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Old 02-04-2019, 08:21 AM   #31
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Did you flush the system before installing it? The kit looks well made, any issues with installation?
I did not flush before installing. I bought this Jeep (2015 model) two months ago. I don't know anything about it's service history, but the heater works extremely well (nearly too hot at the hottest setting) and the coolant overflow tank has no sediment in the bottom of it. I don't know if this one has been flushed and items replaced, or if it just made it out of the factory with very little casting sand left in the engine. Since everything looked good and worked well, I decided it probably wasn't worth it to try to flush. I just just installed this filter as a preventative measure hoping things wouldn't get worse. I'm also curious to see how much casting sand it will catch after 1000 miles or so. I'll definitely be reporting back.

As for the install, it was easy. The only thing I'd recommend that wasn't on the install video is be prepared to put a little grease or RTV on the bracket mounting nuts to hold them in the socket so they don't fall off into the frame. I used a dab of RTV and it worked perfectly. I'm also not 100% comfortable with the way the radiator hose rests against the filter bracket. It just barely touches it, but still... I've see things like that wear through over time, so I'll be watching that closely.

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Yep, I get that. My bigger goal other than saving $ with a DIY approach is having the flexibility of mounting things to better suit my needs rather than just accepting what someone else from Mishimoto chose for me. That's the reason I originally stated, it looks like you're paying extra for the added convenience of an included mounting bracket.
Well, there's also the ball valves and the safety of a bypass, but those are easily rigged as well I suppose. Speaking of the bypass, I'm not sure how I feel about only half the coolant being filtered with each pass. I suppose Mishimoto felt that over time sufficient filtration would occur. ??

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I don't know about your frame rails, but when I looked at mine in the coolant filter bracket mounting location, those holes aren't there on my 2009 frame rails. I'd also hate for the guy who changes my oil to mistakenly loosen that coolant filter instead of my oil filter since he may find himself in for a big surprise.
Mishimoto advertises it as being only for the 2012-2018 JK. With a 2009, I don't think you have to worry about the casting sand crap do you?

BTW, I'm glad you mentioned changing the oil. While I do 95% of all my vehicles oil changes, there is that odd situation where it's easier to have someone do it. I'll definitely need to remember to let them know about the coolant filter. That would be a surprise indeed!

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I did not flush before installing. I bought this Jeep (2015 model) two months ago. I don't know anything about it's service history, but the heater works extremely well (nearly too hot at the hottest setting) and the coolant overflow tank has no sediment in the bottom of it. I don't know if this one has been flushed and items replaced, or if it just made it out of the factory with very little casting sand left in the engine. Since everything looked good and worked well, I decided it probably wasn't worth it to try to flush. I just just installed this filter as a preventative measure hoping things wouldn't get worse. I'm also curious to see how much casting sand it will catch after 1000 miles or so. I'll definitely be reporting back.

As for the install, it was easy. The only thing I'd recommend that wasn't on the install video is be prepared to put a little grease or ATV on the bracket mounting nuts to hold them in the socket so they don't fall off into the frame. I used a dab of ATV and it worked perfectly. I'm also not 100% comfortable with the way the radiator hose rests against the filter bracket. It just barely touches it, but still... I've see things like that wear through over time, so I'll be watching that closely.
Thanks, I think I'm going to install it also.
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With a 2009, I don't think you have to worry about the casting sand crap do you?

Mentioned in Post #17 and #28 previously. All JK's have the casting sand problem to worry about as well as does the XJ as I mentioned in post #21.
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I've looked at additional more cost effective options. I found the Mitshimoto design is borrowed off of pre-existing designs and then additionally just includes a bracket and hoses for mounting it onto a frame rail.

Here's the same type of thing, and even includes a review from an individual with an XJ where the 1999 Jeep XJ had casting sand problems clogging heater cores as well. What a disgrace that casting sand problems have been around this long and no one at Chrysler has fixed their process issues for the most important part of their vehicles. That speaks volumes towards Chrysler's lack of quality.

Anyways you can just as easily get one of these. There are multiple options available from different vendors.

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Then add a couple of these 1/2in to 5/8in hose couplers.


Add the Wix filter to it which is the same as used on the Mishimoto.


Then just mount it up wherever you like such as this guy did on his XJ.
This is a great Idea. I'm going to do it. I like being able to put it where I want and make it easily accessible from the top under the hood. I'm also going to add shut off valves at the mount. It looks like the total cost will be around $70 when it's said and done. I'll post pics here when I get it done.
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This is a great Idea. I'm going to do it. I like being able to put it where I want and make it easily accessible from the top under the hood. I'm also going to add shut off valves at the mount. It looks like the total cost will be around $70 when it's said and done. I'll post pics here when I get it done.
I'm interested to see how you do so that I can get some ideas! That price point makes it seem much more reasonable.
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This is a great Idea. I'm going to do it. I like being able to put it where I want and make it easily accessible from the top under the hood. I'm also going to add shut off valves at the mount. It looks like the total cost will be around $70 when it's said and done. I'll post pics here when I get it done.

Please share. I'm going to do the same for the same reasons you mentioned but will wait until Spring and work on it when the weather is warmer outside in my area.
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This was on my wife's '14 JKU when I took her overflow tank to mark it easier to see.

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I'm finding that doing the filter thing myself is going to cost close to $220 in parts and pieces when its all said and done. Shut-off valves and decent silicon hoses add quite a bit to the price. Also after looking under the hood for a mounting location, I realized would need a mounting bracket of some sort. I found this. It looks like it would work perfect for the filter> JK ARB Single Underhood Mount ? SEARCHERS 4WD SUPPLY AND OUTFITTERS. This makes the Mishimoto look like a more cost effective option except for the fact that it's not easily accessible like one under the hood would be.
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UPDATE: I installed the Mishimoto yesterday. It was simple and took me an hour going slow and triple checking everything as I went. She dribbled out about a 1/4 cup of coolant so I didn't need to top off the tank. I did not have to drill holes in the frame, they were already there on my 2012 JK. The kit is excellent quality and complete with every part and piece needed to do the install. It arrived on time from Amazon. I also ordered 2 extra filters. I will change the first filter in a week as Mishimoto suggested to see how much crud it picks up. I'll post pics so you all can see for yourselves it works or not. Total cost $192 including the 2 extra filters.
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I haven't been able to fix my overheating. And now I have disappearing coolant. (Yes; i know what that probably means.) One thing I will say about Mishimoto is they honor their warranties. I received a Mish. radiator to try and fix the issue many moons ago. (It helped a lot but did not eliminate it). I say "received" because it was sent to me for free- to test fit it. This was when the JK first came out. I developed a leak last year. I contacted them about having it fixed- and instead they sent me a new one. Yes; I know it's probably easier that way. But they could've denied me totally. Their stuff is expensive- but we all know companies that have crappy, crappy customer service.
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This was on my wife's '14 JKU when I took her overflow tank to mark it easier to see.

you can see the settling at the bottom
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Of course Jeep would not recognize the issue
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Can we also just take a moment to honor the stupidity of having a white plastic coolant container with markings you can't see? I had to do the same thing- Sharpie marked mine too. Sometimes my love/hate with Chrysler stands solid at 50/50.
Yet I have a Ram and a Durango. Glutton for punishment.
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Speaking of the white plastic tank, mine has 4 inches of sludge in the bottom of it which means everything else does too.
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Just installed the Mishimoto kit recently. It seemed to be a pretty straight forward process. Similar to some of the other posts, while I realized that the kit was somewhat expensive, the design of the bracket and the hose piece was what swayed me this way. Reading about these customer service experiences is also encouraging if I run into any issues in the future.
Also, I did flush the core prior to installing this kit, as I had no heat on my driver's side. It will be interesting to see what comes out of the filter in the next few months.
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If you're so worried about casting sand, just drain and reverse flush the whole system (not just the HC) then fill with clean coolant.

A gallon of coolant concentrate is $30, a gallon of distilled water $2.
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If you're so worried about casting sand, just drain and reverse flush the whole system (not just the HC) then fill with clean coolant.

A gallon of coolant concentrate is $30, a gallon of distilled water $2.
The casting sand issue was the main motivating factor for pushing me into buying the filter system. However, over the life of the vehicle and as it ages I believe that the filter will not only get the sand but all the other particles and chunks of crap that will come as a result of age and the corrosion that will come it. Your point is well taken. I will be backflushing the heater core in an attempt to get what I can out of it. My heater works well and I hope to keep it that way. I just don't want to have to spend what little time I have left of my life back flushing cooling systems over and over. Changing a filter is a much simpler task and only takes a few minutes. BTW, this is my third Jeep. The boss lady says I won't be getting another anytime soon and that means she'll be burying me in the POS.
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This was on my wife's '14 JKU when I took her overflow tank to mark it easier to see.

you can see the settling at the bottom
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Of course Jeep would not recognize the issue
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Have you taken a sample of your coolant to have it analyzed in order to determine what that sediment is?

I did back in 2013 and it was identified as stop leak.


Send your coolant here and have it analyzed.

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i'm scared to touch my coolant system at all
with my luck i'll flush out all the crap that's keeping it from leaking
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with my luck i'll flush out all the crap that's keeping it from leaking
Look around your engine bay where the coolant flows and you’ll see a white substance that has oozed out and hardened. That’s Mopar Stop Leak they poured in the tank during production. Probably at final test after they charged the systems with fluids.

This is what it looks like before it hardens - as long as its suspended in coolant it won’t harden. It only hardens when exposed to air...

It takes about 30 minutes to settle to the bottom of the jar after being shaken.

When I extracted a drop from the jar and put it on my light table and exposed it to air, it took a couple of days to completely harden.

On that note, I would reserve judgement until you have your coolant tested like I did..

There is or was a casting sand problem, but I would need to see the test results before drawing a conclusion.

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The filter is installed on the inlet hose of the heater core. The heater core circulation is branched off of the main engine coolant flow system, so that if the heater core gets clogged the coolant flow is still present on the rest of the radiator/engine system cooling. You just don't have hot air from your heater.

The current problem is that the heater core has the smallest passages of the entire coolant system and the casting sand gets trapped inside of the heater core. The filter is intended to catch that gunk flowing through the coolant on the inlet of the heater core hose before it reaches your heater cores, thus preventing your heater core from getting clogged. Thus, you are now replacing a $10 easy to reach filter instead of a hard to replace heater core which costs over $1200+ from the dealership to replace.

Thanks, my 98 could use this, as the coolant looks rusty in places, even though I have it flushed every two years.
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rednroll, have you popped on in yourself yet? I have a thread started because I wanted to see if anyone has done this on our years "2010 JKU Inline coolant filter question".
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/2...l#post34330769
Please have a read thru, you will see my questions and hopefully they aren't dumb ones.
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This is EXACTLY what happened to me
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rednroll, have you popped on in yourself yet? I have a thread started because I wanted to see if anyone has done this on our years "2010 JKU Inline coolant filter question".
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/2...l#post34330769
Please have a read thru, you will see my questions and hopefully they aren't dumb ones.
Thanks Heather

I haven't started on this project yet. I have too many other projects currently going on that need wrapping up before starting this one.


I have a thermostat replacement, trans fluid change, and Mopar tranny cooler install in line ahead of this project as well. I'll check out your other thread.
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I don't think this post will be too helpful, but I just wanted to report back to y'all with my findings after 4500 miles with the Mishimoto filter system.

To refresh your memory, before the install I did not have any sediment in the bottom of my overflow tank. I bought this Jeep back in December and I did not have access to any service or maintenance done on it prior. I just installed this filter system as a preventative maintenance measure to hopefully keep my heat working properly.

Anyway, I dumped the contents of the filter into a mason jar and found only about a 1/4th of a teaspoon of black particles that looked like flakes of black pepper. I did not find any casting sand at all. I cut the filter open (that was harder than I thought it'd be) and inspected the inside. I did not see any casting sand at all. In fact, the filter was very clean. My assumption is that a previous owner must have had the coolant system flushed out at some point.

Anyway, just thought you'd want to know.
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I don't think this post will be too helpful, but I just wanted to report back to y'all with my findings after 4500 miles with the Mishimoto filter system.

To refresh your memory, before the install I did not have any sediment in the bottom of my overflow tank. I bought this Jeep back in December and I did not have access to any service or maintenance done on it prior. I just installed this filter system as a preventative maintenance measure to hopefully keep my heat working properly.

Anyway, I dumped the contents of the filter into a mason jar and found only about a 1/4th of a teaspoon of black particles that looked like flakes of black pepper. I did not find any casting sand at all. I cut the filter open (that was harder than I thought it'd be) and inspected the inside. I did not see any casting sand at all. In fact, the filter was very clean. My assumption is that a previous owner must have had the coolant system flushed out at some point.

Anyway, just thought you'd want to know.
Thanks for the update! I was curious on how it was working out for you.
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*Update* Changed the first filter today. I have never flushed the system. I had driven 1500ish miles and was surprised to see that there wasn't much crud at all in the filter. Some fine sparkly looking stuff and some sand particle crud but nothing that caked or made a thick slurry. When I installed the filter there were about 2 inches of heavy sandy stuff in the bottom of the overflow tank that I emptied out so I was anxious about what I would find in the filter. I feel good about the condition of my cooling system and am glad I added the filter. I'll sleep good tonight.
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Anyone actually build a DIY version for their JK? Not sure why people are complaining about hose prices (unless I’m missing something), o’riellys sells 5/8 rad hose by the foot and for cheap.
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I was in the parts store today looking at the radiator stop leak. It's sparkly black stuff (unicorn diarrhea). The same stuff that was trapped in the Mishimoto filter under my hood.

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