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Old 02-17-2019, 03:29 PM   #121
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That's very nice, but . . . double-standard: Zambeezy needs to take his own advice a lot more desperately than anyone else in this thread.


By the way, phonier-than-thou social-change agents (such Zambeezy perchance?) won't be as giving as you imagine (except with other peoples' tax $$). Save your commendable sentiments for those who will respond in kind.


Oh bubba gump...not sure you know the meaning of the words you're trying to use.

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There's still no excuse for your hard ass mentality.

I'm a millennial, with 20 years of work experience under my belt.

I'm millennial thats owned two homes he purchased himself.

I'm a millennial that's purchased 4 new vehicles with his own money.

Man, everytime you post, you're trying to be an asshole. It's not necessary, at all.

My dad (Boomer generation) is racist, and he's not afraid to "make jokes." Do you know what his answer is? "That's just who I am."

Both you and he use the same excuse, to validate your shortcomings and social downfalls.

Theres a difference in "That's who I am" and just admitting you have a flaw and trying to correct it.

If you think you're the only person with an opinion, and you have to hardline share it at every turn, perhaps you didn't learn what discretion is.

Also, knock off the generational attacks. It's not accurate, not becoming, and certainly doesn't build any sense of community. Because most of the time, you're incorrect.
Absolutely. OP is a fantastic who needs to put it on ice.

The whole "that's who I am" bit is absolute trash.

I'd share a beer with you though.

OP and his tryhard supporters can piss off

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Okay folks, this thread is okay overall but I see some folks are getting personal. Its one thing to voice ones opinion but we need to keep things generic.

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Okay folks, this thread is okay overall but I see some folks are getting personal. Its one thing to voice ones opinion but we need to keep things generic.

One or the founding principals of Wrangler Forum is to be a PG-13 forum. The forum staff is not here to take away people's rights. As a Moderator, I "moderate" things and keep things moving. If a post or thread needs to be edited or removed for the common good, then that is what will be done. Personally, I'm a big proponent of free speach and even though the 1st Ammendment does not apply here, we try to follow it. (the 1st ammendment forbids the GOVERNMENT from preventing free speach)

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Apologies for the language, I didn't know it crossed the line but now I know.

I absolutely loathe people like OP who use the "that's just the way I am" excuse to be rude and hateful and I am absolutely sick and tired of "friggin Millenials" being the mating call for people like him. I'm adding him to the ignore list and moving on with my life, but I wanted to take the time to point out exactly what fueled my comment.
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For the record, I can't care less who is right and who is wrong. I'm not even involved in any of this fighting and I'm not taking any sides.

I'm pretty thick skinned and feel strong enough to fend off any BS, but that is NOT what I expect when I arrive to be YOUR GUEST at YOUR PLACE under YOUR RULES.
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Remarkable thread, because the OP didn't say anything bad, yet we've seen a flood of bashing, cursing, accusations of racism, etc.


I guess one of the lessons here is that if someone like the OP is falsely accused of not being stylish, then he becomes a practice target, whereby it's ok to falsely accuse him of anything and everything imaginable. Are we surprised when those who invent fictional bad guys have the shabbiest behavior?


Maybe all the bashing is because the "old timers" are reminding us of the indisputable point that bad behavior we see from some in the latest generation is not just a fashion statement. The bad behavior has much greater significance and importance than just style. And the good kids are not the ones who were coddled.


Let the false accusations resume.
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I sat my oldest two kids down a few years ago and had a chat with them about social media and perceptions. They were each getting a cell phone for the first time. We talked about a lot of things but I wanted to impress upon them the perceptions that social media can foster. I realize that their generation and all future generations will be doing more and more faceless communication. Many times, what you are trying to convey can easily be misconstrued by the "offended" party and many times, that is solely because the other person has a chip on their should or a preconceived bias. You need to try to write carefully and without emotion. The moment you add emotion you can also open yourself up to be attacked. If you have an opinion, by all means, share it. Just be prepared to back it up. I also made sure to impress on them the importance of good spelling and grammar. You may not be an idiot but the moment you cannot communicate smartly, everyone will assume that you are a moron and your opinion will carry less weight. No one is perfect but an effort must be made to share intelligently.

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Many times, what you are trying to convey can easily be misconstrued by the "offended" party and many times, that is solely because the other person has a chip on their should or a preconceived bias. You need to try to write carefully and without emotion. The moment you add emotion you can also open yourself up to be attacked. If you have an opinion, by all means, share it. Just be prepared to back it up. I also made sure to impress on them the importance of good spelling and grammar. You may not be an idiot but the moment you cannot communicate smartly, everyone will assume that you are a moron and your opinion will carry less weight. No one is perfect but an effort must be made to share intelligently.

Agreed, the OP tried to strengthen the sense of community with friendly comments. At first it seemed to be working, so then a few people had to break it up. The OP was falsely accused of all sorts of things and viciously denounced.
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Remarkable thread, because the OP didn't say anything bad, yet we've seen a flood of bashing, cursing, accusations of racism, etc.


I guess one of the lessons here is that if someone like the OP is falsely accused of not being stylish, then he becomes a practice target, whereby it's ok to falsely accuse him of anything and everything imaginable. Are we surprised when those who invent fictional bad guys have the shabbiest behavior?


Maybe all the bashing is because the "old timers" are reminding us of the indisputable point that bad behavior we see from some in the latest generation is not just a fashion statement. The bad behavior has much greater significance and importance than just style. And the good kids are not the ones who were coddled.


Let the false accusations resume.
The only mention of the word "racist" or "racism" was by me, in regard to my father. It's incredibly clear it wasn't directed at anyone else.

Practice what you preach, if you're going to lecture about "false accusations."

Don't create drama and conflict, where there is none.
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Some commonalities of all social media websites exist: their intent is to bring people together, spark conversations, and share ideas.

Unfortunately, not every site out there follows through on this intent.

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As with any organization, there will be those that seek control, and will instill their control over the site...
This is counter intuitive to the reason for the site in the first place.
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Itís been a rewarding career... Iíve seen many come and go over the years.

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Agreed, the OP tried to strengthen the sense of community with friendly comments. At first it seemed to be working, so then a few people had to break it up. The OP was falsely accused of all sorts of things and viciously denounced.
That's what I'm sayin. Every thread these days, every conversation, somebody throws the Hitler bomb.

I find a hot shower helps after a thorough vilification.
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That's what I'm sayin. Every thread these days, every conversation, somebody throws the Hitler bomb.
I am confident that @USStrongman is not a Nazi. But, if you believe the MSM, there is a good chance he is a Russian Bot trying to influence the outcome of this thread.
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Every generation thinks the one(s) after them are corrupt, lazy, worthless, disrespectful, (add any other adjective you like).

The difference that we see now is, we used to have to back up our opinions and slurs face-to-face. Now all you need is an internet connection and a keyboard. Big difference.
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I am confident that @USStrongman is not a Nazi. But, if you believe the MSM, there is a good chance he is a Russian Bot trying to influence the outcome of this thread.
There was no collusion!

@gravitywell Ö thanks for taking your daddy anger out on me. It seems fitting.

To everyone else, I bid you a fond farewell.
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The Fireside Shat area of ExPo follows Godwin's Law frequently.
https://www.expeditionportal.com/for...eside-chat.17/
Talk about National Parks, turns political, somebody invokes the specter of Hitler. Ad nauseam.

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Great conversation. Only about 10% replies to views. Maybe we are pissing off the younger set with "old guy speak"? We have the ability to take a kick in the nuts and give one back. Followed by a few pints and talk about women, Jeeps and women. Not necessarily in that order.
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I try to steer discussions to molecular spectroscopy, mass spectroscopy, and chromatography, but nobody ever bites.

But headlights? You'd think the sky was falling....
I'm more of an antibody / antigen binding, photomultiplier / polychromatic measurement, laser scatter measurement kind of guy.

But let's focus more on which oil is superior
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I'm more of an antibody / antigen binding, photomultiplier / polychromatic measurement, laser scatter measurement kind of guy.

But let's focus more on which oil is superior
How about SEM photographs, and XPS and ESCA analysis?
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How about SEM photographs, and XPS and ESCA analysis?
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@gravitywell Ö thanks for taking your daddy anger out on me. It seems fitting.



To everyone else, I bid you a fond farewell.
Theres no anger but thank you for making yet another incorrect assumption.

You both use the same excuses for your faults instead of correcting course. That's the only similarity you have with him.

Everyone has faults, how you handle them determines your character.
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Theres no anger but thank you for making yet another incorrect assumption.

You both use the same excuses for your faults instead of correcting course. That's the only similarity you have with him.

Everyone has faults, how you handle them determines your character.
Just a quick question, do you find the term toxic masculinity a real issue or just 21st century buzzwords? Just trying to gain some perspective here.
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Just a quick question, do you find the term toxic masculinity a real issue or just 21st century buzzwords? Just trying to gain some perspective here.
It's just a SJW buzz-word.

Do you have a real question?
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Do you have a real question?
Can you expound on the acronym, I'm not familiar with it?
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Can you expound on the acronym, I'm not familiar with it?
Can you just get to your point, instead of replying passive aggressively with sarcastic questions?

If you have something to say, say it.

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