Shocks with reservoir, and adjustable - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By Carlton_Banks
Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 08-11-2018, 08:18 AM
Thread Starter
  #1
Jeeper
 
InSiDeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: 24N 46E
Posts: 112
Question Shocks with reservoir, and adjustable

building a budget for this purchase since January

Driving style:
80% long highway travels, overland trails, high speed dirt road travels
20% City

I've tried Rancho 9000 for about 2-3 years, great shocks. they were nice. but didn't survive due to the usage of my jeep.
When i usually drive off-road, I mainly do over-landing on high speed (terrain mostly sand, dirt rd) Problem is that the Rancho 9000 overheat, then efficiency/performance goes down and become all over the place.

I've now AEV 2.5 lift with Bilstein 5100 shocks, I honestly didn't like them, when the jeep is empty, they perform well. but when i load my stuff for the trip, performance goes south.

Here is what I'm looking to buy right now:
- King shocks OEM performance
- FOX 2.5 factory series
- Falcon 3.3
- someone told me about Radflo! anyone tried their shocks?

Not sure about which one I'll go with, but I trust some of you tried the mentioned shocks.

Share with me your comments/experience

__________________
2013 Jeep wrangler Unlimited
RIPP Supercharged, AEV 2.5 DualSport, AEV Front and rear bumper with tire carrier, Pintler wheels, Cooper ST MAXX 33"
InSiDeR is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 08:31 AM   #2
Moderator

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
jadmt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: missoula
Posts: 19,931
I have run the 5100 many times and was happy with them, both on aev 2.5 and rk lifts . I currently run falcon 3.1 and have around 10,000 miles on them and love them. Been on some long road trips pulling a small camper fully loaded down and plenty of off-road and fast dirt road empty and never once have I wished I bought the adjustable ones.

__________________
2018 Gobi Recon unlimited W/Mopar 2" lift coils combined with RK rear coils wedges, TF lower control arms, rear TF monster track bar and rear track bar bracket and Falcon 3.1 shocks, Cooper ST Maxx 315/75-17 on AEV Salta rims, Grabars, RE gas skid tank, mopar head liner, Warn VR10 and Maximus3 winch plate.
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f314/y...i-2192385.html
jadmt is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 08:48 AM   #3
Professional Nap Taker

5-Year WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Blue Baby Sound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Glenpool, OK (Tulsa)
Posts: 13,913
+1 on Falcon. I've had the 3.3 for over a year and about 20k miles, love them. We put them on the wife's Jeep too. Had the FOX 2.0 Resi prior to the Falcon.
__________________
HERS-2018 JK- Gobi- (WOOKIEE) Build Thread
HIS- 2014 JKUR- Copperhead Pearl (BRUTUS) Build Thread
Retired 2016 JKWW- Firecracker Red (MAXIMUS)
Retired 2013 JKUS- White- (THOR)
Blue Baby Sound is offline   Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-11-2018, 09:08 AM   #4
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ny
Posts: 1,682
I ran the 9000's, initially had the red rubi's. I went about 6 months with the 9000's "5K miles". Worst shock experience I ever had. Faded to like having no shocks at all on my two door, just highway driving. I now run the OEM Kings adjustable from Filthy Motor sports for the past 18 months. Not inexpensive, but you will forget the price sting quickly and enjoy not buying a shock ever again for your jeep. Of course not fair to compare the two, because of the price difference. If you are going a $K, might as well go all the way and imo get the best.
deepbluerubi is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 09:13 AM   #5
Jeeper
 
jeepers29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Georgetown, Texas
Posts: 5,878
I am currently looking at the Falcons as well as my Rancho 900's are dead. I personally, did not think the Ranchos lived up to the hype. As far as the Raffles go, a buddy of mine has them on hi FJ and had a lot of grief getting them rebuild under warranty when they started leaking almost immediately after install.
__________________
98 TJ 4i in currie with Currie bars front and rear
2014 JKUR AMP"D,Ace slider,BFG AT/KO's 33's
Ace Tire carrier/ rear bumper,LOD Mid width front bumper

I love my country. That's why I despise the government.
jeepers29 is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 09:15 AM   #6
Supporting Member

5-Year WF Supporting Member
 
TerryC6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Hesperia, CA
Posts: 6,644
Custom built Kings valved for your vehicle and your driving conditions. Not cheap but totally rebuildable and you will have the right shock for the application. It only hurts once.
__________________
Terry

35" Baja MTZ P3's - Level 8 Tracker Pro 5 Wheels - Dynatrac ProGrip Brakes - MetalCloak 2.5" GC Suspension, 6Pak Edition - Griffin Attenuator - Artec Front Axle Armor - Nitro Axle Sleeves - JCR Vanguard Bumpers - Poison Spyder Brawler Rockers & Bombshell Diff Covers - RockHard 4x4 Skid's & Sport Cage - Genesis Dual Battery Kit with G Screen - SPOD - Zeon 10-S - VisionX headlights - Traildash 2 - Morris Mule Trailer
TerryC6 is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 09:22 AM   #7
Jeeper
 
Carlton_Banks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 2,642
When I hear high speed sand and dirt I think a buggy is best for this. If not, coilovers seem to be common in that type of offroading.
gravitywell likes this.
__________________
2019 JLUR Punk'n SJ 4" Milestar 40s
2018 JKU White 4" Frankenlift Milestar 38s
2018 Grand Cherokee Black-Sold
2017 JKU Hyper Green 5.5 RK 1.25 Teraflex Bl Xtreme MT2 40s
2016 JKU Firecracker Red 6" RK/Synergy Yoko Geo MT+ 38s
2015 JKU Black 3.5 RK MXT 37s
Carlton_Banks is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 09:23 AM   #8
Supporting Member

5-Year WF Supporting Member
 
TerryC6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Hesperia, CA
Posts: 6,644
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepers29 View Post
I am currently looking at the Falcons as well as my Rancho 900's are dead. I personally, did not think the Ranchos lived up to the hype. As far as the Raffles go, a buddy of mine has them on hi FJ and had a lot of grief getting them rebuild under warranty when they started leaking almost immediately after install.
I think 9000's are great shocks for a rig that is stock or close to it. But over landing at speed will kill non bypass shock faster than you can blink especially if a lot of it is wash boards.
__________________
Terry

35" Baja MTZ P3's - Level 8 Tracker Pro 5 Wheels - Dynatrac ProGrip Brakes - MetalCloak 2.5" GC Suspension, 6Pak Edition - Griffin Attenuator - Artec Front Axle Armor - Nitro Axle Sleeves - JCR Vanguard Bumpers - Poison Spyder Brawler Rockers & Bombshell Diff Covers - RockHard 4x4 Skid's & Sport Cage - Genesis Dual Battery Kit with G Screen - SPOD - Zeon 10-S - VisionX headlights - Traildash 2 - Morris Mule Trailer
TerryC6 is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 09:29 AM   #9
Jeeper
 
jeepers29's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Georgetown, Texas
Posts: 5,878
Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryC6 View Post
I think 9000's are great shocks for a rig that is stock or close to it. But over landing at speed will kill non bypass shock faster than you can blink especially if a lot of it is wash boards.
WE pull a small tear drops camper, and between that and the wheeling the shocks died an early life. On to falcons, just not sure which ones yet.
__________________
98 TJ 4i in currie with Currie bars front and rear
2014 JKUR AMP"D,Ace slider,BFG AT/KO's 33's
Ace Tire carrier/ rear bumper,LOD Mid width front bumper

I love my country. That's why I despise the government.
jeepers29 is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 09:38 AM   #10
Moderator

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
jadmt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: missoula
Posts: 19,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlton_Banks View Post
When I hear high speed sand and dirt I think a buggy is best for this. If not, coilovers seem to be common in that type of offroading.
We have a couple of dirt roads that cut thru wilderness areas that are 100+ miles long that are unmaintained washboard roads (google lolo motorway and magruder corridor) where you can let it rip. We do those a couple of times a year. Now when I say high speed I am not talking 100+ but up to 50mph or so at times when visibility allows. You are right tho for true high speed stuff you would want a rig that was specifically built for going at break neck speeds.
We have a lot of this type of road where we are limited to 35

__________________
2018 Gobi Recon unlimited W/Mopar 2" lift coils combined with RK rear coils wedges, TF lower control arms, rear TF monster track bar and rear track bar bracket and Falcon 3.1 shocks, Cooper ST Maxx 315/75-17 on AEV Salta rims, Grabars, RE gas skid tank, mopar head liner, Warn VR10 and Maximus3 winch plate.
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f314/y...i-2192385.html
jadmt is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 09:51 AM   #11
Professional Nap Taker

5-Year WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
Blue Baby Sound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Glenpool, OK (Tulsa)
Posts: 13,913
Quote:
Originally Posted by jadmt View Post
We have a couple of dirt roads that cut thru wilderness areas that are 100+ miles long that are unmaintained washboard roads (google lolo motorway and magruder corridor) where you can let it rip. We do those a couple of times a year. Now when I say high speed I am not talking 100+ but up to 50mph or so at times when visibility allows. You are right tho for true high speed stuff you would want a rig that was specifically built for going at break neck speeds.
We have a lot of this type of road where we are limited to 35


Man that looks like fun!!
__________________
HERS-2018 JK- Gobi- (WOOKIEE) Build Thread
HIS- 2014 JKUR- Copperhead Pearl (BRUTUS) Build Thread
Retired 2016 JKWW- Firecracker Red (MAXIMUS)
Retired 2013 JKUS- White- (THOR)
Blue Baby Sound is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 12:42 PM
Thread Starter
  #12
Jeeper
 
InSiDeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: 24N 46E
Posts: 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by jadmt View Post
I have run the 5100 many times and was happy with them, both on aev 2.5 and rk lifts . I currently run falcon 3.1 and have around 10,000 miles on them and love them. Been on some long road trips pulling a small camper fully loaded down and plenty of off-road and fast dirt road empty and never once have I wished I bought the adjustable ones.
That's great! I believe 3.1 is the unadjustable, correct! how is the damping on high speed gravel/dirt road? do they tend to overheat?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Baby Sound View Post
+1 on Falcon. I've had the 3.3 for over a year and about 20k miles, love them. We put them on the wife's Jeep too. Had the FOX 2.0 Resi prior to the Falcon.
3.3 is the king among the Falcon shocks, I like them, they look sturdy. But it worries me the way are installed at the rear, I feel like they're prone to damage than other setups.
__________________
2013 Jeep wrangler Unlimited
RIPP Supercharged, AEV 2.5 DualSport, AEV Front and rear bumper with tire carrier, Pintler wheels, Cooper ST MAXX 33"
InSiDeR is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 12:48 PM
Thread Starter
  #13
Jeeper
 
InSiDeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: 24N 46E
Posts: 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by deepbluerubi View Post
I ran the 9000's, initially had the red rubi's. I went about 6 months with the 9000's "5K miles". Worst shock experience I ever had. Faded to like having no shocks at all on my two door, just highway driving. I now run the OEM Kings adjustable from Filthy Motor sports for the past 18 months. Not inexpensive, but you will forget the price sting quickly and enjoy not buying a shock ever again for your jeep. Of course not fair to compare the two, because of the price difference. If you are going a $K, might as well go all the way and imo get the best.
I totally agree with you, do it once, and do it right!
King's caught my eyes, and I was intrigued by their performance on my friends 70s land cruiser.
Not a lot of jeepers here on WF talk about it though
__________________
2013 Jeep wrangler Unlimited
RIPP Supercharged, AEV 2.5 DualSport, AEV Front and rear bumper with tire carrier, Pintler wheels, Cooper ST MAXX 33"
InSiDeR is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 12:56 PM
Thread Starter
  #14
Jeeper
 
InSiDeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: 24N 46E
Posts: 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeepers29 View Post
I am currently looking at the Falcons as well as my Rancho 900's are dead. I personally, did not think the Ranchos lived up to the hype. As far as the Raffles go, a buddy of mine has them on hi FJ and had a lot of grief getting them rebuild under warranty when they started leaking almost immediately after install.
I have to be fair to Rancho as well, my experience was pleasant up-to a point where it gave its maximum output.
I think Rancho is great start if someone has just started building mild off-road use jk

Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryC6 View Post
It only hurts once.
And if you can't resist it, just enjoy it
__________________
2013 Jeep wrangler Unlimited
RIPP Supercharged, AEV 2.5 DualSport, AEV Front and rear bumper with tire carrier, Pintler wheels, Cooper ST MAXX 33"
InSiDeR is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 01:29 PM
Thread Starter
  #15
Jeeper
 
InSiDeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: 24N 46E
Posts: 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlton_Banks View Post
When I hear high speed sand and dirt I think a buggy is best for this. If not, coilovers seem to be common in that type of offroading.
I live in Saudi Arabia, I cross on frequent basis more 100 miles (see attached map) of pure desert dunes and plain with open endless fields (like riding tides).
To do that, you have to have reliable suspension, and powerful enough engine of course (thank you RIPP!!)

Buggy would be good if you're going to play in a radius of 5-20miles area and return to your camp or whatever.



Quote:
Originally Posted by jadmt View Post
We have a couple of dirt roads that cut thru wilderness areas that are 100+ miles long that are unmaintained washboard roads (google lolo motorway and magruder corridor) where you can let it rip. We do those a couple of times a year. Now when I say high speed I am not talking 100+ but up to 50mph or so at times when visibility allows. You are right tho for true high speed stuff you would want a rig that was specifically built for going at break neck speeds.
We have a lot of this type of road where we are limited to 35

Great terrain you got out there, for my terrain i could go on plainfield between 50-70 MPH
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Untitled.jpg
Views:	43
Size:	51.1 KB
ID:	4085925   Click image for larger version

Name:	8275321765_b4b25f880b_b.jpg
Views:	49
Size:	122.7 KB
ID:	4085927  

Click image for larger version

Name:	mk6097_01.jpg
Views:	50
Size:	11.2 KB
ID:	4085929   Click image for larger version

Name:	mk11209_img_6945_640x480.jpg
Views:	50
Size:	38.2 KB
ID:	4085931  

Click image for larger version

Name:	3515_0.jpg
Views:	56
Size:	154.6 KB
ID:	4085935  
__________________
2013 Jeep wrangler Unlimited
RIPP Supercharged, AEV 2.5 DualSport, AEV Front and rear bumper with tire carrier, Pintler wheels, Cooper ST MAXX 33"
InSiDeR is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 01:37 PM   #16
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ny
Posts: 1,682
Quote:
Originally Posted by InSiDeR View Post
I totally agree with you, do it once, and do it right!
King's caught my eyes, and I was intrigued by their performance on my friends 70s land cruiser.
Not a lot of jeepers here on WF talk about it though

No not popular on here, but other forums speak highly of them. The only negative you will hear is the cost. I like the way they are custom valved to your particular jeep based on weight and usage. Opinions are just that, some people swear by brands, I try the product and I'm totally dissatisfied. Plus some get freebies and discounts others are in awe of videos of young women with grinding/welding sparks flying........... Marketing at it's finest! I prefer a product built and finished well that fits and works as attended. If you plan on keeping the jeep for several years or have plenty of disposable cash it's well worth the cost of the kings. If you want to help control on road sway consider a Hellwig rear sway bar. Now that is my best bang for the buck mod I've done for my suspension. Good luck.
deepbluerubi is offline   Quote
Old 08-11-2018, 02:02 PM   #17
Moderator

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
jadmt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: missoula
Posts: 19,931
Quote:
Originally Posted by InSiDeR View Post
That's great! I believe 3.1 is the unadjustable, correct! how is the damping on high speed gravel/dirt road? do they tend to overheat?



3.3 is the king among the Falcon shocks, I like them, they look sturdy. But it worries me the way are installed at the rear, I feel like they're prone to damage than other setups.
for what I do dampening is fine, on the ripple washboard roads they do not chatter at least going reasonable speeds. They do not overheat at all on 40-50mph washboard roads.

__________________
2018 Gobi Recon unlimited W/Mopar 2" lift coils combined with RK rear coils wedges, TF lower control arms, rear TF monster track bar and rear track bar bracket and Falcon 3.1 shocks, Cooper ST Maxx 315/75-17 on AEV Salta rims, Grabars, RE gas skid tank, mopar head liner, Warn VR10 and Maximus3 winch plate.
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f314/y...i-2192385.html
jadmt is offline   Quote
Reply

Tags
adjustable shocks , aev 2.5 , overland , reservoir , shocks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off






All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Jeep, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC