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Old 05-12-2019, 02:29 AM
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Question Mall Crawler Lift

Looking to put 33s on my JKU. Been reading several forums and seeing mixed answers on how to go about it. What I know is this: for starters I will be looking for a 2.5 lift, and will not be doing any extreme off-roading anytime soon, and I am fine with that. My new and expensive rig will proudly see mostly pavement. I was debating 35s and 33s but since it is my daily driver, I'm looking to improve the look of it and maintain its performance. Give me EVERYTHING you recommend to achieve this, look wise and performance wise. Looking for beefy tires and 2.5 lift, so if you have recommendations shoot.

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You don't even need a lift. I would just do a leveling kit for 33's.

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For 33s and no wheeling you do not need to lift it. A level will give you a more aggressive stance and the 33s will fill the wheel wells.
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For 33s and no wheeling you do not need to lift it. A level will give you a more aggressive stance and the 33s will fill the wheel wells.
Would you recommend a leveling kit or spacers?
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A level/lift can be either springs or spacers. Spacers are a great way to go for little $$$$. Take off springs from a Rubicon model might get you an 1/2 inch or so.

33's (255/80/17) or (285/70/17) and no crazy off road should be fine with no lift.
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Check out the Rancho 2" Progressive lift. Honest 2" spring lift, most have no need for any additional parts. Rides great, tuned to fit a 33" tire. Huge thread to peruse at your leisure.
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Would you recommend a leveling kit or spacers?
There are both types. If budget is a concern go with spacers. If not, TeraFlex has a spring leveling kit that some like.

If you think at any point down the road you may go off-road, then you may want to consider looking for a set of take off 10A springs. These, I believe, will level you and net you 1/2” lift. Should work fine with 33s.

A full lift is the most $$$, but will fully cover you for mall crawling and rock crawling on 33s. In this case I recommend what I did, install TeraFlex’s 2.5” lift with shocks. This lift rides great and fits 33s perfectly. Some go up to 35s with this lift. I currently run the stock 10A size tires with it and am happy with Street and trail ride.
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I'm like you, not planning on doing much off road if at all. More of a mall rat.

I have 2.5" Rubicon Express lift. I am still running my stock MT tires and rims for now. Money is always an issue so I put in 1.75" spacers...for now.

I wanted to be able to go 35's for the look and rims with 4.5" (-12mm) back spacing for some light wheeling someday, but I am going to be careful as to how much more weight I put on each corner.

My stock Willy's set up is 74 lbs in each corner, 27 lbs for each rim.
I found Rockstar II's 811's at 17x9" weight the same. They re not cheap but I like them the most.

My stock tires are 47 lbs each.
34x10.5/17 BFGoodrich A/T T/A KO2 are 56 lbs each. therefor I would be increasing my corner weight by only 9 lbs each.

You will still need to deal with your gear ratio. I am running 3.73 stock. If you are on a Sahara, you are running 3.21 (I think) and that will effect your performance too.

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As some have mentioned, for your uses, I wouldn't do a 2.5" lift. 2.5" lifts all will net you more than 2.5" and lift you up where you have to do a lot of things to make it perform correctly (front driveshaft, etc). I'd go with the Terraflex Leveling Kit, Rancho 2" lift, or AEV 2" lift. You could then go with either 285/70R17 or 255/80R17 33" tires.
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I would figure out what size tires you want to run and then lift or level as required for that tire size. A 2.5" lift will fit 35" tires, and to do it right will be more money. A Leveling kit, either spring or spacer based, will easily fit 33" tires and if you want to avoid getting into expenses like gearing that would be a better way to go in my opinion.
The Rancho 2" lift is basically a spring based leveling kit that also replaces the shocks. It doesn't add much travel, but it does increase the ride height. And if you go with the Rancho 9000 series shocks it includes adjustable shocks. It is somewhat budget oriented, and often you get what you pay for. But for many people the Rancho kit is all they need.
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2.5" in. lift + 35s is my vote... i just did mine.. my stock rubi wheels and tires on craigslist.. once those sell.. re-gear, then I am done.. Although its not all that horrific at 3.73.. I going to the mountains this weekend.. will see how she does higher up in elevation.
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Looking to put 33s on my JKU. Been reading several forums and seeing mixed answers on how to go about it. What I know is this: for starters I will be looking for a 2.5 lift, and will not be doing any extreme off-roading anytime soon, and I am fine with that. My new and expensive rig will proudly see mostly pavement. I was debating 35s and 33s but since it is my daily driver, I'm looking to improve the look of it and maintain its performance. Give me EVERYTHING you recommend to achieve this, look wise and performance wise. Looking for beefy tires and 2.5 lift, so if you have recommendations shoot.
Lots of options, but based on your post, I highly recommend the AEV 2" budget boost. It's like a leveling kit with all the extra parts that you normally get in a lift kit.

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2.5" in. lift + 35s is my vote... i just did mine.. my stock rubi wheels and tires on craigslist.. once those sell.. re-gear, then I am done.. Although its not all that horrific at 3.73.. I going to the mountains this weekend.. will see how she does higher up in elevation.
Was going to do a 2.5 lift in case I ended up going up to 35s later. But not quite sure, I do not feel comfortable going that far up right now because there's so much mixed information on what needs to be done when you go 35+......and I need to learn more before jumping the gun. 33's seems like a safety net, stock wheels are just not cutting it for me.
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If you think at any point down the road you may go off-road, then you may want to consider looking for a set of take off 10A springs. These, I believe, will level you and net you 1/2” lift. Should work fine with 33s.

Would 10A springs require longer shocks on a Sahara?





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If you think at any point down the road you may go off-road, then you may want to consider looking for a set of take off 10A springs. These, I believe, will level you and net you 1/2” lift. Should work fine with 33s.

Would 10A springs require longer shocks on a Sahara?
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I suspect you would be fine at the Mall.

It is possible, however, that the springs and shocks are available as a set too.
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If it helps. Here is 33's, no lift, 5.2" back space wheels. At you will really want 35's and slight lift!
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I had my Rubicon express installed professionally and there is nothing else I have to do to my ride. It works just like it did before the lift and no issues at all. It's just a little bit harder for my wife to get into the jeep.

And as my friend says, if you can't get it, you can't ride in it.

I can go 35's right now with only changing the speedometer settings but I have the APPCAR installed so changing it is easy. I will be selling off my procal at some point in the future, I don't need both.

My gas mileage will change slightly because I am running 3.73's but I want to try it before I re-gear.

I like the option of going 35's if I want to.
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I had my Rubicon express installed professionally and there is nothing else I have to do to my ride. It works just like it did before the lift and no issues at all. It's just a little bit harder for my wife to get into the jeep.....
I have a hybrid RE 2.5" lift --- it, without shame, copies the AEV 2.5" lift. I like the RE springs better though.
I added geo-correction drop brackets to it, a Teraflex adjustable trackbar, and brakeline relocation brackets.
It rides much better than stock on Procomp 16" wheels shod with 285/75-16 ST-Maxx tires.


If you want to be able to get offroad, want to fit 35s eventually, and want the easiest route to a fantastic street ride, get the AEV 2.5" lift. I was able to get my lift at cost but would have done AEV if I couldn't.
AEV lift: https://www.quadratec.com/products/16502_4414_07.htm
I'd add geo brackets though. And I like a front trackbar that fits.

Rubicon Express:
https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/rubico...R-BKTG-RE7141M
Throw out the cambolts and use: https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/rubico.../R-BKTG-RE9801
Either get new brakelines or use brackets: (this looks like both front and rear) https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/rubico...R-BKTG-RE15071
Front trackbar: https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/terafl...R-FNNT-1753418

My RE parts were much less than the AEV kit with add-ons ----- 4 WheelParts is close to me and I hit them on a sale day. Their parent company owns Rubicon Express and ProComp so you can get smoking deals when they have sales.
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Was going to do a 2.5 lift in case I ended up going up to 35s later. But not quite sure, I do not feel comfortable going that far up right now because there's so much mixed information on what needs to be done when you go 35+......and I need to learn more before jumping the gun. 33's seems like a safety net, stock wheels are just not cutting it for me.

if you have d44 axles, you can lift it 2.5", put 35s on and not worry about your axles.. i did add a new adj. trackbar.. but i will offroading..


i communicated directly with teraflex.. 2.5" lift is a safe lift with other stock parts.. my castor came out in the green after the alignment too.. really want to make sure you axles are beefed up.. d44 shouldnt need any more beefing up.. tho.. check what axles you have.



some people geo brackets or lower control arms to fix their castor.. which i wont be doing, because my castor is within spec.. and it drives great on the freeway doing 80..


if not offroading at all... ive seen people do 35s at with no lift and flat fenders.. and it looks awesome...



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