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Old 01-24-2020, 06:38 PM
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Off road Radio?

Hello Guys, whats a good Radio for goong off road and no cell reception? FRS, GMRS, CB? for emergencies, Thank you so much!!!

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Depends where you going and what repeaters are around you (ham radio). The only thing that’s 100% sure to work is a sat phone.

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A set of Family radio handsets can be helpful . I was given a set years ago I use them when backing up a trailer and the Dodge diesel. I cannot hear a spotter but shut the windows and use the radio I can.

Also have used them vehicle to vehicle or give it to a kid when they are out exploring . I think having a set is a very good thing if you go camping , boating where cell phones do not work. .

Longer range vehicle to vehicle CB ,

More money is a Ham - license required but it is not that bad . Other jeepers especially in the east not likely to have a Ham. With the right antenna set up you can talk a long way in an emergency - hurricane it is very helpful.

But for most the Family and the CB. If tight on money just the CB.
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Sat phone or ham radio are the only two that will have any degree of success reaching help when you're out of cell phone range. CB and FRS are only good for vehicle to vehicle communication when you're traveling with a group. Don't count on them to get you help.
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I just did a Baofeng BF-F8HP. It’s ham and I don’t have a license yet but am slowly learning and will get the ham license. In the mean time it will do just about everything else.

For emergencies I carry an InReach to do satellite texting to the boss...
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Another vote for have radio. Great for Jeep to Jeep comms and decent chance if hitting a repeater. You can but repeaters for 20 or more miles
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I wonder how many skeletons wearing "jeep hair, dont care" tee shirts are found in their Jeeps on an annual basis ?
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Off road Radio?

If you get a sat phone make sure it uses LEO (Iridium, Globalstar) satellites and not GEO (Inmarsat). If you’re in a canyon or the north side of a mountain the GEOs may not work. I believe they also have issues far up north like in Alaska.
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I just recently purchased 4 baofeng UV 5r walkies. They are great! Work crystal clear in long distance and were only $26 bucks. Keep em in my off road bag or take when I go hiking with the family
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Find out what active Jeep folks in your area use. No fun buying one when all the peeps are using something else.
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Find out what active Jeep folks in your area use. No fun buying one when all the peeps are using something else.
x2 to this. It doesn't matter what you use if no one else wheeling with you is using the same thing.
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I think the OP was interested in emergency comms? In that case it doesn’t matter what other people are using. If you’re by yourself or far away from a camp a CB radios useless.
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I have both CB & a Ham radio
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I think the OP was interested in emergency comms? In that case it doesn’t matter what other people are using. If you’re by yourself or far away from a camp a CB radios useless.
Yeah, you are right. Reading problems are real! But still, find out what other folks have. Don't wheel alone. Garmin Insight or Spot if you are. There are also EPIRBS you can get. Where I am mountains block most LOS comms. Repeaters are hard to hit on some trails.
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Yeah, you are right. Reading problems are real! But still, find out what other folks have. Don't wheel alone. Garmin Insight or Spot if you are. There are also EPIRBS you can get. Where I am mountains block most LOS comms. Repeaters are hard to hit on some trails.

I have the same problem in Arizona. I can be down in a deep valley and not be able to hit a repeater. I have an an Iridium phone that has the SOS button connected to GEOS. I would only use that in a life-threatening situation since they will send out search and rescue to my coordinates. Most of the time I just call home to check in. But the phone could be useful to call back to camp if needed.
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I think the OP was interested in emergency comms? In that case it doesn’t matter what other people are using. If you’re by yourself or far away from a camp a CB radios useless.
The walkies I posted before have an SOS that can be broadcasted over the emergency frequency. I dont understand the difficulty of this. Some people dont want to spend money on a ham radio, then buy mounts, an antenna, etc. The walkies work fine. I bought 2 for $26 each. If you roll with a buddy, give them the other one. If you roll with a large group, give one walkie to someone you trust. Its pretty simple
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I have the same problem in Arizona. I can be down in a deep valley and not be able to hit a repeater. I have an an Iridium phone that has the SOS button connected to GEOS. I would only use that in a life-threatening situation since they will send out search and rescue to my coordinates. Most of the time I just call home to check in. But the phone could be useful to call back to camp if needed.
Hey! Guess where I am!

Did you hear about the plane crash by Payson last Friday? Guy used his Garmin Inreach watch to call for help and it gave lat long. Not heard full story.
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I have both CB & a Ham radio
Same here.

One 65w 2M hard-mounted in the Jeep and an 8W handi-talkie for walkabout.
I'll program repeaters in for the area I'm going to/through.

There are a bunch of threads on here about the merits of ham radios.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/h...t-2331159.html
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/s...s-2172842.html
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The walkies I posted before have an SOS that can be broadcasted over the emergency frequency. I dont understand the difficulty of this. Some people dont want to spend money on a ham radio, then buy mounts, an antenna, etc. The walkies work fine. I bought 2 for $26 each. If you roll with a buddy, give them the other one. If you roll with a large group, give one walkie to someone you trust. Its pretty simple
Which emergency frequency would this be? I don't know of any except Ch16 on the marine band, which is not for use on land. As far as I know, a Baofeng can't do this (transmit an SOS on any "emergency frequency". A Baofeng 5UV is a wide band radio that can be programmed to transmit on ham, GMRS, FRS, MURS, business band and public service frequencies and usable on other non ham frequencies.

Technically, they can't be used to transmit on any frequency as they are not FCC certified however, many of us use them on the ham bands.

It's not as simple as you make it out to be. If you are in a group, you need jeep to jeep coms and have others that can help you, therefore you need what everyone else has. If you frequently go out in a very small group in places where there may be no cell reception, someone really should have the ability to summon help and that is a sat phone, ELT or ham radio. I'm sorry but you using a 5W Baofeng on something like FRS isn't going to cut it. If you use it on a public service frequency for a genuine emergency, you will get help but the aftermath may be not what you want, providing a PS Dispatcher even responds to you.

To the OP, I run a Kenwood dual band ham rig and a Cobra 75 CB in my jeep and I have a couple of 8W Baofengs in the console.
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.... If you use it on a public service frequency for a genuine emergency, you will get help but the aftermath may be not what you want, providing a PS Dispatcher even responds to you.....
They will in my county. But you dang-well better have a legit emergency.

Some national park and federal fs use ham frequencies. I've found that they don't know what those frequencies are though; their "tech guy" programs the channels in for them and they use a commercial repeater. But you can search them and usually find out.

We have one commercial repeater for CERT and several others for members with a license.
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The cheap Chinese radios (Baofeng etc) just transmit a siren noise when you push the emergency button.. If there's no one there to hear it, then it's useless. These handheld walkie-talkies have very limited range. That's the last thing I'd depend on.

For dependable emergency use, a satellite phone is the absolute best.

If you're traveling with friends, then you'd all have to settle on the same type of radio, (CB, GMRS, ham etc).

Don't overlook HF ham radio.

Under good or average conditions, I talk with a friend in the mornings on the 80 meter band. He has a mobile HF radio in his semi. (Same radio that I have in my Jeep).. He travels back and forth between North Dakota and Montana trucking alcohol between a distillery and a gasohol refiner. At the furthest point of his route, he can be up to 300 miles away from me. We talk directly to each other. No repeaters, no sweat. (Can't do that with a VHF/UHF Baofeng)..

Unless there are major storms on the sun to screw up propagation, there are always people chatting with each other that you can reach directly on the HF bands. They might be two or three states away, but most would be glad to phone or text a local friend for you, or to contact your local emergency service if you were in real trouble.
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They will in my county. But you dang-well better have a legit emergency.

Some national park and federal fs use ham frequencies. I've found that they don't know what those frequencies are though; their "tech guy" programs the channels in for them and they use a commercial repeater. But you can search them and usually find out.

We have one commercial repeater for CERT and several others for members with a license.
My county is 800 MHZ Trunked system and the legacy system is VHF low band. I don't think the Baofeng will talk to them.
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1. InReach, satellite
2. HAM, with technician's license
3. HAM, with no license, which is legal in emergencies
4. CB
5. FRS/GMRS

4 and 5 have awfully limited range and are better than nothing but not by much.
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My county is 800 MHZ Trunked system and the legacy system is VHF low band. I don't think the Baofeng will talk to them.
We use narrow band 155 still except for one city's local PD.
They've been talking about going to 800 digital for some time. I think they keep the 2M so that they can make it easy for ARES, just in case.

GA State Patrol ---- has 800/2M/CB in most of their rigs. The helicopters too.
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Unless there are major storms on the sun to screw up propagation, there are always people chatting with each other that you can reach directly on the HF bands. They might be two or three states away, but most would be glad to phone or text a local friend for you, or to contact your local emergency service if you were in real trouble.

I’m not disagreeing with you, I have a nice HF set up base station and I can always reach somebody on one of the bands. I thought about putting an HF in my Jeep but decided not to. In a time critical emergency, to get a hold of someone and have them call the correct dispatch search and rescue could take a lot of time. Sat phone with GEOS is the fastest and most effective.
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We used the handheld radios for a year but they kept flying around the Jeep and having to replace batteries got tiresome. So, we installed CBs. All in one unit cobra 75. When we hit the trail or go to a get-together, just grab it and mount it. Otherwise, it stays in the glovebox.
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We used the handheld radios for a year but they kept flying around the Jeep and having to replace batteries got tiresome. So, we installed CBs. All in one unit cobra 75. When we hit the trail or go to a get-together, just grab it and mount it. Otherwise, it stays in the glovebox.
Our group uses hand-held radios. I use Velcro to stick mine on the A pillar. Works great. Mine came with rechargeable batteries, so I just charge them up after each run. The radios are going on six years old and still have the original batteries. I have the yellow Motorola radios that I got at Costco.
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I just ordered a ham radio.

HESENATE HT-UV5R Plus HAM Two-Way Radio 5-Watt w/ 3800mAh Extended Battery Dual-Band 136-174/400-520MHz Walkie Talkie FM Transceiver

No idea how to use it, but a buddy said to get one for our trip.
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I just ordered a ham radio.

HESENATE HT-UV5R Plus HAM Two-Way Radio 5-Watt w/ 3800mAh Extended Battery Dual-Band 136-174/400-520MHz Walkie Talkie FM Transceiver

No idea how to use it, but a buddy said to get one for our trip.
You use it after you pass your ham license test. Otherwise, you're illegal and the ham community has no qualms about outing you.
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You use it after you pass your ham license test. Otherwise, you're illegal and the ham community has no qualms about outing you.
For now,its for emergencies.

I'll have time to study for it in the next few months.

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