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Old 03-23-2019, 03:56 PM
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My son Robert graduated from Penn State last May and he started his career in DC at the end of last summer. He thinks it's about time to have his own vehicle and he wants a Jeep. I could also use another Jeep - I've got some design projects I'd like to do for the 2dr JK. So I just bought one. I'll use it for some months for the projects and then I'll turn it over to Robert. I pick up the new Jeep on Monday, here's a shot of it at the dealer.



It's a 2013 and nicely equipped (not counting a bunch of add-on stuff that'll be coming off) - it's got a premium soft top in garage-kept condition, 6-speed, satellite radio, UConnect/Bluetooth, 3.73 gears, tow package, power windows/locks.

First order of business is replacing the worn tires and the black wheels with something better, and removing a lot of the add-on stuff - the lights above the windshield will come off, that plastic thing on the hood has got to go, the plastic door hinge covers, window vent shades, etc.

I'll probably put this hardtop on it, with custom Freedom Panels with openable skylights and fixed skylights in the rear; perhaps these hardtop sides with slider windows although I've got sides with factory windows as well so maybe those.



The hardtop has removable sides, so it's nice for open air driving.



Robert may want it with the soft top though, I'll have to see what he decides.

I'll also be installing a bunch of MORryde gear on it, they've agreed to provide any of their products for this project. Jeep Accessories From MORryde

My first new design project for it will be a 2-dr version of the Overhead/Swing Down Molle panel that's just gone into production for the JKU. It's something I designed last year and I've had a lot of requests for a 2-door version of it. It makes use of storage space above the cargo area and it's out of sight when stowed, in the left photo it's swung down, on the right it's stowed out of sight.



I've got a bunch of other design projects I plan to do before I turn the Jeep over to Robert, I'll post about them when I get to them.

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Penn State, congrats man, smart boy.
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Way to go on the Graduation from Penn..also on the new Jeep! Im in luv with that hardtop!!!!!! Id definitely take that over a soft any day..


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Awesome. Excited to see what kind of 2 door specific stuff you come up with.



A fully modular hardtop with removable sides and removable barn door rear window coupled with hard shell half door uppers is my dream set up. If such a thing existed (at a retail level), I would buy it right now.
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Can't way to see what 2-door magic you come up with. I drive a 2013 as well... I suspect I'll be making some purchases in the future
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A fully modular hardtop with removable sides and removable barn door rear window coupled with hard shell half door uppers is my dream set up. If such a thing existed (at a retail level), I would buy it right now.
All of the things you mention do exist, but haven't made it to retail (yet).

The modular hardtop is a DIY project, I posted step-by-step how-to instructions on how to convert a factory hardtop to modular here: http://forum.expeditionportal.com/th...top-to-modular. I've made two of them, here are the parts disassembled. So even though it's not a retail product you can have one if you follow the DIY instructions.



The barn door exists and I've made some for me and for friends, here's one on my Jeep and one I recently made for a friend with an Ursa Minor Camper Top on his JKU (same hatch opening as a factory hardtop):



The barn door is designed to work with the factory hardtop, here's one I was testing with a factory top:



The molds for the barn door exist and more can be made, if any company or person is interested in putting them in production I'll be happy to discuss it with them.

The fiberglass half door uppers exist too, the molds for them are done. Here's the first set of 4 out of the molds:



Same with those, if any company or person is interested in putting them in production I'll be happy to discuss it with them.

One thing I haven't done yet (you didn't mention it but I will) are roll-up soft sides for the modular hardtop. I've done them for my JKU modular Safari Cab and for my LJ Safari Cab, but because I haven't had a 2dr to put the modular top on I haven't be able to sew them. These are the ones on the JKU modualr top...





And on the LJ:



The same design will work on the modular factory hardtop; hopefully I'll get time to sew a set before Robert claims the Jeep .
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Awesome. Excited to see what kind of 2 door specific stuff you come up with.
In addition to a 2dr version of the Overhead/Swing-Down Molle panel and the roll-up soft sides for the modular hardtop that I mentioned in posts above, I've got 4 or 5 other design ideas that are specific to the 2-door I'd like to do. Depends on how much time I have before Robert claims the Jeep. I've mentioned some of the ideas to two different companies and got very positive responses, so there's a good chance some of the ideas will turn into products. Stay tuned.

BTW if any of you 2-door guys out there have specific ideas for the 2-door, let me know and maybe I'll add your idea to the design project list.
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I picked up the 2dr this morning at the dealer and immediately drove it home and started removing stuff from it. Now there's a pile in the garage.



I've still got a little tape residue to remove from the vent shades and the hinge covers. It took so long to remove the residue from the plastic thing on the hood that I wasn't up for doing more.

The Jeep is now back to how it looked when it was new. It's been very well cared for, so it really does look and drive like a new Jeep.

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My son Robert graduated from Penn State last May and he started his career in DC at the end of last summer.
Looks a whole lot better with the "options" removed. IMO that modular hardtop would be best for DC. Soft top is more than likely going to get slashed. I went to UMD. Looking forward to seeing this build completed.
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Sub jscherb project! To each their own but for buck-fifty that hood applique kinda looks H3ish. Much cleaner without.
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Looks a whole lot better with the "options" removed. IMO that modular hardtop would be best for DC. Soft top is more than likely going to get slashed. I went to UMD. Looking forward to seeing this build completed.
Thanks. I'm very pleased with how it cleaned up. It's a one-owner Jeep, and the owner took very good care of it, even if he did outfit it with nothing Robert and I wanted to keep . It looks and drives like a one-year-old Jeep, not a one that's six years old. I think it'll make a great first vehicle for Rob.

BTW Rob joined the forum and he subscribed to this thread so if anyone has any Jeep advice or suggestions for him he's following along.
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Sub jscherb project! To each their own but for buck-fifty that hood applique kinda looks H3ish. Much cleaner without.
Definitely not my taste or Rob's and yes it's very Hummish. I think the trashcan is the best place for it .
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In the first picture i thought someone glued a breakfast-in-bed tray table on the hood. Someone paid money for that? And then put it on the hood too?
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One small project I did today after I swapped the tires/wheels for nicer ones... I told the service manager at the Jeep dealership that I'd give him the old tires/wheels (giving them away is the easiest way to dispose of them ), but I didn't want to give away the tire pressure sensors. I often buy take-off tires/rims on Craigslist and sometimes they're from earlier years with sensors that aren't compatible with my '13 JKU (or this '13), or sometimes the seller has taken the sensors out to use in his new wheels, so I wanted to keep them.

Removing the sensors at home wasn't too difficult. After removing the valve stems I laid the tire down in front of the Jeep. I placed a 2' piece of 2x6 up on the tire as a ramp, with the top end at the edge of the wheel just over the bead. In 4wd I drove up the board and stopped with the tire just at the end of the board, over the bead. It takes a minute or two for the weight to break the bead, but a little additional persuasion in the form of me standing on the sidewall helped a bit. Once I removed the sensors, I replaced the valve stem and aired up the tires, popping the bead back in place.
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In the first picture i thought someone glued a breakfast-in-bed tray table on the hood. Someone paid money for that? And then put it on the hood too?
It's a Bestop product, they probably paid around $150 for it... https://www.quadratec.com/products/13106_500_07.htm

As I was struggling to remove it, all I could think of was mounting some fake machine gun barrels on it .



But I won't do that because it's next home will be the trash can.
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I'm pretty sure Rob wants a Penn State tire cover, but for the time being I put a Retrofit Offroad Tactical Spare cover on. Tactical Spare Tire Covers | Retrofit Offroad



I've got a few of these covers on hand, maybe a black one would look better, it goes well with the premium soft top...

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I'm pretty sure Rob wants a Penn State tire cover, but for the time being I put a Retrofit Offroad Tactical Spare cover on. Tactical Spare Tire Covers | Retrofit Offroad



I've got a few of these covers on hand, maybe a black one would look better, it goes well with the premium soft top...

Just make him a PSU bag or patch that he can attach to it!

I'll take one too while you're at it
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Just make him a PSU bag or patch that he can attach to it!

I'll take one too while you're at it
Hmmm... The Tactical Spare cover has velcro for attaching patches so a patch could be added like the one at the top of the cover in the image below. Or, I found this bag on eBay, could add Molle straps to the back of it...

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Early frontrunner for Dad of the Year! Always enjoy reading through your project posts, jscherb.
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Hmmm... The Tactical Spare cover has velcro for attaching patches so a patch could be added like the one at the top of the cover in the image below. Or, I found this bag on eBay, could add Molle straps to the back of it...

I definitely think he would like that!
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Sweet! So happy you have a 2 door to play around with. Ive been following your 4 door build and can't wait to see what you come up with!
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Sweet! So happy you have a 2 door to play around with. Ive been following your 4 door build and can't wait to see what you come up with!
Thanks. The first few things I'll be doing will be to test install some of the things I've already done for the JKU, such as:

- JL-style grille

- Trail Kitchen. The company has released a no-drill installation kit for the JKU, and it installs with no drilling in the LJ and TJ, but it hasn't been checked out in the JK2 yet, so I'll do that and send installation info to the company so they can make it available to 2dr owners

- Install the factory modular hardtop. Since the hardtop bolts back together it installs just like a factory hardtop, but running without the sides requires securing the roof panel to the main hoop of the roll bar and since I haven't had a 2dr until now I haven't done that. It's not a big deal, I just have to do it. Once that's installed, and assuming I have time before Robert claims the Jeep, I'll sew roll-up soft sides for the hardtop.

- Install MORryde HD tailgate hinges and tailgate reinforcement. Just waiting to receive them from MORryde. I'll probably also install the new MORrryde Overland Rack on the tailgate, at least to get some photos of it on the 2dr.

- Do a version of the Overhead/Swing-Down Molle Panel for the 2dr. The 4dr version is in production and being released within 2 weeks (I'm told shipping April 9), so I'll get one of the first production ones and prototype the new mounts for it so it fits the 2dr. The company expects to put that in production shortly after I turn over the design info to them.

Beyond that I've got some new design ideas that are specific to the 2dr so I'll be doing prototypes of them and if I'm happy with the designs I'll turn them over to the appropriate company for production. I'll post about those projects as I do them, don't want to write about them just yet. Stay tuned.

And as I said earlier in the thread, if anyone has 2dr-specific ideas, let me know and maybe I'll do a design and a prototype of your idea.
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Looks good.

Gotta love that those PSU tuition payments are over. In state is bad enough, and I imagine out of state tuition is almost double.
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All of the things you mention do exist, but haven't made it to retail (yet).



The modular hardtop is a DIY project, I posted step-by-step how-to instructions on how to convert a factory hardtop to modular here: http://forum.expeditionportal.com/th...top-to-modular. I've made two of them, here are the parts disassembled. So even though it's not a retail product you can have one if you follow the DIY instructions.







The barn door exists and I've made some for me and for friends, here's one on my Jeep and one I recently made for a friend with an Ursa Minor Camper Top on his JKU (same hatch opening as a factory hardtop):







The barn door is designed to work with the factory hardtop, here's one I was testing with a factory top:







The molds for the barn door exist and more can be made, if any company or person is interested in putting them in production I'll be happy to discuss it with them.



The fiberglass half door uppers exist too, the molds for them are done. Here's the first set of 4 out of the molds:







Same with those, if any company or person is interested in putting them in production I'll be happy to discuss it with them.



One thing I haven't done yet (you didn't mention it but I will) are roll-up soft sides for the modular hardtop. I've done them for my JKU modular Safari Cab and for my LJ Safari Cab, but because I haven't had a 2dr to put the modular top on I haven't be able to sew them. These are the ones on the JKU modualr top...











And on the LJ:







The same design will work on the modular factory hardtop; hopefully I'll get time to sew a set before Robert claims the Jeep .
You made some for friends, but not one for me?! I'm hurt! That modular hard top is absolutely amazing! I'd buy one or bring mine to you and pay to have it done to mine. I can't possibly like this post enough

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I didn't even know you were my friend until just now .

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That modular hard top is absolutely amazing! I'd buy one or bring mine to you and pay to have it done to mine. I can't possibly like this post enough
The modular hardtop is a DIY conversion of a factory hardtop, check out the instructions in the link I posted. I've done two so far, it's a bit of work but not too difficult.

Stay tuned I'll be installing one on Robert's Jeep as soon as I get time, hopefully by next weekend.
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Looks good.

Gotta love that those PSU tuition payments are over. In state is bad enough, and I imagine out of state tuition is almost double.
Thanks.

I've been very happy to make the investment in the kids' futures. All three are off to a great start with good careers. Didn't have to pay for one advanced degree though, Robert's big sister Kristen got a full scholarship to law school at Boston University. As a dad I've got lots of reasons to be proud of Robert, Alex and Kristen.
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Thanks. The first few things I'll be doing will be to test install some of the things I've already done for the JKU, such as:

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Do a version of the Overhead/Swing-Down Molle Panel for the 2dr. The 4dr version is in production and being released within 2 weeks (I'm told shipping April 9), so I'll get one of the first production ones and prototype the new mounts for it so it fits the 2dr. The company expects to put that in production shortly after I turn over the design info to them.
Looking forward to this.

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A 2dr ammo can carrier would be high on my list.

If you could design a version of this at a less expensive price point or as a DIY.

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The modular hardtop is a DIY conversion of a factory hardtop, check out the instructions in the link I posted. I've done two so far, it's a bit of work but not too difficult.



Stay tuned I'll be installing one on Robert's Jeep as soon as I get time, hopefully by next weekend.
Hahahaha! Yeah you didn't know?! I'll stay tuned!

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A 2dr ammo can carrier would be high on my list.

That is on my design list. The JKU version I designed has been on the market for a while now. I plan to do a 2dr version with a similar design.



I've also done an LJ version, which has a bit of the same rear seat interference issue that the JK2 has, so the new design may borrow some details from the LJ version.



When I get to that project I'll be looking for input from people on a few of the details, stay tuned.
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That is on my design list. The JKU version I designed has been on the market for a while now. I plan to do a 2dr version with a similar design.



When I get to that project I'll be looking for input from people on a few of the details, stay tuned.
I have had my rear seat out since I bought the Jeep in 14 with no plans to put it back in so the carrier with the molle panel would be killer.
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