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Old 02-27-2016, 08:15 PM
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Loss of power after installing lift and tires???

I finally put the lift and 35's on the jeep. I noticed I lost some house power. Not complaining, I guess if I wanted horse power I would have kept the 650i. My question is why? Are the tires heavier?


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I finally put the lift and 35's on the jeep. I noticed I lost some house power. Not complaining, I guess if I wanted horse power I would have kept the 650i. My question is why? Are the tires heavier?
Heavier and taller.

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Did you reprogram the computer with a Procal or Superchips? Next issue is gearing. What is your ratio? Next question is what motor? 3.6 or 3.8? Next question is what transmission? Auto or stick.

Sure the tires are heavier but my guess is your gear ratio is 3.21 or 3.73. You will surely notice a difference.
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Also depends on what gears you're running. I had 3.73's on my last Jeep, and after I lifted (2.5") and added 35's, it was pretty sluggish. I regeared to 4.56's and it helped a ton.

Edit - also what Captain Ed said ^^ - must've been posting at same time.
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Eh....ok.....I thought I would have to change the gear ratio if I went to 37's. Ok well I'm not a mechanic so I don't have any of the answers to your questions. But, it looks as though I should be asking. Thanks alot guys. Still love it! I don't care I'm putting around.
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Eh....ok.....I thought I would have to change the gear ratio if I went to 37's. Ok well I'm not a mechanic so I don't have any of the answers to your questions. But, it looks as though I should be asking. Thanks alot guys. Still love it! I don't care I'm putting around.
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Oh.....oh yeah! I will take pictures tomorrow and post thanks you guys
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I suggest a great place to start with these answers is to go get the factory build sheet for your jeep. It was suggested by another WF member and is wealth of information about your jeep. Of course if you bought it already modded, hopefully you purchased from the owner and not a dealer , as the owner would have chewed your ear off for an hour about the mods.
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Three reasons you feel like you lost power:

1) Heavier/larger tires have a higher moment of inertia, which requires more torque to accelerate them. When accelerating, more of the engine's torque/power is now "lost" to accelerating the tires themselves rather than being transferred to the road. This is only relevant when accelerating. When maintaining a steady speed, this has zero impact.

2) Larger tires reduce the mechanical advantage (leverage) the engine has against the ground. It's a similar effect as shifting into a higher transmission gear, or being in 4HI vs 4LO. If you ignore the effects of #1 above (such as driving at a steady speed so there's no acceleration involved), you haven't actually lost any power or torque. The torque is divided by the radius of the tire to determine the linear force against the road. Larger tire = less linear force against the road = less acceleration.

3) Big lift and big tires is less aerodynamic. At higher speeds (highway speeds and above), aerodynamic drag is quite substantial, especially with a brick on wheels (Jeep). Make the Jeep less aerodynamic, and now more power is "lost" to simply pushing the brick through the air, and less power is available to be transmitted to the ground.
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You can negate the effects on item #2 in my previous post by re-gearing the axles to increase the mechanical advantage, offsetting the decrease in mechanical advantage caused by the larger tires.

There's nothing you can do to directly regain the losses from #1 and #3 though (well, except for increasing power with a supercharger, turbo, or a bigger engine). The best you can do is over-compensate with the re-gearing for additional mechanical advantage. This does not give you more power, but in most normal street driving and off-road situations, it gives you easier access to the power that you do have available more quickly at lower speeds. It will feel more powerful, throttle will be more responsive in general, but you won't technically have more power.
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Reasons #1 and #2 also explain why the brakes may feel weaker too. With bigger tires, the brakes have less mechanical advantage against the ground to slow the Jeep, and more braking power is "lost" to slowing down the rotation of the tires themselves, with less power available for slowing down the linear motion of the Jeep.
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Three reasons you feel like you lost power:

1) Heavier/larger tires have a higher moment of inertia, which requires more torque to accelerate them. When accelerating, more of the engine's torque/power is now "lost" to accelerating the tires themselves rather than being transferred to the road. This is only relevant when accelerating. When maintaining a steady speed, this has zero impact.

2) Larger tires reduce the mechanical advantage (leverage) the engine has against the ground. It's a similar effect as shifting into a higher transmission gear, or being in 4HI vs 4LO. If you ignore the effects of #1 above (such as driving at a steady speed so there's no acceleration involved), you haven't actually lost any power or torque. The torque is divided by the radius of the tire to determine the linear force against the road. Larger tire = less linear force against the road = less acceleration.

3) Big lift and big tires is less aerodynamic. At higher speeds (highway speeds and above), aerodynamic drag is quite substantial, especially with a brick on wheels (Jeep). Make the Jeep less aerodynamic, and now more power is "lost" to simply pushing the brick through the air, and less power is available to be transmitted to the ground.
I actually understood that. Thank you.
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ok, makes alot of sense, but would it be worth going thru all that, or just say it's ok the way it is? I guess what I mean, would it hurt if I don't make any changes to it and leave as is?
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You can negate the effects on item #2 in my previous post by re-gearing the axles to increase the mechanical advantage, offsetting the decrease in mechanical advantage caused by the larger tires.

There's nothing you can do to directly regain the losses from #1 and #3 though (well, except for increasing power with a supercharger, turbo, or a bigger engine). The best you can do is over-compensate with the re-gearing for additional mechanical advantage. This does not give you more power, but in most normal street driving and off-road situations, it gives you easier access to the power that you do have available more quickly at lower speeds. It will feel more powerful, throttle will be more responsive in general, but you won't technically have more power.
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Reasons #1 and #2 also explain why the brakes may feel weaker too. With bigger tires, the brakes have less mechanical advantage against the ground to slow the Jeep, and more braking power is "lost" to slowing down the rotation of the tires themselves, with less power available for slowing down the linear motion of the Jeep.
Yes I noticed they as well, so I drove it slower than normal.
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I suggest a great place to start with these answers is to go get the factory build sheet for your jeep. It was suggested by another WF member and is wealth of information about your jeep. Of course if you bought it already modded, hopefully you purchased from the owner and not a dealer , as the owner would have chewed your ear off for an hour about the mods.
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hopefully this helps. Get a print out and have all those answers in hand.
no I bought the jeep from a dealership, no modifications were on it. Thank you ill look into that.
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Did you reprogram the computer with a Procal or Superchips? Next issue is gearing. What is your ratio? Next question is what motor? 3.6 or 3.8? Next question is what transmission? Auto or stick.

Sure the tires are heavier but my guess is your gear ratio is 3.21 or 3.73. You will surely notice a difference.
eh....lol....the only answer I can give ys, it's an automatic
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I saw your post in another thread, looks like you have a newer Oscar Mike JKU. I just lifted mine about a month ago, no difference in power until I got the tires (35") last week. I noticed a difference. But after calibrating the ECU with my ProCal (a device you plug into your OBD port, which is by your left foot on the bottom of the dash), it was much better.

Tire and wheel size and weight will greatly impact your performance as well. For example, I went with BFG KO2's 35" that run on the smaller size. But the tire weighs in at 63lbs. Versus a General Grabber which weighs 82lbs. That extra 20lbs will make a age difference. Then you have to factor the wheel weight. The larger diameter the wheel, the heavier it's going to weigh.

But first item you check off the box is calibrating the ECU. I think once you do that, you'll notice a big difference, plus it will put your speedometer where it should be.

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I saw your post in another thread, looks like you have a newer Oscar Mike JKU. I just lifted mine about a month ago, no difference in power until I got the tires (35") last week. I noticed a difference. But after calibrating the ECU with my ProCal (a device you plug into your OBD port, which is by your left foot on the bottom of the dash), it was much better.

Tire and wheel size and weight will greatly impact your performance as well. For example, I went with BFG KO2's 35" that run on the smaller size. But the tire weighs in at 63lbs. Versus a General Grabber which weighs 82lbs. That extra 20lbs will make a age difference. Then you have to factor the wheel weight. The larger diameter the wheel, the heavier it's going to weigh.

But first item you check off the box is calibrating the ECU. I think once you do that, you'll notice a big difference, plus it will put your speedometer where it should be.

Hope all these posts help out!
thank you I screened shot your comment, and sent it via text to the person who did the work. Waiting to hear what he says.
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thank you I screened shot your comment, and sent it via text to the person who did the work. Waiting to hear what he says.
Great! I think you live in Tucson? I live in Phoenix. If you lived closer I would hook my ProCal up and set it up for you. They cast $150 and have some additional options besides calibrating tire size. But unless you would ever use the other options, it's a one time deal and your out the $150. Hope it helps!
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Great! I think you live in Tucson? I live in Phoenix. If you lived closer I would hook my ProCal up and set it up for you. They cast $150 and have some additional options besides calibrating tire size. But unless you would ever use the other options, it's a one time deal and your out the $150. Hope it helps!
They're only good for one vehicle at a time.

OP: Get a ProCal or the Superchips - either will work fine.
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Jp mag has an article on the 35 "upgrade".
stock / 35
0-60mph ............ 18seconds vs 30 seconds
60-0mph ............ 137 feet vs 218 feet
gas mileage ........ 15 mpg vs 9 mpg

sound familiar ??????

next month they will address gearing and brakes.

If the department of highway safety were paying attention.... all this would be banned.
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Jp mag has an article on the 35 "upgrade".
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0-60mph ............ 18seconds vs 30 seconds
60-0mph ............ 137 feet vs 218 feet
gas mileage ........ 15 mpg vs 9 mpg

sound familiar ??????

next month they will address gearing and brakes.
Lol @ 9 MPG, that's b.s. Got a link to that article?
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but would it be worth going thru all that, or just say it's ok the way it is? I guess what I mean, would it hurt if I don't make any changes to it and leave as is?
That can be up to interpretation and personal opinion to a certain point. If you have the 3.6 V6 (2012 or later Wrangler) and 3.73 gears in the axles, and don't really take it off road, then it's probably fine as-is as long as you are happy with it.

If the gears and tire size are too severely mismatch (like 3.21 gears with your 35" tires), and/or you drive off-road climbing up things, and/or you drive in hilly areas, you could be over-working your transmission, shortening its life, and may even see the "hot oil" warning sometimes (means the transmission oil got too hot). These would be reasons beyond personal preference to re-gear the axles.

Like others have already said, make sure your vehicle's computer has been re-calibrated for the larger tire size so that the speedometer is correct, and the transmission shifts properly.
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Great! I think you live in Tucson? I live in Phoenix. If you lived closer I would hook my ProCal up and set it up for you. They cast $150 and have some additional options besides calibrating tire size. But unless you would ever use the other options, it's a one time deal and your out the $150. Hope it helps!

Yup found one on Internet for that price. Yup live in Tucson, weather has been just beautiful, I've gone bikini top for 3 weeks now.
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That can be up to interpretation and personal opinion to a certain point. If you have the 3.6 V6 (2012 or later Wrangler) and 3.73 gears in the axles, and don't really take it off road, then it's probably fine as-is as long as you are happy with it.

If the gears and tire size are too severely mismatch (like 3.21 gears with your 35" tires), and/or you drive off-road climbing up things, and/or you drive in hilly areas, you could be over-working your transmission, shortening its life, and may even see the "hot oil" warning sometimes (means the transmission oil got too hot). These would be reasons beyond personal preference to re-gear the axles.

Like others have already said, make sure your vehicle's computer has been re-calibrated for the larger tire size so that the speedometer is correct, and the transmission shifts properly.
Yea I drove around on 37's and 3.73's for a while, it was just fine on the street. I could pass anyone whenever I needed to. Honestly it was quicker than it needed to be. Offroad it left a lot to be desired obviously.
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That can be up to interpretation and personal opinion to a certain point. If you have the 3.6 V6 (2012 or later Wrangler) and 3.73 gears in the axles, and don't really take it off road, then it's probably fine as-is as long as you are happy with it.

If the gears and tire size are too severely mismatch (like 3.21 gears with your 35" tires), and/or you drive off-road climbing up things, and/or you drive in hilly areas, you could be over-working your transmission, shortening its life, and may even see the "hot oil" warning sometimes (means the transmission oil got too hot). These would be reasons beyond personal preference to re-gear the axles.

Like others have already said, make sure your vehicle's computer has been re-calibrated for the larger tire size so that the speedometer is correct, and the transmission shifts properly.
Ok great so you understood when I asked if it would hurt it not to change it. I do light offroading. Nothing extreme. But still wanna make sure I'm not damaging anything. Thank you. Very helpful.
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Jp mag has an article on the 35 "upgrade".
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0-60 mph in 18 seconds stock? Is this a 4-door with the 3.8 engine, 4 sumo wrestlers in it, and the cargo area filled with dead bodies (the sumo wrestlers are also Yakuza members)? And 30 seconds with 35's? That can't be right.
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0-60 mph in 18 seconds stock? Is this a 4-door with the 3.8 engine, 4 sumo wrestlers in it, and the cargo area filled with dead bodies (the sumo wrestlers are also Yakuza members)? And 30 seconds with 35's? That can't be right.
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