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Old 11-12-2019, 10:06 AM
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Kenwood DMX906S or Pioneer W4500NEX

Looking for input,moving on from my 130s radio in my 16 HR Unlim. Trying install myself and going to pull the trigger if I find a great Black Fri deal.

I was dead set on the pioneer but the Kenwood is intriguing...new iphone user that jumped ship from android. Thx

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I have the Kenwood for 2 month now and very happy. The eq and other features real bring the stock speakers to life. Using CarPlay, Waze is on the screen instead of the small phone. Other times, bluetooth is used for Pandora. Only downside is no volume knob.
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Did you consider the Pioneer HU by any chance? Thanks for input
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I just shopped around looking at different radios in the price range. Don't really remember which ones I compared to. I ended up on Crutchfield website and called them. They never steered me wrong in the past and they recommended the Kenwood. It has all I wanted so I went for it. Big improvement over the stock unit.
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Great advise, I have bought from them years prior.Did you get a rear cam by chance?
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I had the Pioneer 4500NEX installed this summer. It's great. I used Android Auto, but it can be configured for Apple Car Play. One of the reasons I went with the 4500NEX was for the removable face plate. I have a hard top, but I take off every chance I get and can remove the face plate if I'm leaving it unattended for a period of time.
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Did you install it yourself?, I don't want to but I think I may attempt it.
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Great advise, I have bought from them years prior.Did you get a rear cam by chance?
Yes and a front cam also mounted in the passenger frame. Protected there and I can see where to place the tire while crawling. Not too useful, but couldn't stand to have the option and not use it.
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Yes and a front cam also mounted in the passenger frame. Protected there and I can see where to place the tire while crawling. Not too useful, but couldn't stand to have the option and not use it.


I did the same but on my pioneer. It bothered me to have a second camera Input and not use it so I added a front facing camera.


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IMO I think has Kenwood has better sound but I like the EQ section of the Pioneer better. I have had both top of the line models.
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Several weeks ago I replaced the 130n with a Kenwood 7706S. It's not the super high end Kenwood but it has all the features I needed. Be sure to get the iDatalink Maestro RR Interface Module so all your steering wheels controls will work regardless of what unit you buy. I also recommend getting the premade wiring harness from Crutchfield as it greatly simplifies your install. I got everything I needed from Crutchfield for about 550 dollars.
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I had the pioneer 4200nex and the Kenwood 9903s.... pretty comparable units.... Indeed got rid of them both for something else I like better but that's another story.
I preferred the Kenwood. The pioneer I think had a slightly better menu system but the Kenwood had the better overall quality as well as more flexibility and adjustment.
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Thanks guys,very helpful
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Did i read somewhere the the DMX906S supports dynamic guidelines on the backup camera when using the Idatalink? Or was that just a rumor. I am considering these units as well.
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I am having the Pioneer AVH 2500NEX installed in my Wrangler tomorrow along with a backup camera 👍
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I am having the Pioneer AVH 2500NEX installed in my Wrangler tomorrow along with a backup camera 👍
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Did i read somewhere the the DMX906S supports dynamic guidelines on the backup camera when using the Idatalink? Or was that just a rumor. I am considering these units as well.
Got this from specs...

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Parking guide lines (requires installation of compatible backup camera) that enhance the effectiveness of a backup camera

Im thinking of the $149 Brandmotion spare tire mount one, hope it's compatible.
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Got this from specs...

Parking GuideLines
Parking guide lines (requires installation of compatible backup camera) that enhance the effectiveness of a backup camera

Im thinking of the $149 Brandmotion spare tire mount one, hope it's compatible.
I installed this one from Master Tailgaters (don't say that 3 times fast) for 80 bucks from Amazon. Works fine, can be adjusted pretty easy and the picture is very sharp even at night. Also it's compatible with my Kenwood parking lines but I found they were unnecessary and don't use them.

FWIW the couple of days we had rain and a little snow the camera stayed pretty clean because of it's location. My 2017 F150 camera is hard to see much when it gets wet because of it's location in the tailgate. So far this mounting location on my Jeep seems far superior.

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I installed this one from Master Tailgaters (don't say that 3 times fast) for 80 bucks from Amazon. Works fine, can be adjusted pretty easy and the picture is very sharp even at night. Also it's compatible with my Kenwood parking lines but I found they were unnecessary and don't use them.

FWIW the couple of days we had rain and a little snow the camera stayed pretty clean because of it's location. My 2017 F150 camera is hard to see much when it gets wet because of it's location in the tailgate. So far this mounting location on my Jeep seems far superior.

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Did you tap into the reverse light wire for power or some other way?
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Did you tap into the reverse light wire for power or some other way?
Tapped into the rear tail light which is a piece of cake to do. You can run the camera wire into the tail gate then into the passenger side on the inside. Then you can remove the tail light poke the reverse wire from the inside into the tail light cavity and tap into the reverse wire. What's nice is you can do that standing outside of the jeep with the tail light removed. I don't remember what color wire but I used a simple tester to find the reverse light power wire. Turn your key on put the vehicle in reverse and simply test which wire is hot. Shift it out of reverse to make sure you have the correct wire as it will no longer be hot.

With the camera I used there was plenty of wire so there was no need to splice anything. It took me about 30 mins to get it wired and then ran the wires under the carpet along the passenger side to the head unit. There are no wires showing including coming through the tail gate so it's nice and clean install.
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Kenwood has a capacitive touch panel screen vs the clear resistive on the Pioneer. I would get the Kenwood. The screen will look better, especially in sunlight and likely be more responsive. Ever since Kenwood went to a Linux based OS they tend to have very little lag.
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Kenwood has a capacitive touch panel screen vs the clear resistive on the Pioneer. I would get the Kenwood. The screen will look better, especially in sunlight and likely be more responsive. Ever since Kenwood went to a Linux based OS they tend to have very little lag.


My pioneer sucks in sunlight. Not something I thought about before I purchased.


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Kenwood has a capacitive touch panel screen vs the clear resistive on the Pioneer. I would get the Kenwood. The screen will look better, especially in sunlight and likely be more responsive. Ever since Kenwood went to a Linux based OS they tend to have very little lag.
Completely agree with this comment. My Kenwood has almost zero lag time when using it. I start my jeep up and the screen is on almost instantly for the backup cam as example. This is my 3rd Kenwood head unit and all have performed well.
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We have a Kenwood DDX6905S in our 2-Door Wrangler. The screen is very viewable even on bright sunny days. The screen is very quick to respond and Android Auto works very well on it. What ever you decide on I highly recommend including the harness (or what ever it is) that integrates the unit to the vehicle system. My setup uses all the same steering wheel buttons as the OEM which is really handy and adds a lot to the safe use and enjoyment of the system.
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My W4500NEX is also very visible in sunlight. The old Pioneer that was in there was a AVIC-X930BT and it was terrible in the sunlight.

I was able to get the W4500NEX for $100 off and free installation this past summer at BestBuy.
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Did you tap into the reverse light wire for power or some other way?

If you take power from the reverse light then you will not be able to take advantage of the manual override button to use the cam as a monitor while forward driving. You're better off taking power from any RUN or ACCESSORY wire.
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If you take power from the reverse light then you will not be able to take advantage of the manual override button to use the cam as a monitor while forward driving. You're better off taking power from any RUN or ACCESSORY wire.
If it's not wired to reverse power wire how is it going to automatically turn on the camera when the tranny is put into reverse? Just wondering
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My W4500NEX is also very visible in sunlight. The old Pioneer that was in there was a AVIC-X930BT and it was terrible in the sunlight.

I was able to get the W4500NEX for $100 off and free installation this past summer at BestBuy.
How was Best Buy with install, did they seem to do a clean, wrangler specific install. Did they find a good spot for the mic, usb's, etc?
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If it's not wired to reverse power wire how is it going to automatically turn on the camera when the tranny is put into reverse? Just wondering


The camera will always be on so the camera wonít need to automatically turn on. The radio is wired so it knows when you are in reverse.

When I had an issue getting power to my backup camera the radio flipped to the camera but I just had a black screen since the camera had no power.


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The camera will always be on so the camera won’t need to automatically turn on. The radio is wired so it knows when you are in reverse.

When I had an issue getting power to my backup camera the radio flipped to the camera but I just had a black screen since the camera had no power.


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Does this prematurely wear out the camera iyo? If not, what wire and where did you splice...cigarette lighter? Is something else needed to splice in front?
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