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Old 08-03-2018, 02:50 PM   #2731
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Kind of annoyed i missed the rebate program, so now I’m hangin out for a reasonable “deal” and this Morris looked to be an excellent price considering the gift card. I usually use Quadratec given good experiences in the past. I’m not in a rush yet, as I have yet to buy wheels and tires.

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So had this lift now for a while (roughly 8 months) and it’s been great. Started out with just the lift kit and eventually added the front LCAs to smooth out the ride. One thing that keeps irking me though is the front sway bar - it doesn’t sit parallel and looks like it could use adjustable end links. I know some folks here went that route but doesn’t seem it was a concern for most. I have a 2 door Rubicon with the electric disconnects. Thoughts appreciated!
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Got the front on last night, stopped because I have to work this morning at least.

It's real nice seeing at least 3 inches between the BS and the axle tube. I had some real weak springs out front... '15', but it's a non tow, 2 door, soft top, so that makes sense.
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So had this lift now for a while (roughly 8 months) and it’s been great. Started out with just the lift kit and eventually added the front LCAs to smooth out the ride. One thing that keeps irking me though is the front sway bar - it doesn’t sit parallel and looks like it could use adjustable end links. I know some folks here went that route but doesn’t seem it was a concern for most. I have a 2 door Rubicon with the electric disconnects. Thoughts appreciated!
I put adjustable end links with my kit and my swaybar sits "level".
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So had this lift now for a while (roughly 8 months) and it’s been great. Started out with just the lift kit and eventually added the front LCAs to smooth out the ride. One thing that keeps irking me though is the front sway bar - it doesn’t sit parallel and looks like it could use adjustable end links. I know some folks here went that route but doesn’t seem it was a concern for most. I have a 2 door Rubicon with the electric disconnects. Thoughts appreciated!
Because the front shocks are basically the same length as stock, your axle doesn't move any more than it did before the lift. Your ride height is just at a different point in the shocks travel. You have more up and less down travel than you used to. So, your sway bar is fine. That said, it's yours and if you want some adjustable links, go for it. I like to set my sway bars about 5 degrees above level.
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I just called Morris. The guy I spoke to said that the kit with the 9000's isn't listed on the site because it's a discontinued item. He said they did still have some in stock for $499, but the $150 gift card wasn't available with that one because it was discontinued.

Edit: The part number that I had for the kit from the Rancho website was RS66119BR9. The guy from Morris said he couldn't find that part#. The one he had that was discontinued was RS66109BR9.
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I bought my JKU Rancho kit and Rancho adjustable LCAs from through the forum with Joe Cruz at Morris and the customer service was awesome. Got a good deal on all my parts through them via this forum. Id email him at [email protected] and ask him directly and see what deals are available through the forum discount. You guys are right though it wasnt listed on their site (at least the JKU kit) but they do stock it.


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Because the front shocks are basically the same length as stock, your axle doesn't move any more than it did before the lift. Your ride height is just at a different point in the shocks travel. You have more up and less down travel than you used to. So, your sway bar is fine. That said, it's yours and if you want some adjustable links, go for it. I like to set my sway bars about 5 degrees above level.
Shouldn't the down travel be more or less unaffected? The shock length and mounting points are the same, the only thing that changed was ride height, which is where the "increased"up travel comes from, it would still droop to the exact same place in reference to the frame, will it not? You just have more, previously un-usuable, up travel from ride height.

Really nothing changes up front except ride height, unless you drop in the bumpstop extensions to account for large tires.

I suppose it's all semantics. It sounds like you're talking about up and down travel from ride height and I'm thinking about it in reference to the frame. I'm probably saying the same thing a different way.

Edit: The more I think about it, it really only makes sense to talk about up and down travel in relation to ride height, so that's my bad for being full of it.
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All that said... I have the full lift on, and so far it is glorious. I still have some things to do like re-aiming my headlights, final measurements, tuning the shocks for my roads, and a cautionary alignment.

Everything is so much better though. I should have done this when I installed the skids. Really, I should have done this the day I bought it.
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Just a comment....

I drove a Brand new 2018 JLU Rubicon - Nice Jeep.

As far as ride goes (handling, quality, tracking, etc) My JK with the Rancho lift and Toyo tires blows the JL away.

Now, can the JL be outfitted with the Rancho kit? of course, just sayin' this lift really is very good. My Jeep has 70K on it and still rides/handles better than the brand new and improved (we all know there is debate over the new steering system on the JL, IMO not ready for prime time).
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Shouldn't the down travel be more or less unaffected? The shock length and mounting points are the same, the only thing that changed was ride height, which is where the "increased"up travel comes from, it would still droop to the exact same place in reference to the frame, will it not? You just have more, previously un-usuable, up travel from ride height.

Really nothing changes up front except ride height, unless you drop in the bumpstop extensions to account for large tires.

I suppose it's all semantics. It sounds like you're talking about up and down travel from ride height and I'm thinking about it in reference to the frame. I'm probably saying the same thing a different way.

Edit: The more I think about it, it really only makes sense to talk about of and down travel in relation to ride height, so that's my badd for being full of it.
Yes we're on the same page with your revised thought process. Total travel is the same, full droop is the same, just right height has changed. In turn, that means you have more up travel and less down travel.

Glad you like it, hard to beat for the $$.
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if you raise the ride height by 2"
and your lower and upper shock mounting points is the same …
dosent the resting point of the shocks travelling piston rod also raise 2"?
if that's so ,wouldn't that be 2"less down travel?

does anyone know the compressed height of stock springs and the compressed height of the rancho springs?

im starting to wonder if shock extensions would benefit this lift regardless of bumpstop installation.
the only difference is where you extend the shock
2"lower shock extensions for bumpstops ...
2" upper for no bumpstops??

or am I missing something obvious?
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I plan to get the longer version of the front shock. I want to take some measurements first to see what that might do to my driveshaft/exhaust/skidplate relationship, I'll probably also but in front spring retainers so the bottom of the spring doesn't fall out of the groove, may not be necessary, but it's cheap insurance.

That would net some potential droop, and at that point I'll be re-running my breather hoses.
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if you raise the ride height by 2"
and your lower and upper shock mounting points is the same …
dosent the resting point of the shocks travelling piston rod also raise 2"?
if that's so ,wouldn't that be 2"less down travel?

does anyone know the compressed height of stock springs and the compressed height of the rancho springs?

im starting to wonder if shock extensions would benefit this lift regardless of bumpstop installation.
the only difference is where you extend the shock
2"lower shock extensions for bumpstops ...
2" upper for no bumpstops??

or am I missing something obvious?
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I emailed Joe at Morris earlier and am awaiting a response. It looks like 4wheelparts.com aka 4wd.com is selling this setup on sale for $449.99 today only. No rebates, no egiftcard to buy more stuff. Just a straight up 10% off. Not a bad deal, especially if the vendor will give something incremental to WF members. Food for thought. I want to decide and get this ordered!
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I emailed Joe at Morris earlier and am awaiting a response. It looks like 4wheelparts.com aka 4wd.com is selling this setup on sale for $449.99 today only. No rebates, no egiftcard to buy more stuff. Just a straight up 10% off. Not a bad deal, especially if the vendor will give something incremental to WF members. Food for thought. I want to decide and get this ordered!
I think that sounds like a good deal especially for how good it is....
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Yes we're on the same page with your revised thought process. Total travel is the same, full droop is the same, just right height has changed. In turn, that means you have more up travel and less down travel.

Glad you like it, hard to beat for the $$.
I really like the load capacity and the minor lift, not requiring much to anything on supporting mods.

That really helps someone like me that wheels this thing a lot in a rocky region, and has skids to protect the vulnerable (and expensive) parts. I have bigger plans once I own it outright, so this helps me support what I have done already without needing more.

Ill have to post a pic of my skids after one year, they are definitely earning their keep.

Looking forward to running some trails soon, I can only imagine
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does anyone know the compressed height of stock springs and the compressed height of the rancho springs?

FRONT Extended Collapsed
RS999326 21.75" 14"
Stock 22.75" 14.75"

REAR Extended Collapsed
RS999330 25.75" 16"
Stock 23.25" 15"


Sorry, that's for the shocks. Might be useful anyway.



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Spoke to Joe Cruz at Morris. They do in fact sell the RS66119BR9 kit and its just not on the website for some reason. Either way it ships directly from Rancho. They are doing the $150 gift card on this kit. I am ordering it now.

Now I just need to solidify wheels and tires. Method Roost 17x8.5 with Nitto Ridge Grappler 285/70r17 is what i’m 90% sure on. Should work great with this kit
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FRONT Extended Collapsed
RS999326 21.75" 14"
Stock 22.75" 14.75"

REAR Extended Collapsed
RS999330 25.75" 16"
Stock 23.25" 15"


Sorry, that's for the shocks. Might be useful anyway.




LOL it's an inch less than stock! I should just swap them now. The 2" lift is actually less overall travel, classic. That seems daft to say the least.

Seems odd to limit front travel without serious repercussions for going with the longer model. Maybe that's where the exhaust and DS and all that starts making more issues.
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LOL it's an inch less than stock! I should just swap them now. The 2" lift is actually less overall travel, classic. That seems daft to say the least.

The compressed length of the RS999328 is still less than stock. Seems odd to limit front travel without serious repercussions for going with the longer model. Maybe that's where the exhaust and DS and all that starts making more issues.

Remember this is a "Sport" lift. Given the price point consider what it's really trying to accomplish. It intentionally limits travel to prevent having to do all the other stuff like exhaust spacers, etc. If you're looking for more travel and, frankly, more capability you might want to look some more. If you want a little boost that's better than just adding pucks, somewhat improved capability, and a great ride this is the lift for you.

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I had the wrong model number, I probably should hold off posting until later.

RS999329 being the next longer front shock.

I want a low lift, but I do take the Jeep lots of place where less than stock droop in the front is less than ideal. I was planning on measuring for the RS999328 as an intermediate step, I knew that was a possibility before I installed the lift.

It really doesn't matter, and I'm not trying to argue, but for me, 2" and level, supporting the extra 300# I've installed is worth it, even with minutely less travel out front. It does still seem really odd, even is a "sport" kit. I'm looking for an intermediate step before I replace... most... of the suspension, although, even then, I'm not likely to go very high.

I'm not trying to run Carnage Canyon, but I am trying to go nearly everywhere else in Colorado. And even at stock height... it still made it just fine everywhere I've taken it.
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Some are at the age where there is no need for any extra help with "Droop"....

It is sort of taking care of itself all by itself (or so I hear)

As D-Man said - If someone is looking for a little boost (a realworld 2" lift), a level ride, larger tire and a vastly improved ride .... ALL at a price point rivaling a month of Starbucks visits....this IS the kit.
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if you raise the ride height by 2"
and your lower and upper shock mounting points is the same
dosent the resting point of the shocks travelling piston rod also raise 2"?
if that's so ,wouldn't that be 2"less down travel?

does anyone know the compressed height of stock springs and the compressed height of the rancho springs?

im starting to wonder if shock extensions would benefit this lift regardless of bumpstop installation.
the only difference is where you extend the shock
2"lower shock extensions for bumpstops ...
2" upper for no bumpstops??

or am I missing something obvious?
If you put on the shock extensions without the bump stops you would bottom out the shocks causing likely damage to the seals...
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I had the wrong model number, I probably should hold off posting until later.

RS999329 being the next longer front shock.

I want a low lift, but I do take the Jeep lots of place where less than stock droop in the front is less than ideal. I was planning on measuring for the RS999328 as an intermediate step, I knew that was a possibility before I installed the lift.

It really doesn't matter, and I'm not trying to argue, but for me, 2" and level, supporting the extra 300# I've installed is worth it, even with minutely less travel out front. It does still seem really odd, even is a "sport" kit. I'm looking for an intermediate step before I replace... most... of the suspension, although, even then, I'm not likely to go very high.

I'm not trying to run Carnage Canyon, but I am trying to go nearly everywhere else in Colorado. And even at stock height... it still made it just fine everywhere I've taken it.
The 29's are too long for the front springs in the Rancho kit...
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Kind of annoyed i missed the rebate program, so now Im hangin out for a reasonable deal and this Morris looked to be an excellent price considering the gift card. I usually use Quadratec given good experiences in the past. Im not in a rush yet, as I have yet to buy wheels and tires.

Kind of annoyed I didn't miss the rebate... never got the damn thing.


Better getting a small discount up front from a retailer than never getting anything.



I like rancho products and have several. That said, they need to partner with a rebate company from this century that doesn't screw their hard earned customers. No point in working hard to earn business only to lose future business after the fact.
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What happened to your rebate, I have read several bad accounts. Just no response?
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If you put on the shock extensions without the bump stops you would bottom out the shocks causing likely damage to the seals...
not trying to argue with you ,just trying to rationalize it in my mind .
so if the shock body is at the same location ,to account for the rise in the body height the shock piston is now sitting 2 " higher in that shock body
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not trying to argue with you ,just trying to rationalize it in my mind .
so if the shock body is at the same location ,to account for the rise in the body height the shock piston is now sitting 2 " higher in that shock body
correct?
Yes the piston is 2" higher in the body at ride height and will now be fully collapsed 2" sooner under compression. The 2" bump stops would protect the shock, but without them the shock would bottom out before the stock bump stops would make contact.
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I’m either going to run no bump stops, or the 2” stops and add 2” shock extensions and brake line extensions in the front depending on how the Nitto RG 285/70r17 on 8.5” wide 4.75” backspaced wheels fit in the fenders with the SB disconnected on my JKUR. I don’t want to blow out my fender, and even though I don’t get off-road much, I don’t want to overly restrict travel with the bumpstops alone.

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