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Old 03-12-2015, 09:55 PM
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Lift questions

Alright, I know everyone has seen a million "lift" posts so I apologize ahead of time...

Made up my mind and I'm going to end up with some 33's. My question involves additions to the Jeep after lifting. I plan on getting aftermarket bumpers(no winch) eventually. With the added weight from the bumpers will I need additional lift to compensate? So far all the advice I've gotten from WF has been amazing.

This is a daily driver so I'd like to keep it as smooth as possible. Original plan was to go with the Rubicon Express economy lift but I'm beginning think that might be a mistake. What do the experts recommend?

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Most lift kits are put into lift ranges expecting for heavy accessories especially bumpers and winches.

I'm no expert by any means, especially since I'm anxiously waiting the arrival of my first ever lift kit. I'm sure Starbrite or KJeeper will see the eventually and will chime in. I'm installing pretty much the go-to set up on this forum(possibly the world) for daily driver moderate lifts.

Parts list:
2.5" Teraflex lift kit without shocks(you'll get a better rear trackbar bracket with this one)

Teraflex Exhaust spacer kit(some will tell you it's not necessary on a lift this small, but it's cheap insurance for about $40) It moves your Y pipe back, so at full flex your driveshaft won't hit exhaust and melt your boot, which leads to premature DS failure.

Rancho Geometry Correction Brackets (these return the lower control arm angles to stock and make for a much smoother on road ride)

Northridge4x4 JK Grade 8 Bolt Kit(again, cheap insurance) This kit replaces all your factory suspension bolts with superior quality and properly sized grade 8 hardware. Can fix or prevent dreaded and hazardous Death Wobble.

I opted to replace my factory front trackbar when I do my lift. I'll be installing a Teraflex Monster Trackbar that is adjustable to recenter my front axle and is much tougher than the stock tb.

I also paired this with new Rancho 9000 shocks. You'll either need new shocks or if you want to use factory shocks you'll need shock adapters to increase the length. The Rancho part numbers are rs9000329 for front and rs9000330 for rear.

Keep an eye out in the next week or two for me to post a write up of install. Keep in mind that the most mechanical experience I have is changing my own oil, and replacing a VW Jetta clutch, once. I did manage to replace the factory front bumper and install a winch last month and my jeep hasn't blown up yet.

Anyway, I hope this rambling helps give you at least some idea of what's needed to do a moderate lift and sets you to planning your own mods! Good luck, whatever you choose.

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Thanks dealerjoe, your information helped me come across some other useful information. Lol I've got to pull the trigger soon or I'm going to lose my mind. Hopefully it's the right trigger. Hahahah


Not sure how I can follow you from my cell but I'll keep checking your posts to see how it turns out
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The RE lift you're considering is not bad but the TF lift is one of the most popular a step up in quality. Depending on the bumper and the coils the bumper can compress the coils by 0.5-1.0". The TF lift usually provides more lift than advertised anyway so it shouldn't be a big concern.

The geometry brackets are great recommendation but I prefer the AEV ones because they are adjustable for several lift heights. One you start lifting you may keep going.

The 9000XLs shocks are popular among drivers that prefer a more compliant ride but there are better options if that is not you main concern.

Check out some of threads on 2.5" lifts. There are dozens of them and you'll get a good idea of why some lift kits are better than other and what other parts you may want to add.
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The RE lift that I am comfortable recommending is the 2.5 with Mono's from Quadratec. It's a decent lift and a great value with the Bilstein shocks that it comes with.

Rubicon Express 2.5" Budget Boost Coil Suspension System with Monotube Shocks for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler JK 2 Door - Quadratec

Add Geo Brackets:

Rubicon Express RE9800 - Rubicon Express Control Arm Drop Brackets for 07-15 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

Very decent set up for the $$$.

Then you can put on the exhaust spacer and a front track bar when you are ready to "complete" it.

As for the TF set up, it's probably the most popular (wink wink) lift here on WF.

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I'm running pretty much the exact same setup as dealerjoe mentioned and it is sweet. Smooth ride and very comfortable. With no extra weight, I gained about 3 1/4 inches up front.
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How difficult would you say this would be as a DYI project? The two things I worry about messing with are the drivetrain and the suspension.

I'm thinking about leaving this to a pro. But that would also mean $500 - $600 in labor.
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I was fortunate and had guys from my jeep club help with the install. They had all the tools and knowledge. There were several times that two people were needed, not something I would try alone. It was also good to have that second jack and set of tools.
I would suggest to anyone to find a club and maybe they could help. It saved me $500 and I learned a good bit.
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I was fortunate and had guys from my jeep club help with the install. They had all the tools and knowledge. There were several times that two people were needed, not something I would try alone. It was also good to have that second jack and set of tools.
I would suggest to anyone to find a club and maybe they could help. It saved me $500 and I learned a good bit.
I actually just texted my cousin who is a mechanic. Turns out he just started this week at a Jeep dealer in the Chicago burbs. Said he could get me a deal on the labor.
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Even better, whatever you can do to save a dollar on installation. That dollar should be used on more mods.
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Most lift kits are put into lift ranges expecting for heavy accessories especially bumpers and winches.

I'm no expert by any means, especially since I'm anxiously waiting the arrival of my first ever lift kit. I'm sure Starbrite or KJeeper will see the eventually and will chime in. I'm installing pretty much the go-to set up on this forum(possibly the world) for daily driver moderate lifts.

Parts list:
2.5" Teraflex lift kit without shocks(you'll get a better rear trackbar bracket with this one)

Teraflex Exhaust spacer kit(some will tell you it's not necessary on a lift this small, but it's cheap insurance for about $40) It moves your Y pipe back, so at full flex your driveshaft won't hit exhaust and melt your boot, which leads to premature DS failure.

Rancho Geometry Correction Brackets (these return the lower control arm angles to stock and make for a much smoother on road ride)

Northridge4x4 JK Grade 8 Bolt Kit(again, cheap insurance) This kit replaces all your factory suspension bolts with superior quality and properly sized grade 8 hardware. Can fix or prevent dreaded and hazardous Death Wobble.

I opted to replace my factory front trackbar when I do my lift. I'll be installing a Teraflex Monster Trackbar that is adjustable to recenter my front axle and is much tougher than the stock tb.

I also paired this with new Rancho 9000 shocks. You'll either need new shocks or if you want to use factory shocks you'll need shock adapters to increase the length. The Rancho part numbers are rs9000329 for front and rs9000330 for rear.

Keep an eye out in the next week or two for me to post a write up of install. Keep in mind that the most mechanical experience I have is changing my own oil, and replacing a VW Jetta clutch, once. I did manage to replace the factory front bumper and install a winch last month and my jeep hasn't blown up yet.

Anyway, I hope this rambling helps give you at least some idea of what's needed to do a moderate lift and sets you to planning your own mods! Good luck, whatever you choose.

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whats your budget for these upgrades? im trying to figure out what i would need to spend
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whats your budget for these upgrades? im trying to figure out what i would need to spend
To do it all at once is about $1250 without labor. The exhaust spacers and track bar can be added at any time.

TF kit $500
Exhaust spacer $35
Control arm brackets $130
Bolt kit $50
Front track bar $200
Shocks $320 (if you buy now on rebate)
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If you go Rancho you can find the set of 4 for around $340, then fill out your rebate and get back $106. That makes them right around $60 apiece! Not a bad deal for a mod with major benefits that'll last!
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Oh an FYI Jason at KrawlOffroad is running a Name Your Price sale. And most vendors will price match. I was able to get everything minus the bolt kit for a big discount. Worth a shot!
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How difficult would you say this would be as a DYI project? The two things I worry about messing with are the drivetrain and the suspension.

I'm thinking about leaving this to a pro. But that would also mean $500 - $600 in labor.
It's not difficult at all. Do it yourself.

1) You'll learn about your Jeep's suspension which will help your butt on the trail or with someone else's rig

2) Save $

3) Probably get to buy a couple of new tools (what kind of guy doesn't like new tools?!)

4) Sense of pride and accomplishment
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It's not difficult at all. Do it yourself.

1) You'll learn about your Jeep's suspension which will help your butt on the trail or with someone else's rig

2) Save $

3) Probably get to buy a couple of new tools (what kind of guy doesn't like new tools?!)

4) Sense of pride and accomplishment
The more I read the more confident I'm becoming. Now to research the best lift!
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Check out the rancho 3 inch sport. With there rebate I just ordered mine with rs9000s off amazon for about $530. Too good a deal for me to pass up.
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The more I read the more confident I'm becoming. Now to research the best lift!
I've done every mod on my JK so far. The only one I won't be touching is when I regear.

Lift took me a day and a half taking my time as I can be a perfectionist sometimes.
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We did the 3.5 in long arm RE kit on my brothers jeep with fox shocks, liked the RE quality so we did the 2.5 with brackets and brake line brackets and shocks. Not bad! A couple hours and all is good!!! It's fun times when you have a hand in your own mods...

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