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Old 03-23-2011, 11:04 AM
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Hello everyone, I just bought my first jeep two days ago! Before this I've only ever owned sports cars (350Z, STi, etc.) so I am a total noob about all things jeep. I've got a 2011 Wrangler Sport in black, and I really want to get rid of the stock 16" wheels.

The look I like the most is the Moab's that come stock on other jeeps. The most appealing part to me is the concavity of the rim, and I'd love to buy a used set and powdercoat them black. Which brings me to my question...

After looking online at craigslist, I see a ton of stock jeep wheels for sale that look like Moab's but they don't appear to be concave, and they didn't come off of Sahara or Rubicon jeeps. One said it came off an Unlimited X. Are there two versions of 5 spoke wheels in 17 inch size that look the same from the front, but one set is concave and the other isn't? What do I need to look out for exactly?

A couple of minor questions, what are my other options for a 5 spoke wheel that has the same sort of concavity? And what is the advantage (other than price of tire) to getting such small wheels? I see a lot of people with 15-16 inch wheels, I'd rather go up to 18-19 if I could with the Moab style.

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Really not a quick question at all. There is a lot of nuance to wheels and off road performance, and why people buy different size wheels.

People run 15" wheels so they can air down and have more grip as they have more rubber on the ground. The problem with 15" wheels is they may not clear the calipers, so only some wheels will work. And some wheels will work on one rig, but not another. Cragar soft 8s seems to be a good bet here

16" wheels are good from a cost perspective. You can get wheels and tires in 16" for the cost of tires for 18" or possibly 17" depending on tire. The downside is a much smaller selection of tires for offroad.

17" wheels will have a stiffer sidewall when aired down, and better control, less bounce than 15". There are a lot of tires available in this size.

Whether you prefer the added traction of 15" or better control/less bounce with 17" is a matter of driver preference. Not really a right or wrong answer here.

18" wheels look great; tires are so dang expensive. You can get wheels and tires for 16" and 17" for the cost of 18" tires.

As for the individual wheels, look around, there are endless options. 17" will give a huge selection of wheels and tires. I honestly don't know what a Moab wheel looks like, but there are so many out there

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Since posting I've noticed that there are actually Moab wheels in 16 and 17 sizes. The 16's appear more concave than the 17's from the perspective of the pictures I've seen, but that can be deceiving. It seems like there is a 16x8 size, and a 17x7.5 size. Are there others? Do they have different offsets or backspacing to make one more concave than the other?
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Since posting I've noticed that there are actually Moab wheels in 16 and 17 sizes. The 16's appear more concave than the 17's from the perspective of the pictures I've seen, but that can be deceiving. It seems like there is a 16x8 size, and a 17x7.5 size. Are there others? Do they have different offsets or backspacing to make one more concave than the other?
The degree ofit is based on the "BACKSPACE" in the wheel, which can be specified when ordering NEW WHEELS-

The stock MOABS on 07/11 JK/JKU Rubis have a 6¼" backspace-which is fine for the stock tires and clearance-

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Hello everyone, I just bought my first jeep two days ago! Before this I've only ever owned sports cars (350Z, STi, etc.) so I am a total noob about all things jeep. I've got a 2011 Wrangler Sport in black, and I really want to get rid of the stock 16" wheels.

The look I like the most is the Moab's that come stock on other jeeps. The most appealing part to me is the concavity of the rim, and I'd love to buy a used set and powdercoat them black. Which brings me to my question...

After looking online at craigslist, I see a ton of stock jeep wheels for sale that look like Moab's but they don't appear to be concave, and they didn't come off of Sahara or Rubicon jeeps. One said it came off an Unlimited X. Are there two versions of 5 spoke wheels in 17 inch size that look the same from the front, but one set is concave and the other isn't? What do I need to look out for exactly?

A couple of minor questions, what are my other options for a 5 spoke wheel that has the same sort of concavity? And what is the advantage (other than price of tire) to getting such small wheels? I see a lot of people with 15-16 inch wheels, I'd rather go up to 18-19 if I could with the Moab style.
I'm selling my stock sahara 18" wheels and tires in for sale section...255/70/18...pm me
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Did older models of Moab wheels have less backspacing? Do the 16's have different backspacing than the 17's?

The look of the Mamba MR1 is great, I see it has 4.75" of backspacing.
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Did older models of Moab wheels have less backspacing? Do the 16's have different backspacing than the 17's?

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The look of the Mamba MR1 is great, I see it has 4.75" of backspacing.
The amount of backspace will depend on the TIRE you run and the clearance you need-varies with each mod jeep/fenders/habits !

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Did older models of Moab wheels have less backspacing? Do the 16's have different backspacing than the 17's?

The look of the Mamba MR1 is great, I see it has 4.75" of backspacing.
The 16" Moabs are from TJ Rubicons. The bolt pattern is wrong for a JK. You need adapters to make them fit. Adding adapters would also address the huge BS on them, so you can fit wider tires. The reason they look more concave is due to the smaller diameter...
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Look to the aftermarket and save yourself some long-term grief.
If you ever plan on putting larger tires on your Jeep, get a set of 16" or 17" wheels with 4.5" backspacing. There are tons of wheels to pick from.
Anything OE for the JK will have poor backspacing.

Avoid 18" wheels, especially stockers. Miserable mistake by Jeep.
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Are the Moab looking wheels from all wranglers 07+ the same? As in, if someone posts for sale wheels from an '09 unlimited, or a '10 rubicon, will anything be different about the wheels themselves? Or will it just be tire differences?
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The JK Moabs come in two sizes, 17 and 18"... Other than that, they are the same. Either will fit your JK. Tires will be considerably more expensive for the 18's and you'll have less sidewall... The 17's come stock on Rubicons and not sure what else. 18's are stock on Sahara's.

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