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Old 12-06-2019, 03:10 PM
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LED Headlights

Hey guys, new to the forums here. I've searched as much as I can and haven't found a good answer. I'm looking to upgrade my 2013 JK stock headlights to LEDs and I came up with some criteria that most people seem to want, myself included, but I can't find a headlight that meets all of them and most headlights donít meet more than half.

1. LED with anti-flicker, preferably built in.
2. Projector headlight
3. halo or half halo (this is a personal aesthetic preference, everyone is entitled to their opinion)
4. option for heated (Is it necessary? maybe, but might worth the extra $50-100 imo)
5. Multiple modes of operation
a- low beam. b- high beam. c- halo DRL in white or amber. d- halo turn signal in amber.
6. Good beam pattern
7. plug-n-play, minimal wiring.
8. Reliable (vague but important)
9. ďGood PriceĒ I know you get what you pay for so Iím not looking for $80 imported knockoffs, but I also donít want to pay an arm and a leg for it.

So far the JW Speaker 8700 J2 is extremely close to fitting the bill, but for such a pricey product, I would want all the extra bells and whistles with DRL and turn signals.
New from Quadratec on sale for $625, normally $800
New from Amazon: $440, is this real? (not heated)
https://www.amazon.com/JW-Speaker-55...ef_=ast_bbp_dp

I also like the Quadratec branded, built by JWS, LED headlights for $500, +$100 for heated. But it doesnít have a halo or multiple modes, and itís still relatively expensive.
https://www.quadratec.com/p/quadrate...ep-wrangler-jk

Some headlights on Amazon look appealing and have decent reviews for $150-300, but it is hard to judge their reliability and beam pattern, which are arguably the most important criteria.
https://www.amazon.com/Xprite-Headli...-items&sr=1-23

Iíd love to hear peopleís thoughts, regrets, or recommendations on their headlight set ups, and their headlights.
Thanks!

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The JW Speaker Evolution J2ís do have DRL capability. They are compatible with the low power high beam factory setting that can be turned on using a programmer. They donít have turn signal functionality, but you said you wanted plug-n-play, which you wonít get with any light with turn signal functionality since the wiring is not there. JW Speaker does offer a light with turn signals, but it is pricey.


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I just installed my 8700 dual burn speakers from 4wheel parts. 447.00 plus 24.00 tax. free shipping. black friday sale. was shocked at how well they light up the road. I live in the woods outside Lacrosse Wi. deer everywhere around here. low beams are brighter than the stock lights on hi beam. the speaker dual burn hi beams light the road like nothing I have ever experienced with any lighting system. not only does the beam travel way down the road,the sides of the road are lit up so you can see any critters popping out of the woods.it't like daylight. best investment I have made.
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forgot to say,just remove the 6 reusable plastic retainers from the grill install headlamps,plug and play. reinstall grill ,done 20 min, only had these for 3 days ,no headlamp flickering at night. told my wife the first night, lets go for a ride you have to see how bright these lights are. her response, it,s 11 degrees outside hell no. they put the fun back into night driving.
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I think JW lights could do better with their beam pattern. I have them and don’t like the pattern. It’s bright for sure.
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I think JW lights could do better with their beam pattern. I have them and donít like the pattern. Itís bright for sure.
Which ones, and did you align them? My JW's have a great pattern; flat across the top, low enough to not blind me with speed limit sign reflection on low beam, and fills in everywhere the fogs do.

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I’ve just fitted JW Speaker lights to mine. Had to wire into the fuse box to get the DRL function (but we get slightly different DRL functionality over here). Out of the box quality of the JW’s is really good. They look much better made than the Hella H4 we get as standard.
Either way, I think it’s one of those products that you don’t want to go for lowest price.
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I am having the same headache and was wondering if its just a plug and play install, what do I do with the parking light thats already wired in to the existing headlight? I have a 2012 JK. Does this mean I need to do some modifications to the wiring on a plug and play set up ?
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I am fortunate in that my Chief came from the factory with Mopar LEDs standard (as all '17 Saharas and Rubicon's did at that time). They convinced me to go with LEDs in my TJ. Since I live in the south and heated lights is not a concern, and didn't care about the DRLs or turn signals, I went with the Quadratec Gen IIs. Every time I now drive the TJ, I am amazed at how well they light up the road. The also don't appear to blind oncoming traffic since I never get flashed at.

The low beams are about equal with the Gen IIs slightly better, and the high beams are definitely better. (Not enough to change out the Mopars though). But the Gen IIs only satisfy your items 1, 6, 7, 8 and 9. The kits for the Gen IIs for the JK are different from the ones for the CJ/TJ only in that the former come with the anti-flicker module which also serves as the H13 to H4 adapter harness.
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I am having the same headache and was wondering if its just a plug and play install, what do I do with the parking light thats already wired in to the existing headlight? I have a 2012 JK. Does this mean I need to do some modifications to the wiring on a plug and play set up ?
Seems pretty straightforward plugíníplay. Mine was a little more complex because of Euro spec DRL, etc.

https://www.jwspeaker.com/wp-content...tion-sheet.pdf
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In the area of DRLs if you want to run them, I swapped mine to my fog lamps in lieu of the primary headlights. Don't really care if I burn out fogs.

This might mitigate your need to run DRLs in your headlamps.
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I just installed my 8700 dual burn speakers from 4wheel parts. 447.00 plus 24.00 tax. free shipping. black friday sale.
OK4WD had them for $419 free shipping no tax.
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Hey I am cheep, below 200$ I ordered LX Lights rhlfl747 (7"beams and fogs) on amazon, easy to install very decent pattern and brightness (10 times better than stock 2017JK), I finally resolved my question of the DRLs issue being high beams with a Vgat Icar and OSB JScan.
small adjustment for the passenger side beam other then that looks like a 1000$ job...
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Hey I am cheep, below 200$ I ordered LX Lights rhlfl747 (7"beams and fogs) on amazon, easy to install very decent pattern and brightness (10 times better than stock 2017JK), I finally resolved my question of the DRLs issue being high beams with a Vgat Icar and OSB JScan.
small adjustment for the passenger side beam other then that looks like a 1000$ job...
Those lights are beyond awful. Those are exactly the ones I ripped out yesterday to install the JW Speakers I bought on Black Friday. Stock headlights are better than the LX Lights off Amazon.
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Good I thought I was the only one buying the cheep lights, how long did they last you Rusty ? come on they are better than stock !!!
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Good I thought I was the only one buying the cheep lights, how long did they last you Rusty ? come on they are better than stock !!!
I put them in a few months ago and instantly realized they were awful. The light color is way too blue (ricer blue) and they have a terrible low beam and even worse high beam. They got moisture inside the lenses almost immediately. The stock incandescent lights outperform these no question. I'm somewhat happy with the JW Speaker 8700 Evo J's I installed yesterday, but the beam pattern isn't nearly as good as the Pro Comp's I had for about a week. Too bad Pro Comp had a defective batch or else I'd have those again. The Pro Comp's low beam is much better and their high beam is great, but I'm not rolling the dice on any more Chinese made lights. Here is how I'd rank the 4 sets of lights I've had since May.


1) Pro Comp (but defective & returned)
2) JW Speaker 8700 Evo J2
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ok so i should keep the stock lights and not resale them just in case I get moisture and frost, just checked your JW on web, they are twice the price I paid per light here, oufff maybe next time!
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The JW Speaker Evolution J2ís do have DRL capability. They are compatible with the low power high beam factory setting that can be turned on using a programmer. They donít have turn signal functionality, but you said you wanted plug-n-play, which you wonít get with any light with turn signal functionality since the wiring is not there. JW Speaker does offer a light with turn signals, but it is pricey.


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Thanks! and yes I'm realizing now my request for DRL and turn signal halos that are plug n play is contradictory. After watching some how to videos on YouTube I can definitely handle some wiring, though plug n play would be preferred.

And I like your suggestion for the programmer. A quick look shows those run around $200 +/- and combined with The Rusty Jeep suggesting buying from OK4WD for $420 on sale makes it much more palatable. I can even just wait to get the programmer and see if I like it enough without the halo DRL's

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The JW Speaker Evolution J2ís do have DRL capability. They are compatible with the low power high beam factory setting that can be turned on using a programmer. They donít have turn signal functionality, but you said you wanted plug-n-play, which you wonít get with any light with turn signal functionality since the wiring is not there. JW Speaker does offer a light with turn signals, but it is pricey.


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Thanks! I now realize that wanting plug n play DRL/turn signal halos is contradictory. I've watched a few how to's on YouTube and I can handle some wiring, but plug n play is still preferred.

I like your suggestion for the programmer. I'm seeing them for about $200+/-, does that sound about right? That combined with The Rusty Jeep suggestion to get the JW Speaker J2's from OK4WD on sale for $420 makes it much more palatable.

OK4WD only has the non-heated versions though, does anyone else think that the heater is really needed for LED headlights? I like in Cleveland Ohio so the winters are tough (maybe not Minnesota, Rocky Mountains, or Canada tough, but still significant). the heated option seems to usually be a $100 adder which I would be ok with, but with the non-heated being on sale for $200 off, its now more like a $300, almost 200%, adder.
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also check osb JScan as a cheaper option to a programmer...
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Just installed the KC Hilites Pro 7" and I absolutely love them. I highly recommend
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I'm selling a pair of Quadratec branded, built by JWS, LED headlights. Only used 8 months.
Check out my thread in "JK parts" section, if interested.
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Thanks! I now realize that wanting plug n play DRL/turn signal halos is contradictory. I've watched a few how to's on YouTube and I can handle some wiring, but plug n play is still preferred.



I like your suggestion for the programmer. I'm seeing them for about $200+/-, does that sound about right? That combined with The Rusty Jeep suggestion to get the JW Speaker J2's from OK4WD on sale for $420 makes it much more palatable.



OK4WD only has the non-heated versions though, does anyone else think that the heater is really needed for LED headlights? I like in Cleveland Ohio so the winters are tough (maybe not Minnesota, Rocky Mountains, or Canada tough, but still significant). the heated option seems to usually be a $100 adder which I would be ok with, but with the non-heated being on sale for $200 off, its now more like a $300, almost 200%, adder.


I used the AEV ProCal for mine, which I think I paid $125 for in 2013. Most are now using the JScan app from their phones with a Bluetooth OBDII plug. I think that the plugs run like $25 and the app is free, though there is a fee to enable certain parameters.


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If you need heated, look at Quadratec's LED light. It's built with JW Speaker, designed like the previous Evo 2.

If you buy JW Speaker, spend the little extra to buy from an good authorized dealer. If you have a warranty issue you'll be going through the dealer you bought from, not JW Speaker.
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Mopar sells LED lights now..

15% off with coupon until 12/31/19. You get the coupon from the Mopar website promotions, and have to buy the parts through a dealer to use the coupon apparently.
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I have a pair of $70 LED lights off Amazon. Smoked covers and they light up the road with no flicker. I don't see the point in paying seven times that but maybe I'm just ignorant.
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I have a pair of $70 LED lights off Amazon. Smoked covers and they light up the road with no flicker. I don't see the point in paying seven times that but maybe I'm just ignorant.


The lights you purchased may be just fine, but in general the low cost LED headlights have been reported to have poor beam pattern, poor build quality, and short lifespan. Just because they put off a whiter light doesnít mean you can actually see more where you need to. The fact they put a smoked (read tinted) cover over the light source of an object whose sole purpose is to project light tells me it is an inefficient design that put more emphasis on asthetics than function.


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I have a pair of $70 LED lights off Amazon. Smoked covers and they light up the road with no flicker. I don't see the point in paying seven times that but maybe I'm just ignorant.

I did get the similar lights and fog combo, can replace it 3-4 times for the price of some lights discussed here, i have set DRL to low beam and no issues with ice build up yet here.
I did spend over 1000$ for a kenwood radio/gps replacement and cameras mind you.
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Replacing a set 3-4x because of bad quality as opposed to spending $300 for a quality set of lights from Quadratec (Gen II Stealth's) is penny wise and pound foolish. It's not just the build quality, it's the light beam projection, scatter and focus.

While you can actually get a decent, cheap LED, in most cases you won't. You might be happy with your $70 lights but I'll bet the oncoming motorists won't be.
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I have a pair of $70 LED lights off Amazon. Smoked covers and they light up the road with no flicker. I don't see the point in paying seven times that but maybe I'm just ignorant.
I have the same lights and they are far superior to stock. Aim them appropriately and they are fine for that price point.
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