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Old 01-23-2020, 06:27 PM
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Hello all,

I haven't had a Jeep or been on here for about 8 years now. My last Jeep was an '04 Rubicon.

I'm looking for a used JK Unlimited Rubicon but don't know anything about the newer Wranglers. What are things I should be on the look out for, known issues, what's considered too high of mileage for these things (I know a lot of it is based on how it was treated/taken care of etc) years to avoid etc?

I stopped at a dealership and was surprised to see the price on very high mileage Rubicons are going for. One was a 2015 Rubicon with 134,xxx miles and the dealer wanted $29K

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Definitely stay with the later redesign as it corrected many of the original flaws. Plus the 3.6 motor was way better than the weak 3.8
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I stopped at a dealership and was surprised to see the price on very high mileage Rubicons are going for. One was a 2015 Rubicon with 134,xxx miles and the dealer wanted $29K

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Paying for the name. Might look at a lower trim level and building it. I bought a 2017 JKU Sahara for under 26K about 3 months ago. 30,000 miles.



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I bought a super clean JKU sport with 24k miles for 18k in October. There's absolutely no way I'd pay those prices for ANY jeep with over 100k on it. Frankly when I was looking to buy a JKU I thought Rubicon's were over priced. Unless you absolutly need what Rubicon's offer you'll do better with a lower priced model. I can still spend 5 or 6 grand for all the upgrades I want and still be considerably under what a 2016 high mileage Rubicon would have cost me.
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Id like the Rubicon because it already has the 44 axles with lockers mainly. Some of the interior features are nice to have as well.

Ultimately I'd like to get set up as a LCG rig running 37's.
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I haven't had a Jeep or been on here for about 8 years now. My last Jeep was an '04 Rubicon.



I'm looking for a used JK Unlimited Rubicon but don't know anything about the newer Wranglers. What are things I should be on the look out for, known issues, what's considered too high of mileage for these things (I know a lot of it is based on how it was treated/taken care of etc) years to avoid etc?



I stopped at a dealership and was surprised to see the price on very high mileage Rubicons are going for. One was a 2015 Rubicon with 134,xxx miles and the dealer wanted $29K



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Hello all,

I haven't had a Jeep or been on here for about 8 years now. My last Jeep was an '04 Rubicon.

I'm looking for a used JK Unlimited Rubicon but don't know anything about the newer Wranglers. What are things I should be on the look out for, known issues, what's considered too high of mileage for these things (I know a lot of it is based on how it was treated/taken care of etc) years to avoid etc?

I stopped at a dealership and was surprised to see the price on very high mileage Rubicons are going for. One was a 2015 Rubicon with 134,xxx miles and the dealer wanted $29K

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Yeah that dealer was off his rocker with mileage that high.
Just bought a 2017 jku rubi with 46,000 miles for $32,000. And there were better deals than that but I didnt want a black interior. I wanted both dana 44s too. That rubicon trim level is gonna cost ya though. I would go 2013 or newer.
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I moved from YJs to a 13JKU 10A. I spent time and money build up my past Jeeps and this time I wanted a bit of a jump start. The 3.6;is definitely the better available motor as is the auto that comes with it. Every year has its quirks, but focus on the Jeep itself not the general issues for any specific year. Just use that information as you look at the Jeeps.

Where I live the 6spds tend to sit a long time and you may have a better chance of knocking the price down. I know I did.

I recommend buying one that is, and always was stock. Better to not buy one that may have inferior parts and work done to it. With a stock on you can build it right from the beginning or just enjoy it. Regardless, you will have less chance of issues from prior abuse this way.

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I looked for a long time and agree there are a lot of high mileage Jeeps out there that private owners and dealers think are worth way too much IMHO.

I found a 2010 with 37,000 miles for $18,000 in blue (my favorite color) and was thrilled after looking at the many NE rust buckets with 100K+ miles. Mine was originally from Florida so between that and the lower mileage my under metal parts were not bad at all. Certainly well within my ability to clean and paint and get many more miles out of.
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There are definitely descent priced Rubicon around the country, here in Colorado they demand a premium for any Wrangler. My wife's car is paid off and she wants to trade it for a Wrangler. Should be able to get $20k on trade.

I agree that going with an all stock is the best. When I mod my stuff I save up in order to use the best parts I can, not everyone does that.
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If you can find a Rubicon Recon... that’s the pinnacle of the stock world imho.

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Plenty of low mileage 2017-2018 Recons out there still.
I agree there area, but anything around here is $35k+ and I've seen used Rubicons for more than $40k.

We though we had a winner today, 2018 Rubicon, 4-door, low miles, $32k, pic looked great. We got to the dealership and both driver's side doors along with the rocker panel were dented and scrapped down to the bare metal, plus the front passenger door had been pried around (someone tried to break into it) and the door was all bent up. I mentioned these to the salesmen and he just replied, "It's still a Rubicon so we won't lower the price."

I might settle for a Sahara and do a front axle swap. Still leaves me with the lesser of the two transfer cases and no lockers though. Axle swap an lockers would be feasible to do but the transfer case wouldn't be due to price.
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I agree there area, but anything around here is $35k+ and I've seen used Rubicons for more than $40k.

We though we had a winner today, 2018 Rubicon, 4-door, low miles, $32k, pic looked great. We got to the dealership and both driver's side doors along with the rocker panel were dented and scrapped down to the bare metal, plus the front passenger door had been pried around (someone tried to break into it) and the door was all bent up. I mentioned these to the salesmen and he just replied, "It's still a Rubicon so we won't lower the price."

I might settle for a Sahara and do a front axle swap. Still leaves me with the lesser of the two transfer cases and no lockers though. Axle swap an lockers would be feasible to do but the transfer case wouldn't be due to price.
I hear ya.

My 2016 JKUHR was listed for 41k in Colorado (Echopark Thornton - August 2017) with 13k on it.
6 months later my local East TN Sonic Automotive Dealership sold it to me for 35.5k OTD.
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I've found a few in the 54,xxx mile range for about $30k. I don't know too much about these Penstar 3.6L's to know if 54K miles would be considered mid-life or still fresh. I know it has a lot to do with services and how it was taken care of.
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I've found a few in the 54,xxx mile range for about $30k. I don't know too much about these Penstar 3.6L's to know if 54K miles would be considered mid-life or still fresh. I know it has a lot to do with services and how it was taken care of.


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Id like the Rubicon because it already has the 44 axles with lockers mainly. Some of the interior features are nice to have as well.
What interior features? Rubicon doesn’t come with anything additional standard other than power locks/mirrors/windows.
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Id like the Rubicon because it already has the 44 axles with lockers mainly. Some of the interior features are nice to have as well.
What interior features? Rubicon doesn’t come with anything additional standard other than power locks/mirrors/windows.
So far, with the exception of two older Saharas, the Rubicon are the only we've found with heated leather, backup camera, navigation. Although non of these are deal breakers. This would be my wife primary vehicle and those are things she really likes. I can always add a different head unit and camera though.
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So far, with the exception of two older Saharas, the Rubicon are the only we've found with heated leather, backup camera, navigation. Although non of these are deal breakers. This would be my wife primary vehicle and those are things she really likes. I can always add a different head unit and camera though.
Heated seats, leather, navigation were all optional and not standard on Rubicon.

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I think more Sahara's came with heated leather seats than Rubicons.
There was a Sahara package that started out as the Back Country and became the Winter Edition, it had heated leather standard. The Rubicon Hard Rock may have had heated leather standard. But that one will demand a premium.
Axle swaps are fairly simple, and you can either find a used Rubicon front axle or upgrade to something like an Ultimate 44 or ProRock for a little more.
Even the transfer case isn't that expensive to upgrade, just swap in a used one from a Rubicon (or go better with an Atlas).
The farther you are going with the build, and 37's are pretty far, the better off you are starting with a lesser model and building it. To run 37's you don't need the 4.10 gears that a Rubicon might have. You need 4.88 or 5.13 gears. You can run the D44 front axle of a Rubicon, but you would be better off with a Ultimate 44 or a ProRock type axle.
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I think more Sahara's came with heated leather seats than Rubicons.
There was a Sahara package that started out as the Back Country and became the Winter Edition, it had heated leather standard. The Rubicon Hard Rock may have had heated leather standard. But that one will demand a premium.
Axle swaps are fairly simple, and you can either find a used Rubicon front axle or upgrade to something like an Ultimate 44 or ProRock for a little more.
Even the transfer case isn't that expensive to upgrade, just swap in a used one from a Rubicon (or go better with an Atlas).
The farther you are going with the build, and 37's are pretty far, the better off you are starting with a lesser model and building it. To run 37's you don't need the 4.10 gears that a Rubicon might have. You need 4.88 or 5.13 gears. You can run the D44 front axle of a Rubicon, but you would be better off with a Ultimate 44 or a ProRock type axle.
Seems like a lot of extra equipment expense for a primary everyday vehicle? I suppose if the wife is really into a lot of off roading then by all means go for it....
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I've found quite a few JKU Rubicons under 30k miles in the $30-34k range. I'll have to travel a bit to pick one up (drove 1k mile to get a 16 JKRHR with 11K miles) but the deals are out there.
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