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Old 12-24-2015, 08:06 AM
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Newly Questions - Car to Jeep Transition

Good day!
I hope these questions aren't ridiculous, I have never owned a Jeep and I am very interested in getting one. I'm in Canada, and have been reading quite a bit about them, and almost ready to bite the bullet. I have a few small queries, would be grateful if someone could help.
Merry Christmas, Thanks in advance, Paul

A. Towing Capacity: Have read all about these, and that the Sport model only supports 2000lbs, and then all of the justification for this, mainly short wheel base. I like the Sport so much (as apposed to the Unlimited) that I think I'll choose a very small tent trailer, rather than travel trailer, under 2000lbs. Thanks for all of the information on here. My question remaining is, how can one quickly tell from the vehicle what the Rear Axle Ratio is? Is this easily attainable when looking at the Unlimited to see whether configured to haul 3500lbs or not, I might consider Unlimited in a couple of years, if I end up loving my Jeep Sport.

B. Might be the crappiest question ever: Are the seats, electronics, dash, etc. on 2013 Jeep Wrangler Sport robust enough to get caught out in the wet weather with the doors and roof off? I intend to take the doors off, the roof off, install some mirrors, and keep the Jeep that way Spring/Summer/Fall, and curious about getting caught in the rain, are they built to be able to deal with this, or it is mandatory that they don't get wet inside?

C. Hard top vs Soft Top vs Both: I have seen a few 2012s, 2013s etc. Jeep Wranglers, some have had Hard Tops, some soft, and some with both. When looking online, is there any particular rule/model number etc. that clearly one can determine whether the Jeep came originally with Hard/Soft/Both? Can see from the photos which roof is presently installed, but seems to be hit and miss whether say Hard Top has an actual soft top also, without having to email and ask dealer/owner?

D. Soft Top: How are these in Canadian Winters? The one I have my eye on is a Soft Top, with no hard top. I'm just curious how they are in winter?

That's about it.
I'm hoping dealer is open today and will let me take the Wrangler Sport home, to see how if fits in garage etc., and give me a good feel on how it operates on highway, and around the city.

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First, welcome to the Forum. (and Merry Christmas if it applies)

Some of your questions will generate opinioned answers...

1. Towing capacity is different between the 2 as you already know. Axle ratios can be determined normally by looking at the Window sticker for new vehicles, some differentials have a tab attached which tells their ratio, otherwise no other distinguishing method other than lifting the axle up and comparing the drive shaft rotations with a single revolution of the wheel. Last resort is that you look inside the differential and see if you can see the stamped marking.

2. Yes and no. Go take a look for yourself at the amount of plastic parts in a Jeep interior. There are options for manual windows as well as half-doors, to reduce the dependency on electric window controls.

3. Pros and cons both ways on this. In the winter, cleaning ice from glass can be easier than off soft windows if you are worried about scratching the soft windows. Soft tops can be cold in the winter and have limited insulation while the OEM hard top is more durable, you can also add insulation to it which helps hold heat as well as reducing noise.

Good luck with your choices and don't be afraid... just do it... go get yourself a Jeep!

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Old 12-24-2015, 08:50 AM   #3
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A. you can crawl under the Wrangler and there are codes stamped on the axle that will tell you what it is, or run the VIN

change ReplaceWithVIN in the link with the VIN and you will get the original build that will say what axle it was shipped with.

B. My TJ and 2007 JK were caught in the downpour a few times without issue, I wouldn't make it a habit, there are some covers knocking around that you can protect the Wrangler in cases like this.

C. I would not assume that it have both tops, unless the seller specify dual tops, dual tops were common with the older model Sahara. Tinted glass hard or soft makes a difference. I bought a soft top for my 4 door in Toronto for $1,000 it was brand new, cruise craigslist to get an idea, hard tops are significantly harder to find on craigslist or similar.

D. I ran my Sahara in Toronto soft top only for many years, the only issue with soft top in the winter is the security, and the back window tend to get messy and you cannot see out the back that well, but you have 2 big mirrors on the doors, so it was a non issue for me. A hard top is no warmer than a soft in the winter, I do not think that the Wrangler is more cold in the winter vs any other vehicle.
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