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Old 10-13-2018, 04:07 PM
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Traded the TJ... sob.. but loving the new ride. Have to say for my needs and the family I should’ve did this a long time ago ! JK rides great.


My first mod was going to be Red Rock spacers. I just like to move the tires out so there more in line with the fenders . Not into the tucked in look. They get great reviews and it’s pretty inexpensive .

Second part of my question was the BFG stock MT, and how they perform in Winter. I hear they are great in deep snow but what about the slushy, plowed stuff or icy conditions. With the JK, ABS and BFG MTs is it pretty good? I had KO2s on the TJ (no ABS) and they were great for the winter/ icy stuff we have here in Ohio.

The reason I’m asking all of this, I was wondering if the MTs aren’t so great, maybe I just get some bigger, wider tires that would fill it out and Then i would not need spacers .

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Old 10-13-2018, 04:26 PM   #2
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They are not great but, in my experience, not as bad as forum general consensus.

I bought my JK in Sept and when I read about winter tires, I thought I would surely die if I tried my commute in my KM2s... And I've never had a problem, two years later.

Mine are starting to harden due to age and I may go with another set.

It is true that I drive slower in rain/slush/ice than I do in my A4 but I don't see it as a major issue.

The biggest complaint I have is the lack of siping. I bought a tire siper but haven't used it yet.

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I’m not a fan of the OE MTs. And judging by their low repurchase rate, no one else is either.

Among my issues: they wear fast, they wear unevenly, they get loud, they lose traction easily in wet and in near-freezing conditions.

If you get a set of 275s you may not need spacers at all.
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Congrats! I just sold my TJ for a JK myself, I hope to take delivery this weekend. I was very hesitant to let my TJ go, I hope to enjoy the JK

If you get the center tread blocks siped, it will help with wet traction. I ran the old BFG MT's year round on my TJ and that helped a lot.
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Old 10-17-2018, 08:21 AM   #5
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I had mine through two winters in Wyoming and never had a problem. They are great for in deep snow.
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Congrats! I just sold my TJ for a JK myself, I hope to take delivery this weekend. I was very hesitant to let my TJ go, I hope to enjoy the JK

If you get the center tread blocks siped, it will help with wet traction. I ran the old BFG MT's year round on my TJ and that helped a lot.
I have never been able to find a tire shop in North Ohio that does that. Wish I could.
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I have never been able to find a tire shop in North Ohio that does that. Wish I could.
Interesting. I had mine done at Discount Tire some 10+ years ago, it appears they no longer offer that service.
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I have never been able to find a tire shop in North Ohio that does that. Wish I could.
I ran into the same issue you did except here in Michigan. Nobody in my area would sipe tires anymore, either due to policy or the machine was broken down and they hadn't bothered fixing it. I decided to do it myself, so I bought an ideal tire groover off amazon and did the center blocks of my stock KM's. I believe I put between 4 and 6 sipes in each center block. Didn't touch the shoulders cause I didn't want them to chunk.

They did fine in winter after that but after two winters and sliding in the rain this spring I opted to not bother siping them again and went with a new set of Cooper AT3 XLT's.
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I've been through 2 winters with my 16 HR and these tires and had no issues. We are having more ice storms lately and they do pretty well even in them. I have 30k on the stock tires and am down to about 7/32nds of tread. They have worn pretty flat with some cupping, which was to be expected. I run 34lbs of air in them. I'm trying to decide if I want to get rid of them before winter and go with an A/T tire, I'm finding some that look like they will be aggressive enough for me as I'm not into getting buried in mud. Drive smart and i think you will be ok with them.
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Traded the TJ... sob.. but loving the new ride. Have to say for my needs and the family I shouldve did this a long time ago ! JK rides great.


My first mod was going to be Red Rock spacers. I just like to move the tires out so there more in line with the fenders . Not into the tucked in look. They get great reviews and its pretty inexpensive .

Second part of my question was the BFG stock MT, and how they perform in Winter. I hear they are great in deep snow but what about the slushy, plowed stuff or icy conditions. With the JK, ABS and BFG MTs is it pretty good? I had KO2s on the TJ (no ABS) and they were great for the winter/ icy stuff we have here in Ohio.

The reason Im asking all of this, I was wondering if the MTs arent so great, maybe I just get some bigger, wider tires that would fill it out and Then i would not need spacers .
Beautiful Jeep man!

I think we have the same Willys, although mine is a '16.

Regarding your second question:

The 255/75R17's (32.1 inch tire) are worth wearing for a few seasons if you can put aesthetics aside.

(Personally, I think their pretty cool.)

Atleast get to know how they handle for yourself. I just hit 25,000 miles on mine and I think their a real blast in the snow on the roads, highways, and trails here in Northern Utah. Get some chains for the ice. I bet your tires will impress you.

Try not to underestimate a stock jeep. Let alone a Willys, which is not so stock imo.
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I'm a real big "use the best tires for the purpose" guy. Maybe all my years of roadrace cars and a trailer full of various race tires.

Anyways, I look at the BFGs as "just good enough" for everything. Do they pass on the trail? Sure. Not the best, but they work. Are they better than all terrains in the snow? Sure. Not nearly as good as dedicated snows, but they are just ok. Are they going to wear ok on the street? Well, sort of, at the expense of getting low enough in tread depth that they soon become useless in mud on trails and snow.

Bear with me, I have a big shed with lots of wheels/tires. Let me just tell you what I run.

Trail: Dick Cepec 295-70-17 on OEM wheels. With the spacers you talk about, these will be great and have much better traction than the BFGs.

Snow: General Arctic Altimax on the OEM 16" steels in a narrow (I think I'm running 235-80-16) width to cut through snow.

When I'm going to be only on the street, I swap to the OEM all season Goodyear Wranglers. They keep the wear off my Cepecs.

It sounds like I'm doing a lot of changing of tires. In reality, I have another car, so during the non-winter, the Wrangler sits on the Cepecs. Once we hit thanksgiving, I'll likely go to the snows and shortly afterwards, bolt the snow plow frame back on.
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The BFG MTs that came on our 2018 JKRR were decent in the rain and snow as long as I didn't try to turn. Forget turning on the ice. If the road has any lean to it, when icy you're going towards the lean with the MTs.
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I went up Mt Hood on my way back from picking up my new Jeep in Idaho. I thought the stock MT's on my JKUR were pretty bad on snow. They wandered far more than the AT KO2's I'm used to using. I'm a native of SoCal so I tend to drive cautiously in the snow. The MT"s had me driving more cautiously.

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i had them on my Hard Rock. As you mentioned, great in deep snow. I only drove on snow covered local roads, with no problems whatsoever. No abnormal slipping or sliding.

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