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Old 02-15-2019, 05:04 PM   #181
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Forget those other rigs. You need to pick up a certain Chevy from the late 60's and then you would have a bad ass rig and be a classic rocker............

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You will 100% miss the Jeep. Which is ok. It will make you appreciate the next Wrangler you get and soften the blow of what may be a six-figure purchase!
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In hindsight, I should have bought a 2-door Recon instead of a 4-door; I would have a Recon 2-door and used Grand Cherokee V8 --or some 4-door truck-- sitting in my garage by now. But it makes zero financial sense to sell my 4-door Recon and buy a 2-door Recon at this point.

So I haven't quite decided to get rid of the Recon yet.

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Forget those other rigs. You need to pick up a certain Chevy from the late 60's and then you would have a bad ass rig and be a classic rocker............
Does it have to be from 60s? These ones are way cheaper!

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Hereís a perspective from someone who just did the opposite; traded in my 14 GC with the Hemi & 8 speed for an 18 JKU.
I can tell you I loved my GC for road driving! Acceleration is quick, the ride is so smooth, and the fuel economy on a diesel canít be beat...but even Trail Rated the GC is a very limited trail beast. Low ground clearance, passenger tires, that suspension and larger wheel base that makes it a dream in the highway does it no favours on the trail.
The GC diesel is an incredible machine, and Iwould buy one again for a a day-to-day vehicle without hesitation, but it was built to be a town car that can eat up highways in comfort, not as a trail beast.
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Hereís a perspective from someone who just did the opposite; traded in my 14 GC with the Hemi & 8 speed for an 18 JKU.
I can tell you I loved my GC for road driving! Acceleration is quick, the ride is so smooth, and the fuel economy on a diesel canít be beat...but even Trail Rated the GC is a very limited trail beast. Low ground clearance, passenger tires, that suspension and larger wheel base that makes it a dream in the highway does it no favours on the trail.
The GC diesel is an incredible machine, and Iwould buy one again for a a day-to-day vehicle without hesitation, but it was built to be a town car that can eat up highways in comfort, not as a trail beast.
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Hereís a perspective from someone who just did the opposite; traded in my 14 GC with the Hemi & 8 speed for an 18 JKU.
I can tell you I loved my GC for road driving! Acceleration is quick, the ride is so smooth, and the fuel economy on a diesel canít be beat...
I'm confused..... when did FCA build a Hemi Diesel?
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I'm confused..... when did FCA build a Hemi Diesel?
Never heard of the DEMI?

Me either...
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Never heard of the DEMI?

Me either...
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Forget those other rigs. You need to pick up a certain Chevy from the late 60's and then you would have a bad ass rig and be a classic rocker............

Pretty sure you are confusing old-o-Nova and Aldo Nova....but maybe I am confused....
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Pretty sure you are confusing old-o-Nova and Aldo Nova....but maybe I am confused....
No confusion here my man. Like this.......except Aldo's chariot coming in hot on this one looks a lot more like a heli than a Chevy

Dude is bangin' the leopard onesie too man - priceless.

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"Dude is bangin' the leopard onesie too man - priceless."


sooo glad I did not type those words.....
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I'm confused..... when did FCA build a Hemi Diesel?
They had special technicians on the assembly line known as Diesel Fitters

Micks job is to place the panties on his head and say,"Yep diesel fitter"
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I finally got a JK Recon after waiting 5 plus years and owning a WK Overland Diesel (not the Hemi though🤔[IMG class=inlineimg]https://www.wranglerforum.com/../images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]. I am not there to enjoy the Wrangler. Will be getting a new GC or equivalent for the wife when I get home. The GC is an amazing vehicle for 90% of the time. BUT it is not cool, doors are hard to remove and that sunroof just does not cut it.

Now when they slap the 3.0 Diesel in the new JL I will be in a pickle.

People do not buy Wranglers and honestly say that it is a great ride it is a pig with the staggers and jags but I love it, wife hates it. Can not wait to get the soft top on and rock it for summer.
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The weather up here in the Pacific Northwest has been uncharacteristically dry, bright and sunny over the past several weeks. So yesterday I test drove a Fiat 124 Spider Abarth 6-speed manual. Now I am in trouble: I like it a lot better than I expected.

The trouble starts the moment I drop myself into the seat and find that (a) my 6-foot frame actually fits in the car, and (b) those minimalistic Italian seats are surprising comfortable.

The trouble continues when I start the engine and hear that tiny 1.4 liter turbo come to live. It sounds a lot bigger and meaner than its size suggests. And it is a blast to drive. Particularly on a car that weighs as much as my winter coat. The turbo boost comes at mid-range, where you need it most, and the light turbo lag only adds to the fun. The suspension is stiff but much more compliant and comfortable than I expected, and handles like it is on rails. The top is a breeze to put down and up.

I checked the reviews online and there really aren’t very many issues with the car. Overall the Fiat feels a lot more refined, and the interior is quieter than either my 2001 Miata or 2006 S2000; even cruising at 70 MPH on the freeway with the top down.

I’d prefer a lightly used one, but there aren’t very many out there.

I used to think Italians were good only at making cheese, olive oil and anchovies. Now I have to add tiny sports cars. Especially when they are built in Japan.

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looks like fun. Be a great second weekend car. DD not so much.
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looks like fun. Be a great second weekend car. DD not so much.
Indeed. I work from home now, so I donít have a commute anymore. But I think itís stupid to have two vehicles parked in the garage all day.

Maybe I just need to get over that...
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Not even this?

Definitely not that. I like 4 wheels.
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The weather up here in the Pacific Northwest has been uncharacteristically dry, bright and sunny over the past several weeks. So yesterday I test drove a Fiat 124 Spider Abarth 6-speed manual. Now I am in trouble: I like it a lot better than I expected.

The trouble starts the moment I drop myself into the seat and find that (a) my 6-foot frame actually fits in the car, and (b) those minimalistic Italian seats are surprising comfortable.

The trouble continues when I start the engine and hear that tiny 1.4 liter turbo come to live. It sounds a lot bigger and meaner than its size suggests. And it is a blast to drive. Particularly on a car that weighs as much as my winter coat. The turbo boost comes at mid-range, where you need it most, and the light turbo lag only adds to the fun. The suspension is stiff but much more compliant and comfortable than I expected, and handles like it is on rails. The top is a breeze to put down and up.

I checked the reviews online and there really arenít very many issues with the car. Overall the Fiat feels a lot more refined, and the interior is quieter than either my 2001 Miata or 2006 S2000; even cruising at 70 MPH on the freeway with the top down.

Iíd prefer a lightly used one, but there arenít very many out there.

I used to think Italians were good only at making cheese, olive oil and anchovies. Now I have to add tiny sports cars. Especially when they are built in Japan.

Argh!!!





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Just remember... it is the same Fiat quality that comes with your Jeep
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Just remember... it is the same Fiat quality that comes with your Jeep
Actually, it is made in Japan by Mazda, alongside Miata.
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Okay. I listened to what y'all had to say and you are right: I should keep the JKU. I got rid of my Wrangler before only to miss it dearly. And yes, a WK2, as nice as they are, just wouldn't be the same.

Still, I miss driving something more engaging.

After driving that Fiat 124 Spider last week I just couldn't shake it out of my head. That car is everything a Jeep is not, and vice versa: it only weighs 2,400 lbs, your but sits 4 inches off the ground, corners like it is on rails, the transmission is a blast to shift, the engine loves to rev and the exhaust sounds like it went to opera school. And I love the way it looks.

I also looked at Mazda Miata; they sell more of those, cost a couple thousand less, and we have a Mazda dealer in town. Both cars are built next to each other in Japan; everything I read about both cars was overwhelmingly positive, including reliability. But I just couldn't get as excited about the Mazda. The design is not as interesting, the exhaust doesn't sound as good, the steering and suspension don't feel as buttoned down, the engine doesn't feel as eager, the ride and the cabin don't feel as refined. The Fiat also comes with a 4-year warranty, instead of Mazda's 3-year.

So I worked out a good deal on a leftover 2018 Abarth 6-speed in red and black --see below. If everything goes well, I should pick it up on Wednesday.

I think the Jeep and the Spider will complement each other well. Wish me luck!

PS1 - my 88-year old dad is more excited than I am. We are planning to ride the train 120 miles south to Tacoma; pick up the car and drive it home.

PS2 - the Fiat Spider forums are a LOT quieter than the Wrangler forums. But Spider offers gobs of modification opportunities; the fact that it already comes turbocharged from the factory makes adding HP much easier than on Miata.







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The lack of a manual transmission would eliminate the GC for me. It's one of the main reason's I'm back in a Jeep. I had a 91 XJ and a 98 TJ before going to a truck, the kids were getting big enough to need more room than my extended cab truck, and I fell in love with the JKU. When the kids are both driving, I'll get a 2 door JL.
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very nice. Please refrain from posting photos or videos of the new car because I simply am easily persuaded to do foolish things....
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