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Old 02-26-2019, 08:31 AM   #4951
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I will be doing this lift in the next few months. Iíve read this entire thread Over the last few months but canít recall if this next question was asked/answered or not.

I want to correct the caster so to do that would I do either the adjustable control arms or the geo correction brackets? Does one have an advantage over the other?


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either or flip a coin. geo brackets hang down lower and don't look as good but give a nice ride. You can also use fixed lower control arms like Teraflex sport arms and the end up giving perfect caster for this lift.

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I will be doing this lift in the next few months. Iíve read this entire thread Over the last few months but canít recall if this next question was asked/answered or not.

I want to correct the caster so to do that would I do either the adjustable control arms or the geo correction brackets? Does one have an advantage over the other?


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Geo brackets give less clearance as the bracket bolts into the existing low control arm mount then adds about 2-3" for the lower arm to bolt to and be parallel with the ground. If this doesn't bother you then I think most will tell you the brackets would be the best way to correct caster as it positions the lower arm correctly and it's cheaper. Either option will work but from my reading the brackets create a smoother ride strictly from the lower arm angle being flat and it lets the suspension soak up more bumps as opposed to you feeling them more in the frame.

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Received the kit a few days ago and as far as I can tell I'm missing 1 sway bar end link, both brake line extension brackets, rubber washer for yoke install, and there are no bolts included to install the bumpstops. Also the lip around the yoke is bent and dented. I called Amazon to let them know and I have let the company which shipped it know what parts are missing. Problem is there is only 1 part number for the hardware kit, not individual bolts and the washer. I'm hoping they'll ship an entire hardware kit to be safe. This was mid-Friday so I expect a reply on a resolution sometime Monday.

I've included a pic of everything that came in the box and the damaged yoke. Are the 3 long silver bolts for cam bolt install? I won't be using them I have Rancho geo brackets already waiting to be installed as well. Also the 2 short black bolts just under the silver bolts in the pic are used for? Front bumpstop bolts maybe?
Hope they make it right. I ended up with two driver side relocation brackets. Since I didn't notice until after I had started the install. I ended up getting another brand from Summit racing but wanted the correct once.

The seller and I went back and forth for a couple of months before they could even get one ordered. Then the order was canceled twice by Mopar. Once the seller made it clear they couldn't do anything for me since Mopar refused to fill the order, I contacted Mopar. They told me I had to go through the dealer. I explained to them several times that they can't order it, because you keep canceling it. They ignored my last 3 emails.
The Amazon seller emailed me today with a tracking number and said all missing and damaged parts plus a hardware kit was shipped today. Should be here Friday.
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In the shop and got the gears re-done yesterday (that's one i wasn't doing myself). Went from 3.21 to 4.56 (I know, i should have gone to 4.88 on 35's). I think 4.56 works just great for me.

She's starting to look the way i want her too. For the inevitable questions about the rock lights. No, I'm not some hip rapper, I just wanted milder ambient light at night time when i'm sitting at my camp site.

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In the shop and got the gears re-done yesterday (that's one i wasn't doing myself). Went from 3.21 to 4.56 (I know, i should have gone to 4.88 on 35's). I think 4.56 works just great for me.

She's starting to look the way i want her too. For the inevitable questions about the rock lights. No, I'm not some hip rapper, I just wanted milder ambient light at night time when i'm sitting at my camp site.

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Received the kit a few days ago and as far as I can tell I'm missing 1 sway bar end link, both brake line extension brackets, rubber washer for yoke install, and there are no bolts included to install the bumpstops. Also the lip around the yoke is bent and dented. I called Amazon to let them know and I have let the company which shipped it know what parts are missing. Problem is there is only 1 part number for the hardware kit, not individual bolts and the washer. I'm hoping they'll ship an entire hardware kit to be safe. This was mid-Friday so I expect a reply on a resolution sometime Monday.

I've included a pic of everything that came in the box and the damaged yoke. Are the 3 long silver bolts for cam bolt install? I won't be using them I have Rancho geo brackets already waiting to be installed as well. Also the 2 short black bolts just under the silver bolts in the pic are used for? Front bumpstop bolts maybe?
Hope they make it right. I ended up with two driver side relocation brackets. Since I didn't notice until after I had started the install. I ended up getting another brand from Summit racing but wanted the correct once.

The seller and I went back and forth for a couple of months before they could even get one ordered. Then the order was canceled twice by Mopar. Once the seller made it clear they couldn't do anything for me since Mopar refused to fill the order, I contacted Mopar. They told me I had to go through the dealer. I explained to them several times that they can't order it, because you keep canceling it. They ignored my last 3 emails.
The Amazon seller emailed me today with a tracking number and said all missing and damaged parts plus a hardware kit was shipped today. Should be here Friday.
Missing parts came in today and I was able to get it installed mostly by myself. Was in a hurry so I didn’t take before and after pics but hopefully I’ll get some tomorrow if I can get the Rancho brackets put on early enough before the tire shop closes and the 35’s and new wheels go on.

Have yet to install the driveshaft but I’ll get to that in a couple days.
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So far I'm really liking the lift. I've only put about 50 miles on it so far but it handles great, it's a tad stiffer than stock which is fine. Going from a 32 Load C BFG to a Load E STT Pro I can definitely feel a difference but overall it's a great kit and I'd recommend.
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So far I'm really liking the lift. I've only put about 50 miles on it so far but it handles great, it's a tad stiffer than stock which is fine. Going from a 32 Load C BFG to a Load E STT Pro I can definitely feel a difference but overall it's a great kit and I'd recommend.
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So far I'm really liking the lift. I've only put about 50 miles on it so far but it handles great, it's a tad stiffer than stock which is fine. Going from a 32 Load C BFG to a Load E STT Pro I can definitely feel a difference but overall it's a great kit and I'd recommend.
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Count me in. My lift is on the way from Amazon by way of auto parts wholesale for my '14 JKUR. I also ordered a set of Rancho Geo brackets. I am undecided if I will put them on or go with the cam bolts. I'll decide when the lift goes on.

My 2 door I had had cam bolts and I wheeled it a few times and it seemed fine.

I already have 285/75r17 BFG KO2's on the Jeep with a teraflex leveling kit. Hopefully I get a bit more lift than the leveling kit and hoping the bumpstops keep the tires out of the fenders so I can get on the trails.

Pretty excited after reading 160+ pages about this lift.
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And I might add, I am glad I got in on that 1189 price. Looks like its back up to 1329 now!
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Count me in. My lift is on the way from Amazon by way of auto parts wholesale for my '14 JKUR. I also ordered a set of Rancho Geo brackets. I am undecided if I will put them on or go with the cam bolts. I'll decide when the lift goes on.

My 2 door I had had cam bolts and I wheeled it a few times and it seemed fine.

I already have 285/75r17 BFG KO2's on the Jeep with a teraflex leveling kit. Hopefully I get a bit more lift than the leveling kit and hoping the bumpstops keep the tires out of the fenders so I can get on the trails.

Pretty excited after reading 160+ pages about this lift.
I would suggest using the Rachos since you already have them ordered. 33s should be fine with the bumpstops in the kit, my 35s rub ever so slightly. Congrats on the kit, I also ordered from auto parts warehouse on Amazon. I hope all of your parts show up and in good shape unlike mine. Check everything when you get it. Although they took care of it, it set me back a week waiting on replacements.
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After owning eight JKs, yesterday the Jeep dealer used my Mopar 2” lift with Fox shocks as pretext to deny warranty coverage on my 2018 JKU Recon with 8,500 miles.

The service advisor, service manager and one of their senior techs gathered around my Jeep claiming that Mopar doesn’t offer a lift with Fox shocks. An argument followed. I ended up driving off without any warranty work getting done.

Just when you thought Jeep service couldn’t get any worse...
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After owning eight JKs, yesterday the Jeep dealer used my Mopar 2” lift with Fox shocks as pretext to deny warranty coverage on my 2018 JKU Recon with 8,500 miles.

The service advisor, service manager and one of their senior techs gathered around my Jeep claiming that Mopar doesn’t offer a lift with Fox shocks. An argument followed. I ended up driving off without any warranty work getting done.

Just when you thought Jeep service couldn’t get any worse...
what warranty work? did you pull the kit up on the jeep web site to show them it does come with fox shocks? I know it is after the fact but you should have pointed out the oem part number tags on the coils and had them pull the numbers up in their computer. Some dealer are jack wads. Call 1800-jeep customer service and bitch like crazy. 8 jeeps and getting the shaft is going to register guaranteed. You are the customer base jeep needs to take care of, Ford or Chevy or Toyota would love to welcome you to their fold.
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what warranty work? did you pull the kit up on the jeep web site to show them it does come with fox shocks? I know it is after the fact but you should have pointed out the oem part number tags on the coils and had them pull the numbers up in their computer. Some dealer are jack wads. Call 1800-jeep customer service and bitch like crazy. 8 jeeps and getting the shaft is going to register guaranteed. You are the customer base jeep needs to take care of, Ford or Chevy or Toyota would love to welcome you to their fold.
The warranty work I went in for is a squeaky driver seat, a crooked power mirror switch, a loud rattle on the passenger side, and a slight pull to the right under braking.

Yes, I did point out to them the big giant MOPAR letters printed on the shocks. The technician refused to accept that it was one of their lifts. The service manager offered to go into the system to find out.

After a back-and-forth argument that lasted several minutes, they also asked if I had purchased the Jeep at their dealership and if I even lived in the city! Later the manager also “threatened” to check my VIN to see if the lift had been installed at the time of purchase.

I have never had such an insulting experience at a Jeep dealership.

Normally I would have pushed back much harder. But they are the only Jeep dealer in town and, to be honest, I am done with Jeep.
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I agree you need to be done with jeep. After 8 jeeps it is time to move on. I would let 1800 jeep customer care know you are done and the reason why. If I were you I would be driving another brand vehicle by the end of the weekend.
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The warranty work I went in for is a squeaky driver seat, a crooked power mirror switch, a loud rattle on the passenger side, and a slight pull to the right under braking.

Yes, I did point out to them the big giant MOPAR letters printed on the shocks. The technician refused to accept that it was one of their lifts. The service manager offered to go into the system to find out.

After a back-and-forth argument that lasted several minutes, they also asked if I had purchased the Jeep at their dealership and if I even lived in the city! Later the manager also ďthreatenedĒ to check my VIN to see if the lift had been installed at the time of purchase.

I have never had such an insulting experience at a Jeep dealership.

Normally I would have pushed back much harder. But they are the only Jeep dealer in town and, to be honest, I am done with Jeep.
I mean this in a positive way. Perhaps when picking a new brand vehicle to drive it might be a good idea to take into account the local dealer for the various brands under consideration. It would suck to jump ship from Jeep and end up in the same situation with a different brand.
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I mean this in a positive way. Perhaps when picking a new brand vehicle to drive it might be a good idea to take into account the local dealer for the various brands under consideration. It would suck to jump ship from Jeep and end up in the same situation with a different brand.
No doubt.

I bought my first Jeep 25 years ago. I had my pick of dealers living in California. Up here in northern Washington State my choices are more limited.

Actually I am already reading local dealer reviews online: those of my local CDJR dealer are two-thirds negative, one-third positive.
Toyota and Subaru appear to have a very strong presence, with deep involvement in the community and mostly happy customers. I stopped by the Toyota dealer yesterday: I was pleasantly surprised with the quality of treatment I received.
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I agree you need to be done with jeep. After 8 jeeps it is time to move on. I would let 1800 jeep customer care know you are done and the reason why. If I were you I would be driving another brand vehicle by the end of the weekend.
Yup. My plan is to unwind systematically. Remove the Warn winch and put it for sale. Remove the CB, Grabars and LED tail lights. Sell the Jeep Recovery Kit I haven’t even opened. Remove all the stickers, give the Jeep a good wash and wax, take some good photos and list it for sale. It will sell quick.

Meanwhile, I will test drive vehicles from other automakers.
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It is a shame you are done with Jeep because of one tech and service writer in a crappy dealership.
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It is a shame you are done with Jeep because of one tech and service writer in a crappy dealership.
actually that would be enough for me. I have had only 4 new jk's, Aldo has had 8 and if I got that kind of service I would be done if a call to Jeep customer service did not provide some satisfaction and a call from the dealer with an apology.
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Well crappy FedEx called and said they don’t know how this got through FedEx ground but they can’t seliver the package. They want me to drive 40 minutes one way to pick it up. Needless to say I’m not happy. I contacted amazon. They need to straighten this out.
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It is a shame you are done with Jeep because of one tech and service writer in a crappy dealership.
It's much more than this one experience. Aldo, like myself and many other jeep fans are dis heartened at the depths to which FCA customer service has sunk. Every day there is a new story of a keeper getting bamboozled by a dealer or FCA.
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Well crappy FedEx called and said they don’t know how this got through FedEx ground but they can’t seliver the package. They want me to drive 40 minutes one way to pick it up. Needless to say I’m not happy. I contacted amazon. They need to straighten this out.
That’s odd. Mine delivered through FedEx ground, luckily for the guy I was there when he showed up and helped him unload it.
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The warranty work I went in for is a squeaky driver seat, a crooked power mirror switch, a loud rattle on the passenger side, and a slight pull to the right under braking.

Yes, I did point out to them the big giant MOPAR letters printed on the shocks. The technician refused to accept that it was one of their lifts. The service manager offered to go into the system to find out.

After a back-and-forth argument that lasted several minutes, they also asked if I had purchased the Jeep at their dealership and if I even lived in the city! Later the manager also “threatened” to check my VIN to see if the lift had been installed at the time of purchase.

I have never had such an insulting experience at a Jeep dealership.

Normally I would have pushed back much harder. But they are the only Jeep dealer in town and, to be honest, I am done with Jeep.
Yikes! That is total B.S.!

Here's the likely problem. You are dealing with an uneducated dealership, since as you mentioned they're the only one around in your area that could be part of the problem. They me be too remote.

Let me get to where I'm going with all this since some of this information may be helpful to you.

I work for an automotive supplier. The customer I support is Toyota. I don't work much with the dealerships but more so at the corporate levels. At the corporate level they have a training group. The corporate training group's responsibility is to put training material together, the intent is to educate the dealership employees of new products, how to properly service them and how to properly handle situations like you are experiencing and how to follow the promoted and established guidelines. The corporate group, sends this educational material to the different regions and they also hosts training events for the regional employees to attend. This is called a "Train the Trainer" event. Each major region also has a training group. The region's training group responsibility is to then train the dealerships who are located in their region. Thus, the reason the corporate events are called "Train the Trainer". The regions will then host training events and send invites to all the dealership's management, sales and head techs to attend these training events. It is then each dealership management's responsibility to train all their individual employees. This is the reason when a customer problem occurs at a dealership, a manager is often called in. The manager typically has had more training, and if they didn't have training on a particular part or situation, they then have a direct contact at the regional levels to call and ask questions. If the regional managers still don't know, they have a direct contact to the corporate level who better damn well know since they created the original training material but even if they don't know, then they have contacts in the individual corporate design groups who then have contacts to Tier 1 suppliers (ie ME). I'm more pro-active as a supplier, where I developed relationships with the corporate training groups, as well as the regional training groups so in the event they ever feel they're not getting anywhere with the established communications path, they can know my phone is always open to take calls to directly support them and answer any of their questions. We all have the same goal of trying to ensure YOU as a customer are getting the correct information and support if you are experiencing a problem.

Anyways, that's all of the background of how dealerships get their information. I don't support FCA so I don't know their entire training structure or process but from what I understand, all the major OEMs have similar established training programs.

Along with hosting in person training events that I described, training modules are also created and hosted online which all the dearlership staff have access. Dealership staff are encouraged to go through these training modules where each module they complete they are provided certifications and in return it is one of the ways they get pay increases. They're more knowledgeable about the product and services they're providing to customers...they should get payed more for that knowledge.

Summary of communications of information:
...Tier2 supplier<>Tier1 Supplier<Corporate Design Groups<>Corporate Headquarters<>Regional offices<>Dealership Management<>Dealership Staff<>The customer.


However, like with all things in any established process you can lead and provide a thirsty horse with/to water, but you can't force the horse to drink it. That is the problem from my viewpoint that you are currently experiencing. No one can force the dealership staff or management to attend or educate themselves by going through the online courses if they're unable to attend the training in person and they can't be forced to use the communication chain they've been provided to get you (the customer) the information to properly handle the situation.

Hopefully, this is useful to you in some way. If/when you purchase a Toyota vehicle and you ever experience this kind of nonsense, send me a note. I may not be able to help you directly solve the problem but I can often insert myself into that communication path where the proper people will follow up and straighten the dealership staff out and inform them of the proper way they should be handling the situation with you. I've also supported the regional training events and have established relationships with the dealership management personel but they're just not folks I communicate with on a regular basis.
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Yikes! That is total B.S.!

Here's the likely problem. You are dealing with an uneducated dealership, since as you mentioned they're the only one around in your area that could be part of the problem. They me be too remote.

Let me get to where I'm going with all this since some of this information may be helpful to you.

I work for an automotive supplier. The customer I support is Toyota. I don't work much with the dealerships but more so at the corporate levels. At the corporate level they have a training group. The corporate training group's responsibility is to put training material together, the intent is to educate the dealership employees of new products, how to properly service them and how to properly handle situations like you are experiencing and how to follow the promoted and established guidelines. The corporate group, sends this educational material to the different regions and they also hosts training events for the regional employees to attend. This is called a "Train the Trainer" event. Each major region also has a training group. The region's training group responsibility is to then train the dealerships who are located in their region. Thus, the reason the corporate events are called "Train the Trainer". The regions will then host training events and send invites to all the dealership's management, sales and head techs to attend these training events. It is then each dealership management's responsibility to train all their individual employees. This is the reason when a customer problem occurs at a dealership, a manager is often called in. The manager typically has had more training, and if they didn't have training on a particular part or situation, they then have a direct contact at the regional levels to call and ask questions. If the regional managers still don't know, they have a direct contact to the corporate level who better damn well know since they created the original training material but even if they don't know, then they have contacts in the individual corporate design groups who then have contacts to Tier 1 suppliers (ie ME). I'm more pro-active as a supplier, where I developed relationships with the corporate training groups, as well as the regional training groups so in the event they ever feel they're not getting anywhere with the established communications path, they can know my phone is always open to take calls to directly support them and answer any of their questions. We all have the same goal of trying to ensure YOU as a customer are getting the correct information and support if you are experiencing a problem.

Anyways, that's all of the background of how dealerships get their information. I don't support FCA so I don't know their entire training structure or process but from what I understand, all the major OEMs have similar established training programs.

Along with hosting in person training events that I described, training modules are also created and hosted online which all the dearlership staff have access. Dealership staff are encouraged to go through these training modules where each module they complete they are provided certifications and in return it is one of the ways they get pay increases. They're more knowledgeable about the product and services they're providing to customers...they should get payed more for that knowledge.

Summary of communications of information:
...Tier2 supplier<>Tier1 Supplier<Corporate Design Groups<>Corporate Headquarters<>Regional offices<>Dealership Management<>Dealership Staff<>The customer.


However, like with all things in any established process you can lead and provide a thirsty horse with/to water, but you can't force the horse to drink it. That is the problem from my viewpoint that you are currently experiencing. No one can force the dealership staff or management to attend or educate themselves by going through the online courses if they're unable to attend the training in person and they can't be forced to use the communication chain they've been provided to get you (the customer) the information to properly handle the situation.

Hopefully, this is useful to you in some way. If/when you purchase a Toyota vehicle and you ever experience this kind of nonsense, send me a note. I may not be able to help you directly solve the problem but I can often insert myself into that communication path where the proper people will follow up and straighten the dealership staff out and inform them of the proper way they should be handling the situation with you. I've also supported the regional training events and have established relationships with the dealership management personel but they're just not folks I communicate with on a regular basis.
Thanks for the tip! Yes it helps.

I also am a supplier to the automakers, and I must say Toyota has the best training processes in the business, period. I can totally relate to your story.

A buddy of mine who works at a another CDJR dealership says that he sees similar behaviors at his dealership. It is normally some older tech who feels insecure by younger hires, or feels overwhelmed by the fast pace of change, who feels the need to throw his weight around not just with customers but young service advisors as well. Which makes sense and seems to fit the dynamics I saw. However, at the end of the day, I didn’t spend a boatload of money on this Jeep to play Dr. Phil with insecure dealer employees.

I have scheduled an appointment with the other dealer, 35 miles to the south, for next week. They own a Motorsports shop, so I am guessing they should be more used to mods. Still, I’ll have to take the day off to drive there and back, and wait around while they do the work. I’ll post how it goes.

And thanks for the offer!
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Rednroll- that was a fantastic description
Aldo - good luck, I would hate to see you go. Your builds and posts have been helpful and inspiring.
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Thanks for the tip! Yes it helps.

I also am a supplier to the automakers, and I must say Toyota has the best training processes in the business, period. I can totally relate to your story.

A buddy of mine who works at a another CDJR dealership says that he sees similar behaviors at his dealership. It is normally some older tech who feels insecure by younger hires, or feels overwhelmed by the fast pace of change, who feels the need to throw his weight around not just with customers but young service advisors as well. Which makes sense and seems to fit the dynamics I saw. However, at the end of the day, I didn’t spend a boatload of money on this Jeep to play Dr. Phil with insecure dealer employees.

I have scheduled an appointment with the other dealer, 35 miles to the south, for next week. They own a Motorsports shop, so I am guessing they should be more used to mods. Still, I’ll have to take the day off to drive there and back, and wait around while they do the work. I’ll post how it goes.

And thanks for the offer!
Yes, it seems you understand where the source of the problem is at and it typically boils down to a small handful of individuals who seem less motivated to try and take care of the most important thing (the customer). Sometimes they just need to be reminded of the fact from other sources of what's providing them their job is the customer to see if that motivates them.

Since the problem is likely individual related, you seem to be doing the right thing in eliminating those individuals from the equation, in hopes of obtaining better end results. However, I understand....what a pain in the arse to have to work around those individuals.

I have definitely experienced what your buddy describes even at Toyota dealerships. That seems to be basic human nature for some. In the early parts of my career if a problem was observed a couple times early in the launch of a vehicle and it was suspect that my company's part could be playing a role in the problem, I would be requested to travel to dealerships to do hands on investigations. Usually, the younger dealer techs would like to come and just observe and pick my brain as I was diagnosing...and often ask, "Where can I get some of those tools you have?". I always welcomed having them around because I was able to share some insights with them which could help them become better at diagnosing and if I ran into any problems, they were there where I could ask them further questions since they were usually in direct communications with the customer and if they didn't know, would call the customer to ask while I was still there. The older more experienced guys would often go out to lunch and have that look on their face of, "yeah, let that guy deal with it on his own", where I could definitely get a sense that they some how felt threatened. After all, in their mind they were the onsite expert that was supposed to know everything but I never had an expectation that anyone at a dealership would have as much insight as me or expect them to know everything since I've been working with the system parts 2 years before they ever seen them. I was just always highly impressed with the guys that would give me the load down of what they did know about the system.
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Well crappy FedEx called and said they donít know how this got through FedEx ground but they canít seliver the package. They want me to drive 40 minutes one way to pick it up. Needless to say Iím not happy. I contacted amazon. They need to straighten this out.
If it's the lift kit, that kit and box weighs 125lbs and both Fed ex and ups ground limit is 150lbs so the problem is your Fed ex people are some lazy ****s.

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