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Odyssey Extreme Battery - any negatives?

I am looking at the Odyssey Extreme series battery on the Quadratec website. I was curious if there are any negatives with this battery except the price?

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I am looking at the Odyssey Extreme series battery on the Quadratec website. I was curious if there are any negatives with this battery except the price?

There should be 1 negative and 1 positive.




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I am looking at the Odyssey Extreme series battery on the Quadratec website. I was curious if there are any negatives with this battery except the price?
Ehh, this battery is like all the others, it has it's positives and negatives...
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I guess I set myself up for that response.
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On a serious note I replaced my OEM for the Odyssey because I put a Zeon 10S winch on my Jeep. I bought it from Rick/Quadratec and it was a smooth transaction. It is a direct replacement for 2012-2016 models. I have used my winch a few times but nothing extreme so I can't tell how well it works under heavy use. It is a little bit smaller than the OEM but fits perfectly fine (do not buy the spacer to rise it up). If you go for it, it is heavy so to install it lift the hood all the way against the windshield. That will give you enough room to pull the OEM out and put the Odyssey in place without breaking anything around (like a I did)

The only negative so far is that is expensive.

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Don't you need an external battery charger for the Odyssey batteries to top it off routinely? Apparently the Jeep's charging system isn't enough to feed the hungry cells of the Odyssey...I think I read that somewhere in another battery thread.
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Don't you need an external battery charger for the Odyssey batteries to top it off routinely? Apparently the Jeep's charging system isn't enough to feed the hungry cells of the Odyssey...I think I read that somewhere in another battery thread.
I would do that. Maybe 3 or 4 times a year.
Enersys batteries like a hefty bulk charge that our alternators can't supply.

If you're ever in an extreme state where you're winching with the engine off, make double sure to use a battery charger on it when you get home too.
Every battery likes to be kept full.

All things equal, if I were shopping for a premium battery, it would be an Optima. Better suited to our vehicle.
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Thanks for the replies. I think I read about the charging and the Jeep system as well and that was what was sticking in my mind. So as I was considering it, an add popped up on my work computer from Sears about a 25% off sale. I just pulled the trigger on an Advanced Gold AGM for $126. Used some Sears points that paid my sales tax. I need to buy some Ace rails and a couple skids, so the $150 difference can go to other Jeep things. I also want a soft top, a winch, a...
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I've had them in the past and they didn't last as long as a conventional battery, however, they had enough juice to get me going when they were drained, where I know a conventional battery prob wouldn't have even clicked the starter.
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I think they are great, except for the price. I have used them for years in my Dodge diesel pickup (2), and in my previous TJ. When I have to replace a stock battery I upgrade to the Odyssey. With the AGM battery there is never any corrosion at the post or mounts.
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Thanks for the replies. I think I read about the charging and the Jeep system as well and that was what was sticking in my mind. So as I was considering it, an add popped up on my work computer from Sears about a 25% off sale. I just pulled the trigger on an Advanced Gold AGM for $126. Used some Sears points that paid my sales tax. I need to buy some Ace rails and a couple skids, so the $150 difference can go to other Jeep things. I also want a soft top, a winch, a...
I'm unsure about the Advanced Gold that you got but the Sears Die-Hard Platinums are an AGM battery and are made by Odyssey. The difference is that the Die-Hard platinum cost less and have a better warranty. Many JK owners have gone with the Die-Hard Platinum including myself where they are one of the top recommended batteries for the JK. I got the Marine Die-Hard platinum battery since it comes with the extra connectors which makes connecting/disconnecting your winch a breeze. I have read some have had bad experiences with the Die-Hard Golds...those aren't made by Odyssey, I believe they're either made by Johnson Controls who now make the Optimas or East Penn Manf.See this link for more details on actual manufactures of the different Sears Diehard batteries.
http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/batbrand.htm

You might want to consider doing an exchange if possible if a Die-hard platinum is available.

I also believe the battery size may have changed for 2012+ JK's, so I'm unsure if a Die-Hard Platinum is available.
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This is the battery that fits my 2016 JKUS, bought off Amazon:

Odyssey Batteries 34R-PC1500T-A Automotive/Light Truck and Van Battery

I too bought it due to my Warn Platinum Zeon 10-S

As far as topping it off, I have mine setup with a National Luna intelligent solenoid which only charges the accessory battery after the starter is "topped off" 5 minutes after Jeep starting, and according to my battery meters the accessory battery is getting charged just fine (hence starter must be getting topped off as well from alternator).
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I'm unsure about the Advanced Gold that you got but the Sears Die-Hard Platinums are an AGM battery and are made by Odyssey. The difference is that the Die-Hard platinum cost less and have a better warranty. Many JK owners have gone with the Die-Hard Platinum including myself where they are one of the top recommended batteries for the JK. I got the Marine Die-Hard platinum battery since it comes with the extra connectors which makes connecting/disconnecting your winch a breeze. I have read some have had bad experiences with the Die-Hard Golds...those aren't made by Odyssey, I believe they're either made by Johnson Controls who now make the Optimas or East Penn Manf.See this link for more details on actual manufactures of the different Sears Diehard batteries.
Lead-Acid Battery Manufacturers and Brand Names List 2016

You might want to consider doing an exchange if possible if a Die-hard platinum is available.

I also believe the battery size may have changed for 2012+ JK's, so I'm unsure if a Die-Hard Platinum is available.
Enersys makes Odyssey and used to make the DieHard Platinum. They haven't made it for a while now. Sears ended the relationship.
JCI is the largest manufacturer of private label automotive batteries so it wouldn't surprise me if they made the Gold.
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Platinum isn't available anymore. Should I cancel my Gold AGM order and spend the extra $150 for the Odyssey??

Stock battery is working still. Jeep is a 2015. I'm running two amps off the stock battery and hope to get a winch within the next 6 mo.
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Platinum isn't available anymore. Should I cancel my Gold AGM order and spend the extra $150 for the Odyssey??

Stock battery is working still. Jeep is a 2015. I'm running two amps off the stock battery and hope to get a winch within the next 6 mo.
I wouldn't...
Just don't run your amps or winch without something to replenish your system:
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2) shore power
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I think I'm going to stick with the Diehard this go-round. I can get a gas tank skid with the cost savings.
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Don't you need an external battery charger for the Odyssey batteries to top it off routinely? Apparently the Jeep's charging system isn't enough to feed the hungry cells of the Odyssey...I think I read that somewhere in another battery thread.
Really? I didn't know that. I bought the Odyssey because of the excellent reviews in this forum and more importantly because the Optima Yellow Top didn't have a direct fit for my JKUR 2014. Good to know. Now the battery is on my garage floor next to the Winch because I traded in my 2014 for a 2016 JKU Hard Rock and I'm using a 3 Amp Battery Tender Power Plus to keep it charged while I'm saving some money to buy another Maximus-3 winch mounting plate.

I never had to top it off my Yellow Top during the 7 years I had it until I sold the Jeep it was in. That's a negative for the Odyssey to me. I guess is the price to pay for a hungry Deep Cycle battery and hope it last at least the 7 years the Optima did.
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Really? I didn't know that. I bought the Odyssey because of the excellent reviews in this forum and more importantly because the Optima Yellow Top didn't have a direct fit for my JKUR 2014. Good to know. Now the battery is on my garage floor next to the Winch because I traded in my 2014 for a 2016 JKU Hard Rock and I'm using a 3 Amp Battery Tender Power Plus to keep it charged while I'm saving some money to buy another Maximus-3 winch mounting plate.

I never had to top it off my Yellow Top during the 7 years I had it until I sold the Jeep it was in. That's a negative for the Odyssey to me. I guess is the price to pay for a hungry Deep Cycle battery and hope it last at least the 7 years the Optima did.
Hit that battery with a bigger charger every so often. A 3 amp charger won't keep it happy. Read their charging parameters.
When I had an Enersys battery I bought a specific charger just for it. Overall, wasn't worth it. Won't buy another one of their products...
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Really? I didn't know that. I bought the Odyssey because of the excellent reviews in this forum and more importantly because the Optima Yellow Top didn't have a direct fit for my JKUR 2014. Good to know. Now the battery is on my garage floor next to the Winch because I traded in my 2014 for a 2016 JKU Hard Rock and I'm using a 3 Amp Battery Tender Power Plus to keep it charged while I'm saving some money to buy another Maximus-3 winch mounting plate.

I never had to top it off my Yellow Top during the 7 years I had it until I sold the Jeep it was in. That's a negative for the Odyssey to me. I guess is the price to pay for a hungry Deep Cycle battery and hope it last at least the 7 years the Optima did.
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OP here.. Went to go pick up my AGM Diehard at Sears. I received email confirmation to go pick it up in Automotive. Of course, the guy at the counter had no idea what to do with my email confirmation that it was there. He said he hadn't ever seen one before. Then he searched and said the battery wasn't there and had nothing to tell me. I paid for it 2 days ago and I have no battery. I went online and cancelled the order.

Back to looking at Odyssey. I want one, but the charging maintenance and the cost of the Odyssey charger is definitely a negative.
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Back to looking at Odyssey. I want one, but the charging maintenance and the cost of the Odyssey charger is definitely a negative.
I don't get this at all, my Odyssey charges fully from alternator no problems.
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Really? I didn't know that.
It sounds like a bunch of B.S., I definitely wouldn't trust that information. It sounds like a bunch of made up information coming from someone that is confused on some termonology. Typically, the alternator just needs to exceed a specific minimum voltage level according to the battery charge specs which are all pretty similar and then charging of the battery will begin. The amp's the alternator is able to provide just determines how long the charge will take. The more amps, the faster the charging rate. So the B.S. of a 3Amp charger won't do it, couldn't be farther from the truth. It will just take it longer to fully charge that battery.

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I don't get this at all, my Odyssey charges fully from alternator no problems.
As it should. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
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Pardon the cut-off picture, my meter is mounted under steering wheel so it is not always easy to get a perfectly lined up picture.

Odyssey is on the left, as you can see clearly charged.



FWIW anything over 13.1 volts and National Luna Intelligent solenoid starts charging the auxiliary battery. If charge drops below 12.7 volts the solenoid will open the circuit isolating the batteries from each other.
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Hit that battery with a bigger charger every so often. A 3 amp charger won't keep it happy. Read their charging parameters.
When I had an Enersys battery I bought a specific charger just for it. Overall, wasn't worth it. Won't buy another one of their products...
How about providing some reference charging parameters to start backing up some of your claims about the Enersys odyssey batteries and provide some Optima Yellow/Red Charging parameters as well for comparison purposes because it's starting to smell like a bunch of B.S. is being spread in here.
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Nice, what model is it? When I looked for the Optima Yellow Top back in early 2014 they only offered the Red Top with the terminals inverted as it is in your picture. If I remember correctly the only difference in the model # was the new Red Top had an R next to the 34 as reversed but don't quote me on this because that was my assumption at that time. I read in another forum about buying a yellow top designed for a different group that had the correct position of the posts (+ facing the firewall and - facing front grill) but didn't want to buy an experiment and get short in capacity.

Anyway, I hope the Odyssey will work as advertised otherwise I will replace it with a Yellow Top
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It sounds like a bunch of B.S., I definitely wouldn't trust that information. It sounds like a bunch of made up information coming from someone that is confused on some termonology. Typically, the alternator just needs to exceed a specific minimum voltage level according to the battery charge specs which are all pretty similar and then charging of the battery will begin. The amp's the alternator is able to provide just determines how long the charge will take. The more amps, the faster the charging rate. So the B.S. of a 3Amp charger won't do it, couldn't be farther from the truth. It will just take it longer to fully charge that battery.



As it should. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
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Pardon the cut-off picture, my meter is mounted under steering wheel so it is not always easy to get a perfectly lined up picture.

Odyssey is on the left, as you can see clearly charged.



FWIW anything over 13.1 volts and National Luna Intelligent solenoid starts charging the auxiliary battery. If charge drops below 12.7 volts the solenoid will open the circuit isolating the batteries from each other.
Thanks for the pics nycgags. That exactly what I'm getting with my charger on the Odyssey when is fully charged: 13.7V

Ok, one thing less to worry about today LOL
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So not trying to push any buttons, seems some here are not getting right data. I bought two odyssey batt's to install in a Genesis dual kit. Went to the source since everyone on the internet knows more than me. Called enersys( sp?) and spoke with an engineer. Very polite. You need 20A or more and I think it was 14.4v to properly maintain an odyssey 1500. They no longer sell a charger at the time but gave me recommendations. One was a CTEK25000. 25A 8 step charger/ maintainer. The jk alternator is not enough to properly maintain this batt and might be why you hear people saying they got short life. Have to put them on charge a couple times a year and swap the primary and accessory batt once a year. No biggie but that's what I got from speaking to an enersys engineer

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How long do you have to leave it on the charger 2x a year? I am doing the same setup. 1500 x2 in a genesis kit.

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How long do you have to leave it on the charger 2x a year? I am doing the same setup. 1500 x2 in a genesis kit.

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I was told to charge it using the pos terminal of one batt and the neg terminal of the other. Thinking the isolator will become a problem, I did not bring that up in our conversation, so I charge the primary battery until the charger goes into trickle. Done it twice this way and it takes overnight or 12 hours according to my usage. I spoke with Genesis and was told to use a NOCO Genius or something like that as it has four jumpers.

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