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Old 02-09-2019, 08:52 AM   #751
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Saw some falken 255/80-17 yesterday very impressive pizza cutter.

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Anyone have input on the ST Maxx and the Ridge Grapplers on a functional standpoint? Wet traction, road noise, etc..

Going to get some 255-80-17's in a few months.

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Awesome pics and posts....I can't believe it's been over 6 years since I started this post.....I'm still rockin my Cooper AT3's (2nd set) and still love the pizza cutter look!
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Anyone have input on the ST Maxx and the Ridge Grapplers on a functional standpoint? Wet traction, road noise, etc..

Going to get some 255-80-17's in a few months.

I run the BOLD, and can rip 55mph in 4in of snow 4HI_wd. No squirrelyness. Love them compared to the stock BFG MT I had which just sucked in the snow. No noise on paved really. No real mpg hit that I can tell for an e-rated.
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Looks good - are those on stock wheels and lift?
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Looks good - are those on stock wheels and lift?

Assuming this was too me, Yes stock black willys wheels no spacers on 2-2.5" effective lift using 10A 4dr springs.
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Anyone have input on the ST Maxx and the Ridge Grapplers on a functional standpoint? Wet traction, road noise, etc..

Going to get some 255-80-17's in a few months.

I went through a set of ST Maxxs, 255/85/16. I am an hour from Lake Tahoe, no problems in snow, rain etc...ware like iron. I now have Mastercraft Courser CXT 255/85/16.



I wish I had got 17 inch rims, little more choice in the 255/80/17 size (Falken's, Ridge Grapplers).
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I'm considering going with 16's for a little more sidewall for ride comfort.
I haven't looked at tire selection in 16's yet.
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For those comparison shopping, here is my friends JL who just put on 34x10.5x17 BFG KO2. Mine are 255/80r17 Ridge Grapplers. As we all know unmounted sizes differ from mounted size. It seems a .81 loss factor (@40psi-No Aftermarket Weight) is a consistent way of guesstimating what your true size will be. If lower psi, or more weight, or both you will get less height, if higher psi then you get closer to spec. These were all measured on level ground to a level atop the tire.

So onto the comparison...

Friend's JL Moab - BFG KO2 34x10.5

Unmounted = 33.5"
(less .81)
Mounted @ 40psi OEM Weight = 32.69"

My JK Willys - Nitto Ridge Grappler 255/80

Unmounted = 33.31"
(less .81)
Mounted @40psi OEM Weight = 32.50"
Original BFG MT Unmounted 32.05"
Original Mounted (less.81) was 31.25" at the time they were replaced

Net Difference @40psi between KO2 vs N-RG = .19" or 3/16"
Net Price Difference $128/per tire ($330-$202 * 5 tires = $640)



Therefore it will cost you $213 for every 1/16" of height between these (2) tires. KO2 wins due to chunkier tread block.


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What lift are you running and are you happy with the RGs?
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^No lift kit just 10A 4DR springs. LOVE the RG in 255. Fits factory willys wheels (which I like) with no BS spacers. Looks good on jeep without screaming "Im an urban rock crawler". Cuts thru snow and wet like nothing there, but will skate on ice like any other wheel. No noise so far and no real petrol mpg impact that I can tell.
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^No lift kit just 10A 4DR springs. LOVE the RG in 255. Fits factory willys wheels (which I like) with no BS spacers. Looks good on jeep without screaming "Im an urban rock crawler". Cuts thru snow and wet like nothing there, but will skate on ice like any other wheel. No noise so far and no real petrol mpg impact that I can tell.
Any idea how many miles people are getting out of these? These are where I am leaning. My local dealer ship runs buy 3 get the fourth free every 3 months so just waiting for that to come back around.was there any noticable loss of power with these?
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Any idea how many miles people are getting out of these? These are where I am leaning. My local dealer ship runs buy 3 get the fourth free every 3 months so just waiting for that to come back around.was there any noticable loss of power with these?

Hell no! loss of power - still can do 0-60 in a minute:04 and 1/4 mile in a day and half. Seriously, I personally think wrangler out of the box generally just sucks as a handing on road vehicle - not what they are for really. On 3.73 final and 6MT I went with 255 RGs so not to lose the nimbleness the 31in MTs offered. That was a major concern for me and the RGs are really no different, maybe slightly slow to get rolling in a heavy headwind and high gear waiting for some rpm to catch up. I have stick so I control most of that therefore not noticeable. I feel this is the max top size tire to stay on stock wheel setup in relation to my gearing. Others will debate me on this however.
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2018 JKU, 17" wheels, 3.21, and stock suspension.


Considering an upgrade to Pizza Cutters...specifically 255/80R17 Cooper ST Maxx.

They weigh in at 51lbs according to the internet, and I'll be putting them on the stock 17" alloy wheels (27lbs?) for around 78lbs, so about 15 more than stock I'm guessing?

Anyone see any problems with that? I don't need spacers or anything do I? Tailgate good with that (I think the limit is 85lbs)?

I'll be doing a TF leveling kit before or after, and plan to put on some flat fenders eventually, if that matters.

Also, how much height should I gain over the stock Goodyear Wranglers?

Appreciate the guidance. I find the subject overwhelming with information, and I've read nearly every page of this thread.
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2018 JKU, 17" wheels, 3.21, and stock suspension.


Considering an upgrade to Pizza Cutters...specifically 255/80R17 Cooper ST Maxx.

They weigh in at 51lbs according to the internet, and I'll be putting them on the stock 17" alloy wheels (27lbs?) for around 78lbs, so about 15 more than stock I'm guessing?

Anyone see any problems with that? I don't need spacers or anything do I? Tailgate good with that (I think the limit is 85lbs)?

I'll be doing a TF leveling kit before or after, and plan to put on some flat fenders eventually, if that matters.

Also, how much height should I gain over the stock Goodyear Wranglers?

Appreciate the guidance. I find the subject overwhelming with information, and I've read nearly every page of this thread.
you will be fine. you will gain an inch or so over stock 255/75-17 tires. which of course you divide that actual height in half for the overall height your jeep will gain.
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Checking in here. I’ve got 255/75-16 Cooper St Maxx tires on my Jeep. No tailgate problems and no complaints of any sort. I have an AT with a 3.73 setup and I consistently pull 22-24 mpg on the highway. Now in the city don’t expect more than 15/16 but lots of hills where I live. The tire tread is great for mud and rain. I’ve never had a problem with them gripping what they’re supposed to and they have just enough control that I can drift them if I really feel like playing around. The tire tread looks mean and they don’t make a bit of noise more than my stock tires. I highly recommend these tires to anyone curious and these will probably be the tires I run for the life of my wrangler because there’s not a lot of pizza cutter options. They look great and they perform great. You can’t ask for more than that.
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Chongosuerte -- Another option is the Falken Wildpeak AT3's. I just put these on my stock 2015 JKWW and really like the tires and ride. The Falken's are at a better price than Coopers - might check 'em out for yourself.



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2018 JKU, 17" wheels, 3.21, and stock suspension.


Considering an upgrade to Pizza Cutters...specifically 255/80R17 Cooper ST Maxx.

They weigh in at 51lbs according to the internet, and I'll be putting them on the stock 17" alloy wheels (27lbs?) for around 78lbs, so about 15 more than stock I'm guessing?

Anyone see any problems with that? I don't need spacers or anything do I? Tailgate good with that (I think the limit is 85lbs)?

I'll be doing a TF leveling kit before or after, and plan to put on some flat fenders eventually, if that matters.

Also, how much height should I gain over the stock Goodyear Wranglers?

Appreciate the guidance. I find the subject overwhelming with information, and I've read nearly every page of this thread.
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2018 JKU, 17" wheels, 3.21, and stock suspension.


Considering an upgrade to Pizza Cutters...specifically 255/80R17 Cooper ST Maxx.

They weigh in at 51lbs according to the internet, and I'll be putting them on the stock 17" alloy wheels (27lbs?) for around 78lbs, so about 15 more than stock I'm guessing?

Anyone see any problems with that? I don't need spacers or anything do I? Tailgate good with that (I think the limit is 85lbs)?

I'll be doing a TF leveling kit before or after, and plan to put on some flat fenders eventually, if that matters.

Also, how much height should I gain over the stock Goodyear Wranglers?

Appreciate the guidance. I find the subject overwhelming with information, and I've read nearly every page of this thread.
That was a misprint or mistake that was published when the size was first available. You can confirm on Cooper's website that the 255/80r17 ST Maxx is 58lbs.
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Here's mine on 255/80/17
Can you run that size on a stock jk?
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Those look fantastic!
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Nitto Trail Grappler 35X11.5X17 Pizza cutterish


How are they in the rain? Snow by chance?


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I don't know about snow,but on wet roads they are very good,no problems.
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Send a side view pic. I want to see how those tires look on the 2dr. I'm thinking of those, or the 285/75 in the Ridge Grappler. I wish they had 35/11.5 in the Ridge Grappler.
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I had these. Fantastic on and off road EXCEPT they pulled left! Swapped one out thinking it was just a single tire causing it, but ended up that 4
Of the 6 total tires I purchased had left radial pull. Bad enough that it would pull me
Into oncoming traffic if I wasn’t careful.

Shame too. LOVED those tires. Running 37x12.5r17 Patagonia’s now.
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What's your set up there.... Lift and such, are those stock fenders?
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I had these. Fantastic on and off road EXCEPT they pulled left! Swapped one out thinking it was just a single tire causing it, but ended up that 4
Of the 6 total tires I purchased had left radial pull. Bad enough that it would pull me
Into oncoming traffic if I wasn’t careful.

Shame too. LOVED those tires. Running 37x12.5r17 Patagonia’s now.
The Trail Grappler has an inside and outside specific tire mounting to the wheel there is a yellow circle that has to be mounted facing out,the side wall tread lugs are different as well from inboard to outboard,making the tire directional....I guess. Maybe your tires were mounted incorrectly,or there was a bad batch which can happen with anything manufactured . In any case mine run true and straight,no shimmy or shake and are very quiet on road.
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What's your set up there.... Lift and such, are those stock fenders?
I'm running a 3.5" TerraFlex spring lift with Rancho 9000 adjustable shocks 4.56 Gearing with E-locker in the back and True trac up front. Teraflex adjustable upper and lower CA's front and back and adjustable track bar to center everything, and drive shafts front and rear.High tuck muffler as well the stocker was taking a beating. Yes stock fenders.
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The Trail Grappler has an inside and outside specific tire mounting to the wheel there is a yellow circle that has to be mounted facing out,the side wall tread lugs are different as well from inboard to outboard,making the tire directional....I guess. Maybe your tires were mounted incorrectly,or there was a bad batch which can happen with anything manufactured . In any case mine run true and straight,no shimmy or shake and are very quiet on road.
That's handy to know.

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