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Old 09-03-2012, 03:21 AM
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Neutered COD/MW3 Announced - 2013 MOAB

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Distinguishing exterior features include steel bumpers front and rear, rock sliders on the sills, and a sculpted hood.

Color choice is limited to black, white, and a quartet of cheekily named Jeep signature hues: Gecko, Dozer, Crush, and Rock Lobster; fender flares come only in matte black.

Power is produced by the same 3.6-liter Pentastar V-6 that motivates the rest of the Wrangler roster; a limited-slip rear differential is standard (an option on Sport and Sahara models), and a locking unit is optional. Neither a front locker nor the Rubicon’s ultra-low 4:1 transfer case are available; Moab drivers will have to make due with the Wrangler’s standard 2.72:1 unit.

Goodyear SilentArmor tires (already in use on Wranglers sold in Mexico and international markets) wrap around black-painted versions of the same wheels found on the 2013 Rubicon.

Expect to see Wrangler Moabs arriving in dealerships this October.
2013 Jeep Wrangler Moab Edition: The ‘Tweener of the Wrangler Lineup

tires shown are P245/75 R17

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Why do you think the tires shown are that size? Silent armor's come in 255.

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Nevermind, I saw the picture of the edge of the tire. Odd choice of 31's when the rest of the line runs 32.
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I like it. Nice bumper and rock rails.
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Old 09-04-2012, 09:20 AM
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The official press release is now out from Chrysler.com
245/75 R17 tires confirmed

not sure what "black wheel arches" means ?

http://media.chrysler.com/newsrelease.do?id=12992&mid=2
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The official press release is now out from Chrysler.com
245/75 R17 tires confirmed

not sure what "black wheel arches" means ?

http://media.chrysler.com/newsrelease.do?id=12992&mid=2
It means the Sport/Rubicon spackle black fender flares.
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DO NOT LIKE. put in the rubicon transfer case and lockers and we have a deal.
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Reminds me too much of the COD MW3, but still cool. I like the option of a rear locker, even though its not a Rubicon and the fact that it will be offered in colors other than black, white, and silver. Not that there is anything wrong with those colors. I'm still hoping for a 10th anniversary Rubicon with tons of goodies or something, hopefully this is not it.
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Why not just buy a Rubicon? I don't think there was a "gap" that needed filling.
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Why not just buy a Rubicon? I don't think there was a "gap" that needed filling.
I guess for those who value, leather, power convenience, steel bumpers, rock rails and gizmo's more than they do a front locker, 4:1 and disco's.
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The only redeeming item the Moab has is the having LSD with the option of a rear-locker.

The questions is...does the locker REPLACE the LSD? If it does...than the Moab edition is pretty useless....especially a 4 door on smaller wheels.
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Hey, as long as there are buyers willing to pay for the sticker/badging...why not tap into that market?

That GC trailhawk looks pretty badass
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I'm all for Jeep turning a quick buck -- but seems to me that this combination is just messing with people's heads.

This is a MOAB version? Really?!?
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What is the equipment never before offered on a production Jeep vehicle?
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2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and Wrangler Moab Special Edition announced

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Even More Capability for the Two Pillars of the Jeep® Brand

Jeep capability reaches new heights with Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and Wrangler Moab models
Grand Cherokee Trailhawk first shown as concept last Spring; quickly developed enthusiast following

Trailhawk is the most capable Grand Cherokee ever: solid steel rock rails, Goodyear Silent Armor all-terrain tires and standard Jeep Selec-Terrain and Quadra-Lift suspension systems
New Wrangler special edition pays homage to popular enthusiast off-roading venue; boasts winch-ready steel bumpers, rear limited-slip differential and available rear locker

September 4, 2012 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The best get even better... Jeep® Grand Cherokee and Jeep Wrangler – winners of the last two prestigious "Four Wheeler of the Year" awards from Four Wheeler magazine for their unmatched level of capability – will be available in two new, even more capable models for 2013.

The Jeep brand is introducing the new Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and Wrangler Moab editions, both of which feature off-road equipment never before offered on a production Jeep vehicle.

"With the Wrangler and Grand Cherokee, Jeep offers the most capable SUVs on the planet," said Mike Manley, President and CEO – Jeep Brand, Chrysler Group LLC. "The new Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and Wrangler Moab models take our legendary Jeep capability to new heights, offering even more off-road features and performance, without sacrificing everyday comfort and drivability.

"We introduced Grand Cherokee Trailhawk as a concept at the Moab Easter Jeep Safari earlier this year and it quickly drew rave reviews among enthusiasts," Manley added. "The Wrangler Moab delivers rugged off-road features such as winch-ready steel bumpers, upgraded rock rails and an available rear-locker in a package that pays tribute to our most diehard Jeep enthusiasts and the off-road playground they love."

The limited-edition Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk and Wrangler Moab models arrive in showrooms in October.

Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk

For 2013, Jeep announces the production version of the Grand Cherokee Trailhawk first seen as a concept at the 2012 Easter Jeep Safari in Moab, Utah. The Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is evidence that even the most awarded SUV ever, and the most capable Grand Cherokee ever, can get even better.

The 2013 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is available with a V-6 or V-8 engine and includes the following capability-enhancing equipment:

- 18-inch Goodyear Silent Armor all-terrain tires with Kevlar reinforcement
Solid steel rock rail body protection

- Quadra-Lift air suspension, with nearly 11 inches of ground clearance

- Selec-Terrain traction control system with five settings: Snow, Rock, Sand/Mud, Sport and Auto
A Rear Electronic Limited-slip Differential (ELSD, V-8) that can transfer up to 100% of engine's torque to one rear wheel in order to keep the Jeep moving forward even in the most extreme situations

- Quadra-Track II or Quadra-Drive II (V-8) with a two-speed transfer case to help conquer the toughest obstacles

Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is easily recognized with new signature red Trailhawk and Trail Rated badging and tow hooks, black-surround headlamps and a unique gray on the grille surround, side mirrors, rear light bar, 4x4 badge and five-spoke 18-inch aluminum wheels. A black hood decal with a red accent stripe helps reduce glare from the sun which can help the driver in extreme off-road situations.

Trailhawk-specific interior touches include black leather and performance suede seats with red accent stitching and Mopar slush floor mats front and rear.

The 2013 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is available in Bright White, Brilliant Black, Mineral Gray, Maximum Steel and Deep Cherry Red.

Jeep Wrangler Moab Special Edition

To kick off the 2013 model year, Jeep Wrangler debuts a limited-edition model named after one of the most popular off-road destinations in the world – Moab, Utah – home of the annual Moab Easter Jeep Safari. The Jeep Wrangler Moab is based on the premium Sahara model and is equipped with hardware that off-roading enthusiasts desire.

Off-road modifications to the Wrangler Sahara model to create the Moab edition include 17-inch Rubicon alloy wheels painted gloss black and wearing new 245/75R17 Goodyear Silent Armor off-road tires with Kevlar reinforcement, a standard Trac-Lok anti-spin rear differential with an available electronic rear locking differential, winch-ready steel bumpers and premium rock rails. When equipped with a manual transmission and a 3.73 rear axle ratio, Wrangler Moab has a crawl ratio of 45:1.

Other unique exterior features on the Wrangler Moab include a unique Mopar power dome hood, black fuel filler door and tail lamp guards. Also included are Wrangler's new-for-2013 premium soft top, black wheel arches, matte black Jeep grille badge and "Moab" decals on the hood. A body-color three-piece hard top is optional.

Interior modifications include black or saddle premium leather seating with black stitching on the newly-designed 2013 Wrangler seats, "Moab" embossed instrument panel grab handle, Mopar slush mats and Iron Gray trim on the vent rings, grab handles and steering wheel spokes.

The Jeep Wrangler Moab is available as a two-door Wrangler or four-door Wrangler Unlimited model and is offered in Crush, Dozer, Rock Lobster, Gecko, Black and Bright White exterior colors.
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I agree that the badging is silly--why call it a "Moab" when a stock Rubi is, in fact, better suited to Moab??

On the other hand, I really wish options along these lines were generally available. It'd be a good intermediary between a Sport and a Rubi. Think of all the "Should I get a Rubi or a Sport/Sahara" threads we see, and how they're all answered. If an option package along the lines of this special edition was offered, I'm sure it would appear in many of those threads as a good compromise.
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I agree that the badging is silly--why call it a "Moab" when a stock Rubi is, in fact, better suited to Moab??

On the other hand, I really wish options along these lines were generally available. It'd be a good intermediary between a Sport and a Rubi. Think of all the "Should I get a Rubi or a Sport/Sahara" threads we see, and how they're all answered. If an option package along the lines of this special edition was offered, I'm sure it would appear in many of those threads as a good compromise.
I could have sworn I've read these same threads...."Should I buy it? Or Build it?" or "Sahara vs Rubicon Purchase Decision"

Of course a Rubicon is better, it always will be. This does fill a void with the optional rear locker. I'd like to see it here in MI where the Rubicon box is nice but not necessary. I mean you get the package with some have argued is $4,500 from AEV, and leather, and premium top standard, and a few other goodies, like gas cap and tail lamp guards. As long as the price is right it's a natural fit for anyone who wants more than a Rubicon and would change the front axle anyways. I hope they have BFG's as an option with that locker. fingers crossed.
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Maybe thats the reason you dont get a front locker or the 4:1 T-case ... Jeep knows their front axle tubes are way too weak, the C-knuckles are way too weak, the front axle u-joint caps fall off, and the ball joints fail too often and too early. They're saving us money, because we get an almost Rubicon and we dont need to spend the money on a front axle that needs replaced anyway. And the 4:1 T-case is lower than you need for Moab now that they have a better automatic transmission with a much lower first gear. With the new auto trans the 2.72:1 T-case will be fine.
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Maybe thats the reason you dont get a front locker or the 4:1 T-case ... Jeep knows their front axle tubes are way too weak, the C-knuckles are way too weak, the front axle u-joint caps fall off, and the ball joints fail too often and too early. They're saving us money, because we get an almost Rubicon and we dont need to spend the money on a front axle that needs replaced anyway. And the 4:1 T-case is lower than you need for Moab now that they have a better automatic transmission with a much lower first gear. With the new auto trans the 2.72:1 T-case will be fine.
For anything with 37's or larger you'd want to upgrade everything you listed. And most do. I guess I don't get why you would start with a Rubicon only to change the very elements that make it a Rubicon...Motor I get it, Transmission I get it, but if you are swapping axles, then disco's and sometimes T-case go with it. Meh to each his own. I like the Neutered COD
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I think the MOAB is aimed squarely at Toyota FJ & 4Runner owners + the Nissan xTerra crowd.

The FJ doors are awkward and those folks with bigger kids need something. Some will get 4Runners, but those who want more capability will be looking hard at Jeep's offerings.

The Nissan xTerra is a nice package, but the MOAB makes Jeep more competitive for those xTerra owners who want leather too.

Neutered? Yes.
Good strategic marketing move? Yes!
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Maybe thats the reason you dont get a front locker or the 4:1 T-case ... Jeep knows their front axle tubes are way too weak, the C-knuckles are way too weak, the front axle u-joint caps fall off, and the ball joints fail too often and too early. They're saving us money, because we get an almost Rubicon and we dont need to spend the money on a front axle that needs replaced anyway. And the 4:1 T-case is lower than you need for Moab now that they have a better automatic transmission with a much lower first gear. With the new auto trans the 2.72:1 T-case will be fine.
Just a tad insight for you. The D44 uses the same axle tubes and C Knuckles as the D30.
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Just a tad insight for you. The D44 uses the same axle tubes and C Knuckles as the D30.
Yah, I know that. Thats why I said Jeep is saving people money, because they don't have to buy a Rubicon front axle and locker, just to replace it before going to Moab. They can buy a "Moab" instead.
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Thats a big fat FAIL on the color selection. If anything, if they are calling it a MOAB edition, at least have a special orange/red rock color for it to match the area sandstone
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Man, you all have turned my perspective around.

Change ver. MOAB to ver. DIY and you all have a valid point.

See, that's why I keep coming here: To ejidicate myself.
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When I was in Toledo last weekend an employee for the "tire and wheel supplier" said he was mounting tires on a black rim with a small RED jeep willy's on the edge. Interesting.
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Other than a Stewie diaper changer it's the NV4500 transmission. My favorite tranny ever made.
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