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Old 05-16-2017, 10:11 PM
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Looking at a used Jeep, need opinions and things to look for

Local dealer here just texted me some pictures of a jeep they just got in...its a 2015 rubi with 16k miles, has 3.73 gears instead of 4.10, but thats not a deal breaker. What do y'all think? Anything in particular I should be looking for here? Carfax shows it was serviced at a local dealer every 3k miles. They are asking 33,700 for it, KBB shows $34k to be a fair price in the local market. Thinking about going to take a look at it..



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It's a little odd for someone to put steel bumpers on it then get rid of it after only 16K. It's like a new vehicle. Look under neigh it really well to see it it's got dents and scratches from 4 wheeling. What kind of a warranty does it have ? BTW, it may very well be a deal breaker for me with those gears. You put bigger tires on and you'll have to regear, that ain't cheap.

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I agree on the bumpers. Gonna get under and see if there are any issues. Anything in particular to watch out for?

Waiting to hear back on warranty, it is a CPO, for whatever that's worth.

Planning to go to 4.56 when I upgrade tire size.
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I wouldn't worry about it having the relatively minor and common mod of steel bumpers, nor worry about someone trading/selling a 15 now; lol, we're just 3 months away from 18s being out, so he could have had it almost 3 years. With resale so high plenty of people just upgrade to a new one every year.

Plenty of reasons he could have gotten rid of it; remember the guy on here a month or two ago selling his late-model Jeep with a claimed $60k in mods? He had a health and financial setback, if I recall correctly. Of course, as with any vehicle, CarFax it and inspect it carefully.
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looks like good bumpers and led tail lights, PO prob was too hyped about having a wrangler and then ending up not liking how it drove and how crappy the gas mileage was and got rid of it and as for the gears it has its an auto not a manual
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And it already has larger tires, and all 5 look like they match. As a result of the larger tire the 3rd brake light is missing, but it does look like it has LED headlights.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:47 AM
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Thanks for the info y'all! Think I'm going to go take a look at it tonight and see how it goes!
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Any tips on testing electronic sway bar disconnects and lockers to see if they are functioning properly?

Any common issues on drivetrain for this model year?
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So I went and looked at the jeep this evening. As far as aftermarket, from what I can tell it has the following: trucklites head lights, 2 sets of rigid duallys, atlas front and rear bumpers, smittybuilt defender trail basket, alpline head unit, a pillar switch pod, volant CAI, and aftermarket muffler.

Tires are stock 255/75/17 and it appears there is no lift on it. It did have a winch at one point that was removed. I climbed under the jeep and found minor powder coat missing from the rock rails, but no dents, scratches, or gouges on the frame or skid plates indicating any major off-roading damage.

While test driving, it tracked straight and no death wobble up to 75 mph. The steering did feel a bit loose, but the 3 other jeeps in my family have loose feeling steering.

I'm scheduled to go back on Saturday and look at it again. Anything else I should check out on it? The wiring for the off-road lights was extremely neat and routed through relays.
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The flip side here is I'm also looking a new 2017 sport with the same options/axle gearing as the rubi. Its listed at $29.6k and has hail damage, that the dealer is claiming they will fix. The way I see it, I am getting a much better deal in drivetrain infrastructure alone, not taking into account the aftermarket parts, given the low miles on the rubi.

Any flaws to my logic here?
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If you can at all afford the Rubi might as well you'll just spent the money on the sport in the long run. Rubi has a D44 in the front the sport does not. The Rubi also has lockers front and rear and the electronic sway bar, which again the sport does not. The sport also comes stock with 16's and 29" tires. As for testing the sway bar I would just disconnect it on a test drive when your stopped and can drive around the block real slow. IMO you can tell very easily if the bar is disconnected. I've never personally had the chance to look under a Rubi and watch it work, most of my friends have some how ended up with Saharas, but sure you can tell. Definitely should also exercise the 4WD and make sure nothing funny happens just don't make any turns. You can engage it while moving.

Otherwise it seems like you have looked at things I would recommend. It looks like it had recently rained so I would certainly lift up the floor mats (if there are any) and see if you feel any moisture, lord knows theres plenty of people who have had their fair share of problems with leaky tops. Could even ask to take it through a car wash to double check, I've heard of people doing that as well.

I really wouldn't over think why the previous owner traded it, life throws things at people all the time. CAI is kind of odd though, don't hear about that often on jeeps. All other mods seem tasteful IMO.
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I wouldn't worry about the low miles. My '15 JK Rubie only had 6,800 on it when I bought it, but mine came from a rental company out of Ouray, CO, called Switzerland of America. Once I figured that out from the CarFax report, I called them and found out they only kept their Jeeps one, short, 3 month summer season, then sold them, and got a new fleet in the Spring. No sense paying for them for 9 winter months when they weren't earning any revenue. I worried and wondered about the low mileage also. Mine is like yours...except it's red, had a manual transmission, and had the 4.1 gears.

If you plan on taking it out, the sway bar disconnect and lockers are well worth it.
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That's real high for a two door, check Tempest Auto out and search all over for what your looking for.


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Check out the sticky thread at the top of the subforum:
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/so...e-2026289.html

I purchased my Rubicon brand new for not too much more than you're looking at for a 2-year-old 16k miles Rubicon. Depreciation being as low as it is with Wranglers, you may do better buying new and having 3 years / 36k of warranty than the 1 year/20k you'd have left on that Rubi.

The aftermarket parts are desireable enough, I suppose, to offset the balance, if it's all in the direction you want, and you love the color and options on it.

Personally, I'd call 33,700 a tad high for it, but that's me. If I were set on that particular Jeep as the one for me, I'd shoot an offer more in the 31,500 range and see if they'll play ball.

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The Vroom price on mine with only 6,800 miles on it was $31,800. Mine is a manual, so I don't know if that raised or lowered the price.
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More likely to add to the difficulty of such a decision rather than to help I suppose, but I thought I might mention two things.

I like trade my vehicles, Wranglers included, before the factory warranty goes out. I traded the 2010 for the 2013 and now the 2016 Rubicon, for example. Whoever picked these up from the dealer got well maintained and well cared for vehicles with the few mods that I was unable to swap over because of changes different MYs brought about. (Although I did see online that the dealer wanted what I paid for the 2013 - and got it!)

That being said, I like to have that warranty myself and, no matter what the existing mods may be, I would choose new over used any day. With a Wrangler holding its value (or at least the resale price) so well, I do not feel there is enough of a difference between new and used prices to make me go for a used one. I understand not everyone has the same financial thinking or ability, but trading every few years keeps me in an under-warranty vehicle (free service, etc.) for a couple thousand dollars a year (after my first/initial vehicle purchase forty years ago).

Post what you decide and don't forget pics!
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I'll give you a couple of suggestions from my used Jeep purchase.

I was eyeing my '14 JKU that only had 15K on it. The Jeep dealer selling it was asking just over $30K for it. Since this was my first Jeep and I was being cautious as it was still a used car, I asked the dealer if they would be willing to put it up on the rack in the service bay so I could inspect the underside more easily.

After a little anxiety from the sales person, they convinced the manager to let it happen. As a result, I got to walk around with a flashlight and look for sights of off-road wear and tear on the frame, axles and suspension. Although there was surface rust on the drive shafts and a couple of other spots, the only sign of off-road was some dried mud tucked around the bumpers.

So far, I've been very happy with my purchase.

One more thing: from the car fax report, I found that my Jeep was a '14 model that was first sold in January of 2015. Therefore, the clock on the warranty did not begin until its original sale date in 2015. So I have until January of 2018 under warranty. A lucky find that the dealer did not even mention.
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To update this thread...ended up getting a great deal on the jeep and walked out of the dealership a new JK owner!

I will probably swap out the bumpers down the road, and have already taken the trail rack off for now, until its needed again.

I somehow have also managed to already spend a ton of money ordering parts for this thing...this is going to be an expensive hobby! Ill try to get some pics up soon and post up a newbie thread!
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To update this thread...ended up getting a great deal on the jeep and walked out of the dealership a new JK owner!

I will probably swap out the bumpers down the road, and have already taken the trail rack off for now, until its needed again.

I somehow have also managed to already spend a ton of money ordering parts for this thing...this is going to be an expensive hobby! Ill try to get some pics up soon and post up a newbie thread!
Congrats on the new rig! (I assume you bought the white Rubi?)

Post up some pics asap!
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Congrats on your purchase! :]
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Congrats! ...


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And it already has larger tires, and all 5 look like they match. As a result of the larger tire the 3rd brake light is missing, but it does look like it has LED headlights.
Those aren't stock rubicon tires? They sure look like it
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I'll give you a couple of suggestions from my used Jeep purchase.

I was eyeing my '14 JKU that only had 15K on it. The Jeep dealer selling it was asking just over $30K for it. Since this was my first Jeep and I was being cautious as it was still a used car, I asked the dealer if they would be willing to put it up on the rack in the service bay so I could inspect the underside more easily.

After a little anxiety from the sales person, they convinced the manager to let it happen. As a result, I got to walk around with a flashlight and look for sights of off-road wear and tear on the frame, axles and suspension. Although there was surface rust on the drive shafts and a couple of other spots, the only sign of off-road was some dried mud tucked around the bumpers.

So far, I've been very happy with my purchase.

One more thing: from the car fax report, I found that my Jeep was a '14 model that was first sold in January of 2015. Therefore, the clock on the warranty did not begin until its original sale date in 2015. So I have until January of 2018 under warranty. A lucky find that the dealer did not even mention.
From my understanding, the warranty begins from the date of manufacture, not the sales date.
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From my understanding, the warranty begins from the date of manufacture, not the sales date.
Where I live it begins on date of purchase. I suppose it could be different elsewhere.
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Where I live it begins on date of purchase. I suppose it could be different elsewhere.
It is that way here as well. I do not know of anywhere that starts the warranty when the vehicle is built. I am pretty sure it is always from the date of original purchase.
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It is that way here as well. I do not know of anywhere that starts the warranty when the vehicle is built. I am pretty sure it is always from the date of original purchase.
Yep. Warranty starts on the date vehicle is registered to first owner. Build date is irrelevant.
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Those aren't stock rubicon tires? They sure look like it
Yes, they are the stock rubi tires (255/75/17). Jeep was never lifted, ended up finding the PO who was actually selling the lift he bought for the jeep and never installed it.
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To update this thread...ended up getting a great deal on the jeep and walked out of the dealership a new JK owner!

I will probably swap out the bumpers down the road, and have already taken the trail rack off for now, until its needed again.

I somehow have also managed to already spend a ton of money ordering parts for this thing...this is going to be an expensive hobby! Ill try to get some pics up soon and post up a newbie thread!
Best advice on spending a lot on your new Jeep: take your time and read the reviews. I know research can be a pain and everyone will have an opinion. But sometimes you will find people who have similar tastes as yourself. They can be good sources of info down the road.

I've probably wasted a couple hundred on parts, especially interior trinkets, that were just waste cuz they were not what I expected or I got tired of them already.

But everyone does it so don't expect to make perfect choices every time.

Congrats and have fun!
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From my understanding, the warranty begins from the date of manufacture, not the sales date.
It's the other way around. What if a dealer had a 2017 model year, built in late 2016, sitting on the lot for months? The buyer would lose out on months of warranty coverage if it were to begin on the date of manufacture. New car warranty coverage starts the day the buyer signs the papers and drives the vehicle off the lot.

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