeps so bare with me here. I noticed you didn't say Rancho when listing off aftermarket shocks. Do you not think they're good?

I used to have rubicon express monotube shocks and springs that felt stiff as hell. I wanted a smoother ride and people suggested the Rancho RS9000XL's, so I got those. It was a slight improvement but ride is still stiff. Do you happen to think Fox are smoother?
Good eye. I worked at O'Riley's for 2 years and the most warranted out shock was always Rancho's; even the adjustable 9000's. I saw plenty of thm blown out or leaking after 3-8 months. Even a few where the mount tabs would rip off the shock body too. IMHO, they're not well built. Without going into extreme detail, there's far better options out there. Yes the fox shocks are going to be much smoother and overall better riding especially when pushing them off road.







Ranchos are a twin tube shock, so there's an outer wall that's either oil/nitrogen filled. Twin tube shocks in a lot of ways aren't as good as a mono tube shock. Higher end shocks like Fox/Bilsten etc are monotube. There's pros/cons for each, but in general mono tubes are more consistent and better performing. Compared to a stock shock or 90% of the other shocks you'd find at Autozone or O'Riley's they're definitely better.However, when you compare them to higher end shocks like ones I listed, they just don't hold up or perform the same. Rancho's are a decent bang for the buck, compared to other lower end priced shocks, but there's far better options out there if you spend a bit more $.
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Have to add similar sentiments about Ranchos - they don't last and aren't worth it. I've had them on multiple vehicles and different models - all with similar results. Ran the 9000s on my Jeep - aside from the piss poor adjusters, they ran hot and faded early. Early onset of fading, with noticeable decrease in performance after only a few 10ks was the common trait whether it was the suburban, the Blazer or the Jeep. For a while, I ran Monroe sensatracs and they were far better than stock or the ranchos. I run fox now.
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10k miles on my Rancho 9000's, 2000 mile round trip to Colorado fully loaded, wheeled some pretty challenging trails while there. My adjusters work just fine (spray them once/month with silicone lube), no leaks, no fade. I guess I'm just lucky.
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Rancho's are, in my experience, a decent shock at a great price. They don't have the build quality of higher end brands. But they are cheaper and have a great warranty. I am currently running a set right now until I decide which expensive shocks I want (although I am leaning towards coil overs). But the Rancho Shocks I have on now are working at least as well as the stock shocks. Sure, they may not last as long, but they also may last longer. The stock shocks are not high end shocks either. And how long a cheap shock lasts is down to luck of the draw.
Bilstein and Fox are two affordable upgrade shocks, but many have great luck with the Rancho's, myself included.
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Wow, it’s sad to hear Rancho quality has gone down. I had them on two different vehicles for about ten years each with no problem, but I didn’t off-road much back then. I have never run fast when off-roading though as I don’t like my suspension sounding like a jack hammer.
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I'm a big noob with Jeeps so bare with me here. I noticed you didn't say Rancho when listing off aftermarket shocks. Do you not think they're good?

I used to have rubicon express monotube shocks and springs that felt stiff as hell. I wanted a smoother ride and people suggested the Rancho RS9000XL's, so I got those. It was a slight improvement but ride is still stiff. Do you happen to think Fox are smoother?
Good eye. I worked at O'Riley's for 2 years and the most warranted out shock was always Rancho's; even the adjustable 9000's. I saw plenty of thm blown out or leaking after 3-8 months. Even a few where the mount tabs would rip off the shock body too. IMHO, they're not well built. Without going into extreme detail, there's far better options out there. Yes the fox shocks are going to be much smoother and overall better riding especially when pushing them off road.







Ranchos are a twin tube shock, so there's an outer wall that's either oil/nitrogen filled. Twin tube shocks in a lot of ways aren't as good as a mono tube shock. Higher end shocks like Fox/Bilsten etc are monotube. There's pros/cons for each, but in general mono tubes are more consistent and better performing. Compared to a stock shock or 90% of the other shocks you'd find at Autozone or O'Riley's they're definitely better.However, when you compare them to higher end shocks like ones I listed, they just don't hold up or perform the same. Rancho's are a decent bang for the buck, compared to other lower end priced shocks, but there's far better options out there if you spend a bit more $.
Thank you for the detailed response! I see you’re knowledgeable on the technical details of shocks so I’m hoping I can pick your brain for a minute.

So I had 3.5” Rancho Express lift kit that came with their springs and mono tube shocks. I’ll totally admit that I am a mall crawler and I rarely off-road, so this set up was way too stiff for me. I then swapped my springs for Eibach springs and my shocks for the Rancho RS9000XLs.. now this helped the ride quality a little bit but I still think it’s a stiff ride. I know i can’t get it to ride like a Cadillac but what shocks would you recommend I get then?

Again, I am a mall crawler. I almost never off-road Į\_(ツ)_/Į. So I’m assuming I should go with twin tube shocks. However I was kinda curious if some nice performance monotube shocks could have better ride quality than twin tube shocks just because of its quality.

I was kinda looking at these fox shocks
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I'm a big noob with Jeeps so bare with me here. I noticed you didn't say Rancho when listing off aftermarket shocks. Do you not think they're good?

I used to have rubicon express monotube shocks and springs that felt stiff as hell. I wanted a smoother ride and people suggested the Rancho RS9000XL's, so I got those. It was a slight improvement but ride is still stiff. Do you happen to think Fox are smoother?
It's the springs... Rubicon Express are about the highest rate springs you can buy. Put on a set of OME or Mopar springs and it's a night and day difference.

Edit: I see you put on Eibach springs, they are about the same rate as the Mopar's... Did you do geometry correction brackets?
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I'm a big noob with Jeeps so bare with me here. I noticed you didn't say Rancho when listing off aftermarket shocks. Do you not think they're good?

I used to have rubicon express monotube shocks and springs that felt stiff as hell. I wanted a smoother ride and people suggested the Rancho RS9000XL's, so I got those. It was a slight improvement but ride is still stiff. Do you happen to think Fox are smoother?
It's the springs... Rubicon Express are about the highest rate springs you can buy. Put on a set of OME or Mopar springs and it's a night and day difference.

Edit: I see you put on Eibach springs, they are about the same rate as the Mopar's... Did you do geometry correction brackets?
Weird. Was just reading a post of yours from a few years ago lol. Anyways, gonna be honest with you, no idea what geometry correction brackets are. All I did was have the mechanic swap my RE shocks and springs with the Eibachs and Ranchos.. nothing more, nothing less. Bear with me please I’m still learning!


Edit: just looked into them. These look like something I’d be really interested in. I’m gonna do a little more research then possibly buy some. A few quick questions tho..

1. Do these brackets require me to use my stock oem control arms? Or do I still use my rubicon express ones that came with my lift - which are:

(2) Front Lower Fixed Super-Flex Control Arms
(2) Rear Lower Fixed Super-Flex Control Arms
(2) Front Upper Adjustable Super-Flex Control Arms
(2) Rear Upper Adjustable Super-Flex Control Arms

2. Do I just need them for the front? Or is it front and back that I need them


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If it'd be worth a drive to Nashville, you can have my like new OEM shocks. They came off my 2018 JKUR Recon. I'd be glad to get them out of the garage.
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I've had many sets of Ranchos. I don't buy name drops or price tags. I buy what works and what has worked on my Jeeps/ Tacos/etc.
Can more $$ be spent? You bet and I've known buddies that have (spent a LOT more $$) and then they drove my JKURHR or JLUR with Rancho lift/shocks etc....

It's so sad to see their pouty faces when they realized how much they spent and how much better my Jeep rides.
Some body trys to tell me what tastes good, feels good, smells good etc etc....

I say, "Thank you but I'll trust my own senses". Big names/Big $$ and then performance.

Like I say with everything - "Be a Do'er Not a talker". I'll stick with what I know and trust.

* Rancho's on my 2018 JLUR

BTW: Most hobbies are the same way. I've always been in the audiophile hobby. Have had some amazing systems.
I remember being at a party at an audio store I used to frequent. Guy comes over "Hey I heard your system sounds amazing" Yep I'm happy with it, went together well.
That was an entre' to him now bragging about his Krell monoblocks, Apogee speakers blah blah. Guy had $250,000 tied up in this system.
He leaves and my buddy John comes over "I see @#$% found you..." Yep.
"His system sounds like crap"

Moral of the story: Throwing $$$ at anything doesn't guarantee anything except you'll have less $$$ - the outcome is about how things go together.
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If you were happy with stock stick with what makes you happy. I will say I have had Rancho 5000X in various lengths and they were really good shocks for the money but have a really poor finish and need to be repainted right out of the box, I had 2 sets of Rancho 7000's (first set replaced under warranty) I did not like them somuch as they faded fast on fast rough roads but were great on the street. I have had several sets of Bilstein 5100 and loved them all tho some think they are too stiff I did not find that to be the case. I currently have Falcon 3.1 shocks and have about 25000 miles on them and they are my favorite by a million miles.

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