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Old 11-19-2019, 01:30 PM
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Recovery with out a recovery points

What do you all use to help recover vehicle with out a recovery points?

The other day I had to winch out a Ford 350 van out of a ditch. Of course the van didn't have any recovery points to hook up my shackles or winch hook. Someone. From a rigging shop brought over a heavy-duty strap with hook on it then ran it trough the plastic front and hooked it in to a slit in the frame. Not sure if this was right or not but it did work.

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I advise them to call a tow truck.
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I advise them to call a tow truck.
For certen reason a tow truck could not get to them and it was not due to being off road either.
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Hard parts ONLY, normally something suspension or drive train related.
Control arms, output shafts etc etc etc
Staping to plastic is how someone gets killed
Normally the one running the winch
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I have yanked off rear bumpers meant for towing and seen others with far more damage. Even with the best of intentions and planning damage can occur. That being said, if the person is someone I don't know and tow truck is not an option, I explain the risks involved. I then let them hook up to their rig and make some recommendations. Frame if possible, wrap a strap around an axle by a control arm or leaf spring.

On the beach I hand them the shovel and then enjoy the look on their face. While it is not good for the "jeeper image" mostly I just drive by. They usually don't know all the risk involved just for them to offer a beer.
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This guy has an amazing series of videos on recoveries in Utah. (He is in the business and has a tow truck, but uses an XJ (stock engine) off road. He discusses the hook ups in a lot of his videos and does NOT use a winch. He use the inertia ropes. But, generally a different recovery than OP had. But his hookups to the rescued vehicle are educational.


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This guy has an amazing series of videos on recoveries in Utah. (He is in the business and has a tow truck, but uses an XJ (stock engine) off road. He discusses the hook ups in a lot of his videos and does NOT use a winch. He use the inertia ropes. But, generally a different recovery than OP had. But his hookups to the rescued vehicle are educational.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-nzB3jhjto
I know Matt and coach his son on the HS MTB team.

I will absolutely not tow someone out who isn't prepared to get themselves out. I have Matt's Winder Towing cards and have handed out several.

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Yes, he is a professional and has the incorporation and insurance to cover it. While we would be willing to help another Jeeper that is part of a group we are with, helping a total stranger who has gotten themselves in a bad situation can turn into a nasty legal fight. It's unfortunate that the world has become that, but it has.
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If you watch Matt, who is a true professional, he uses a series of professional tow truck hooks, they are a kit that the drivers uses that provides hard point hookups, even then with some of the lower plastic fenders you can get damage.
I have winched out several vehicles however I have them hook up themselves with a little guidance and warn of damage potential and all on them, living in the mountains like I do, often will just call the wrecker service for them and let them order a tow. In Colorado, any accident is under the authority of the State Patrol so you also have that, if a simple tow, I just take care of.
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If you watch Matt, who is a true professional, he uses a series of professional tow truck hooks, they are a kit that the drivers uses that provides hard point hookups,
I was looking at that and the snatch strap. Don't think he got those at Harbor Freight.
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You are just asking for things to go wrong recovering vehicles without recovery points- leave those to the professionals.
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You are just asking for things to go wrong recovering vehicles without recovery points- leave those to the professionals.
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Just like swimming pool maintenance, right?
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I was looking at that and the snatch strap. Don't think he got those at Harbor Freight.

No, he didn't. I don't know where he got the hooks, they appear to be standard towing tools. I have seen them on almost all the towing videos done by professional tow truck operators. (He only uses the Jeep out in the sands and out back, for traditional towing he has at least one roll back).

He answered questions about the kinetic rope and gave this reference:
https://yankum.com/python?utm_source...campaign=video
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Don't use this unless you know how:
https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...SABEgJx4fD_BwE

Saw a LEO in a Crown Vic back himself into a ditch while trying a Dukes-of-Hazard maneuver. He had one of these gizmos and I winched him out.
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