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Old 06-06-2013, 07:54 PM
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Question about 2013 rubicon

I am looking at a 2013 rubicon and I was just wondering if they all came with the 4.11 gears? The window sticker doesn't say anything about gearing on it. It's not really a deal breaker I just really wanted them.

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If the sticker doesn't state 4.10 then they are probably 3.73 since that is the new standard on the Rubicons. If you are planning on adding 35's in the future you would be happier with the 4.10's.

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I think the most I will do is 33s if that. Out of curiosity is $32000 a decent price for a 13 rubicon with a hard top and the 24r package?
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from what I can tell, having not sat at the dealer order screen and put it in myself

if it's MT the standard is 4.10
if it's AT the 4.10 has an additional cost that should be indicated on the build sheet

you can use an online tool like this one to fill out the options

New 2013 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4WD 2Dr SUV Packages Options & Optional Equipment - IntelliChoice.com

see what they say with the options on it.... 32K otd would be close to invoice if it had a few goodies other than the hard-top (like upgraded radio to nav, connectivity, side airbags, etc) according to the site above
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from what I can tell, having not sat at the dealer order screen and put it in myself

if it's MT the standard is 4.10
if it's AT the 4.10 has an additional cost that should be indicated on the build sheet

you can use an online tool like this one to fill out the options

New 2013 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 4WD 2Dr SUV Packages Options & Optional Equipment - IntelliChoice.com

see what they say with the options on it.... 32K otd would be close to invoice if it had a few goodies other than the hard-top (like upgraded radio to nav, connectivity, side airbags, etc) according to the site above
Yep, you are correct on that one. If you don't have the build sheet, then go by the above. For the 2013 Rubicon 3.73 is standard for the auto and 4.10 is standard for the manual. I have a 2013 Unlimited, Manual, 4.10, Heated Seats, 130N, Painted Hard Top and Fender Flares that I ordered from the factory. I think invoice on mine was 33,800. Might have been just a little higher I got below invoice pricing through work.
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I think the most I will do is 33s if that. Out of curiosity is $32000 a decent price for a 13 rubicon with a hard top and the 24r package?
Do yourself a BIG favor and get the 4.10s. For the price, you'd be insane not to. Im in the minority on this, but given my recent cross country experiences, 3.73s are still to low for 33s. They would be what I would call "barely acceptable."
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Like stated before manuals come with 4.10s and autos it's an upgrade option from 3.73

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I think the most I will do is 33s if that. Out of curiosity is $32000 a decent price for a 13 rubicon with a hard top and the 24r package?
Search tread lightly discount to get 1% below invoice. You should be able to swing that anyways. Just be careful they aren't screwing you on the financing or trade to make it happen. My rubicon with power and a hardtop only was MSRP 32000 and I got it for around 29000.

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Do yourself a BIG favor and get the 4.10s. For the price, you'd be insane not to. Im in the minority on this, but given my recent cross country experiences, 3.73s are still to low for 33s. They would be what I would call "barely acceptable."
I think you ment to say get 3.73, in the first statement, for the rest of the statement to make sense?? Then you would likely be in the forum minority because people want the extra climbing torque. I could also see you saying that you would like even lower gearing than the 4.10s to push the larger than stock tires.

I'm sure you know this, but for noobs.

Low gearing = higher axle ratio number = more torque, climbing power, and acceleration = lower gas mpg, especially over 65mph. = the ability to run a larger tire = Higher engine RPM at a given speed

With my 4.10 gearing and stock rubicon tires, after 65mph you just start to notice the RPMs starting to get a bit high. If your going to be doing a lot of interstate driving, above 70 mph, on the stock 32" wheels, it's something to consider. Try to get a test drive in one with 4.10s if your getting the auto.
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I have the Sahara but have the 3:73 gears and 33" Duratracs. It by no means is a slouch. It has plenty of torque to drive up hills and for daily interstate travel. If I was buying a Rubicon I would get the 4:10 gears only because that is one the main advantages of a Rubicon over a Sahara. Lockers and auto disconnects being the other advantage. If you are making this a daily drive and only plan on doing light trails then a Rubicon might be overkill.

As far as the price goes. Without knowing the other details its hard to say.
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The rubicon has power window and mirrors and a hard top and its automatic and that's about all the options. $32000 is before tt&l, I'm starting think that is a little high
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The rubicon has power window and mirrors and a hard top and its automatic and that's about all the options. $32000 is before tt&l, I'm starting think that is a little high
Yeah. A little high. Assuming black top, black fenders, no navigation radio.

People have strong opinions on gear ratios, as I do. But, I will say that the newer jeeps do better than expected based on what I read. I was a bit surprised how my 4.10 MT with 33s feels/performs in that department. I really enjoy it. Feels like a taller ratio than I expected. Perfect for me, but the 3.73 AT guys seem very happy on 33s. That's good to hear.
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I first looked at a 2013 unlimited sport with the mopar 2 inch lift installed at the dealer and 33 inch nitto tires, they wanted $7000 more because of the lift and tires. He said the lift was $4000 alone.

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