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Old 05-04-2019, 11:12 AM   #781
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That's handy to know.
I'll get a pic. of the tires from the side asap and post it.

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I'll get a pic. of the tires from the side asap and post it.
In my eye, there's a scale to things make make a JK look just right. To big or too small on the tires is subjective, I know, but I've gotta have Mama Bear juuuuust right. I wheel when I can, I prefer rugged camping and fishing, but most of my time is spent on the road. On-road, off-road performance has to be blended for me.

If I go too big on tires, then I have to deal with lift, gearing, drive shaft, ball joints, and on and on. Too small and I limit my effectiveness off-road and, I will admit, my personal preference is that my Jeep look Jeepy... rugged and ready and without wheel well lights or angry bird eyes.

For my '15 JK Rubicon, I think the 285/75 Ridge Grappler is the tire for me, but I'm intrigued by the 35/11.5 size. The 35/12.5 works great for a JKU, but the proportions are just off a little on a JK ... IMO.

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In my eye, there's a scale to things make make a JK look just right. To big or too small on the tires is subjective, I know, but I've gotta have Mama Bear juuuuust right. I wheel when I can, I prefer rugged camping and fishing, but most of my time is spent on the road. On-road, off-road performance has to be blended for me.

If I go too big on tires, then I have to deal with lift, gearing, drive shaft, ball joints, and on and on. Too small and I limit my effectiveness off-road and, I will admit, my personal preference is that my Jeep look Jeepy... rugged and ready and without wheel well lights or angry bird eyes.

For my '15 JK Rubicon, I think the 285/75 Ridge Grappler is the tire for me, but I'm intrigued by the 35/11.5 size. The 35/12.5 works great for a JKU, but the proportions are just off a little on a JK ... IMO.
I agree 100% with your points. My wheeling is rugged camping and chasing trout with the fly rod in small streams and rivers.

I agree that 35 X 12.5 looks to fat on a lifted 2 door I've been waiting for a more proper, proportionately correct, 35 for the 2 door,and I found it in the Trail Grappler 35X11.5 they look dead on rugged and correct,as well narrower tires work better in all off road conditions save very deep snow with layers of ice underneath where you want to "get on top" of the snow and crawl,everything else, narrower puts more PSI on the ground for more grip particularly aired down when you lengthen your tread track.

The Grappler 3X11.5 is very smooth and quiet on road,and I've owned BFG KO2's which is a great tire and quiet as well. I have the 34X10.5 KO2 on my lifted XJ Cherokee. The bit of extra noise on the Grappler is only noticed with the doors off and topless but it isn't crazy loud or anything like annoying.
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Not sure how this would be true. The Trail Grapplers have two different sidewall options based on your preference. It is, most definitely, not a unidirectional tire. A quick google search of “trail Grappler left pull” will show you how often this problem presents itself. I sure wish it wasn’t so, though. Best MT I’ve ever had, minus the pulling me into traffic bit.


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I had these. Fantastic on and off road EXCEPT they pulled left! Swapped one out thinking it was just a single tire causing it, but ended up that 4
Of the 6 total tires I purchased had left radial pull. Bad enough that it would pull me
Into oncoming traffic if I wasn’t careful.

Shame too. LOVED those tires. Running 37x12.5r17 Patagonia’s now.
The Trail Grappler has an inside and outside specific tire mounting to the wheel there is a yellow circle that has to be mounted facing out,the side wall tread lugs are different as well from inboard to outboard,making the tire directional....I guess. Maybe your tires were mounted incorrectly,or there was a bad batch which can happen with anything manufactured . In any case mine run true and straight,no shimmy or shake and are very quiet on road.
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The Trail Grappler has an inside and outside specific tire mounting to the wheel there is a yellow circle that has to be mounted facing out,the side wall tread lugs are different as well from inboard to outboard,making the tire directional....I guess. Maybe your tires were mounted incorrectly,or there was a bad batch which can happen with anything manufactured . In any case mine run true and straight,no shimmy or shake and are very quiet on road.
The yellow dot is to be lined up with the valve stem as it is heavy spot of the tire has nothing to do with which side us pointing out.
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The Trail Grappler has an inside and outside specific tire mounting to the wheel there is a yellow circle that has to be mounted facing out,the side wall tread lugs are different as well from inboard to outboard,making the tire directional....I guess. Maybe your tires were mounted incorrectly,or there was a bad batch which can happen with anything manufactured . In any case mine run true and straight,no shimmy or shake and are very quiet on road.
The yellow dot is to be lined up with the valve stem as it is heavy spot of the wheel and has nothing to do with which side us pointing out.
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The yellow dot is to be lined up with the valve stem as it is heavy spot of the wheel and has nothing to do with which side us pointing out.
Right then, but that dot is always on the side of the tire with the more pronounced side wall lugs,which would have the tire installer putting the tires on with that mark facing out on all tires, at the tire valve stem.It would be odd looking and probably not feel right with tires being mounted willy nilly one with the more aggressive sidewall lug out another with the not so aggressive side out etc. They are somewhat directional,or at least they want them installed with the more pronounced lug out ,unless you install them all with the yellow dot inward,but why would an installer do that,and they all come with that location mark on that side of the tire,not the other. If it didn't matter then they would be on either or side of the tire.
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Right then, but that dot is always on the side of the tire with the more pronounced side wall lugs,which would have the tire installer putting the tires on with that mark facing out on all tires, at the tire valve stem.It would be odd looking and probably not feel right with tires being mounted willy nilly one with the more aggressive sidewall lug out another with the not so aggressive side out etc. They are somewhat directional,or at least they want them installed with the more pronounced lug out ,unless you install them all with the yellow dot inward,but why would an installer do that,and they all come with that location mark on that side of the tire,not the other. If it didn't matter then they would be on either or side of the tire.
I guess you need to tell nitto they are wrong. They say you have a choice of sidewall you want facing out
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Not sure how this would be true. The Trail Grapplers have two different sidewall options based on your preference. It is, most definitely, not a unidirectional tire. A quick google search of “trail Grappler left pull” will show you how often this problem presents itself. I sure wish it wasn’t so, though. Best MT I’ve ever had, minus the pulling me into traffic bit.
Well mine have the more aggressive sidewall lug on one side and the other side is different on the side wall lug. I'm glad I have no problems with pulling,they are a very smooth running tire and quiet,and fantastic off road,as well as looking great in the narrower size 35 on my 2-door. I would highly recommend these to anyone.
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I guess you need to tell nitto they are wrong. They say you have a choice of sidewall you want facing out
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Nope I didn't know that,learn something new everyday. So not directional at all just run them all one side out or the other. When I had mine installed I didn't know about the yellow dot at all . They mounted then yellow dot out at the valve stem,with (obviously) the more aggressive side wall lugs out. I'm not sure why someone would want the less aggressive side out....but oh well to each their own.
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The yellow dot is to be lined up with the valve stem as it is heavy spot of the wheel and has nothing to do with which side us pointing out.
Right then, but that dot is always on the side of the tire with the more pronounced side wall lugs,which would have the tire installer putting the tires on with that mark facing out on all tires, at the tire valve stem.It would be odd looking and probably not feel right with tires being mounted willy nilly one with the more aggressive sidewall lug out another with the not so aggressive side out etc. They are somewhat directional,or at least they want them installed with the more pronounced lug out ,unless you install them all with the yellow dot inward,but why would an installer do that,and they all come with that location mark on that side of the tire,not the other. If it didn't matter then they would be on either or side of the tire.
I was standing right there as the dealer ship offloaded my ridge Grapplers from the truck and they had no such yellow dots anywhere on them. I helped the tech roll them over to the Bay where my Jeep was and he had me point out which sidewall I wanted out.
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I was standing right there as the dealer ship offloaded my ridge Grapplers from the truck and they had no such yellow dots anywhere on them. I helped the tech roll them over to the Bay where my Jeep was and he had me point out which sidewall I wanted out.
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I was standing right there as the dealer ship offloaded my ridge Grapplers from the truck and they had no such yellow dots anywhere on them. I helped the tech roll them over to the Bay where my Jeep was and he had me point out which sidewall I wanted out.
tires can have yellow and red spots but if a tire is perfect it needs neither. Yellow generally is the heavy spot on the tire and red the high spot.

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Send a side view pic. I want to see how those tires look on the 2dr. I'm thinking of those, or the 285/75 in the Ridge Grappler. I wish they had 35/11.5 in the Ridge Grappler.
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At least, for me, that's a better width for the 2dr than 12.5.
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At least, for me, that's a better width for the 2dr than 12.5.

I agree it's exactly what I was looking for. They also work better off road at the narrower size.
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that variation was a RK 2.5 lift. here is what a 2 door with a 285/75-17 and AEV 3.5 will look like.
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those are st maxx coopers in 285/75-17 with 1.5" spidertrax spacers. It worked very well.
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I have the 255/80/17 AT3 on my JLU. Can’t wait to put at least 2” of lift in it.

I like the looks of that... maybe next Jeep.

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those are st maxx coopers in 285/75-17 with 1.5" spidertrax spacers. It worked very well.
And how are you liking the Coopers?

Thanks for the responses - I'm in the process of doing my build.
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I like the looks of that... maybe next Jeep.

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Thanks for the responses - I'm in the process of doing my build.
considering I am on my 4th set I guess pretty well . First set was 285/75-17 on the white 2 door shown and I traded that rig for my recon and put 295/70-17 on it as soon as I got it home from the dealer and they were just a bit shorter than I liked so I swapped them for some 285/75-17's and then my buddy who had just put a pair of new 315's on AEV saltas on his jeep decided on a whim to trade his jeep for a duramax swapped me my tires and rims for his before trading it. If you follow any of my threads you know I have been thru more tires than most and have had cooper at3, many pairs of Toyo at2 and R/T's and BFG KO2's and I really like these ST Maxx's. Would not hesitate to get another set.
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No spacers and have not disconnected or tried to flex. I mainly go on fireroads and light off-road trails. I have not done much to this Jeep or with it. My spine has been having some serious issues.


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Does anybody know if BF Goodrich is going to release KM3's in 255/80/R17? That's the size I run on the KM2's and I'd prefer to stay with it.
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