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Old 02-03-2015, 04:46 PM
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Stuck in the past?

i'm 18. almost 19...
The day i turned 16...started with a 2003 wrangler x. 5 speed. loved it, handed down from my dad. Everywhere we want everyone loved the fact it was a manual..or we'd see everyone with a manual..

now im 18. just got my 2015 JKU!!! (still excited) 6 speed of course, and now im faced with everyone asking "why didnt you get an automatic?"

Did i miss something or are manual jeeps being pushed away?

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Old 02-03-2015, 04:58 PM   #2
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I bought a manual myself, I drive a lot of miles in my company truck and wanted something different to drive.

IMO, the popularity of the Jeep among soccer moms and the likes have created a lot higher demand for automatics.

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And the newer automatic they offer is way better than previous ones. Half way decent even.
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Half way decent even.
Like many things on the wrangler, a 5 speed auto is archaic compared to other autos on the market but that's a lot of what we love about our jeeps
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I guess I'm one of the "likes" as Red goat stated...Sorry dude, not a soccer mom...Just after years of shifting including Harley's, it was just nice with the 5 speed auto I got on my new 2012 JKU...Just got tired of going thru the gears on the same daily routine for work for 36 years...Now I put it in drive, and go...I do use the new auto shift when it's bad weather, put it down to the lower gears when I don't want it to shift..I must say, it's pretty nice.. Nothing wrong with the manual, but my preference this time was D for Drive auto....
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Tom Sheppard called the current 5 speed auto in the Wranglers his favorite, didn't he? Even from his Mercedes days I think it's been his favorite. That's a pretty strong endorsement, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the strongest automatic transmission the Wrangler ever gets. I still got the manual though, it's all personal preference, as others have indicated :-)
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You know how to drive a manual, you have a new JK a with a manual and you're excited about the manual. That is all that should matter to you.
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i'm 18. almost 19...
The day i turned 16...started with a 2003 wrangler x. 5 speed. loved it, handed down from my dad. Everywhere we want everyone loved the fact it was a manual..or we'd see everyone with a manual..

now im 18. just got my 2015 JKU!!! (still excited) 6 speed of course, and now im faced with everyone asking "why didnt you get an automatic?"

Did i miss something or are manual jeeps being pushed away?
Forgive me, if I hate you a little for getting a new jeep at 18....
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My wife's Wrangler has the Auto Transmission. I like it and heard some where its a Mercedes Transmission. After driving a F350 manual transmission pick up truck for the last 12 years, I needed a break from all the foot action. Got tired of stop and go traffic and all the clutch action and depending how long your stuck in traffic that was a lot of wear on my hip. The truck had a dual mass clutch with a very stiff pedal which required more leg force then any standard transmission I have ever owned. Almost every vehicle I have owned since I got my drivers licence in early 70's have had standard transmissions. I guess I was ready for a change. Its a personal choice and I would not care what others think of my Jeep and how I built it and ordered it or chose it off the dealer lot. Congrats on your new Wrangler. Good choice.
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and now im faced with everyone asking "why didnt you get an automatic?" Did i miss something or are manual jeeps being pushed away?
You didn't miss anything. Everyone who asks that question is someone who, if the knew how to work a manual transmission, would want to drive your car. It's the sound of unrequited envy.

Did you buy it at Hillview?
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I just tell them that I had it made that way for me. If they ask why I tell them that I happen to prefer a manual. If they ask again I simply say "you won't understand" and walk away.

Truth is I find it a lot more fun to drive, even as my DD, than an automatic. I've always preferred a manual, every new vehicle I've bought has been one. Truth is I don't think I could tell anyone any logical reason why I prefer a manual, I just do.
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Forgive me, if I hate you a little for getting a new jeep at 18....
Well, totaled my old car, lucky to be alive. and got a good job so im so thankfull and still excited for my new JKU!!!!
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LOVEEEEEEE

the feedback this has gotten. Its obviously personal preference, but like i said i was out of the jeep life for a bit. so i totally missed the beauty of the new auto transmission....
but it appears this is basically me being a young 18. I havent worked for 30+ years driving a manual everywhere. so im sure ill be in your shoes.... but for now. not even close
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You didn't miss anything. Everyone who asks that question is someone who, if the knew how to work a manual transmission, would want to drive your car. It's the sound of unrequited envy.

Did you buy it at Hillview?
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and no, jim shorkies in north huntington. theyre so amazing there.
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You know how to drive a manual, you have a new JK a with a manual and you're excited about the manual. That is all that should matter to you.
Just starting a friendly controversial talk is all
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and no, jim shorkies in north huntington. theyre so amazing there.
That's where I bought mine at. Second time I bought from them. Good dealer. I haven't had any service there though.
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That's where I bought mine at. Second time I bought from them. Good dealer. I haven't had any service there though.
The 03 TJ i mentioned was where my dad got it from. (Shorkies) and said theyre awesome and service is good too. So we were excited to see shorkies had a jeep that caught my eye
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See my signature. My first two Jeeps were manual and I loved them both. The 94 YJ, my wife couldn't drive because she didn't know how to. I tried to teach her but it didn't work. So....now at 54 years old I figured that it was time for an auto so my wife could drive it if she wanted to. Gotta say, I love the auto just as much as the old manuals. Make sure you enjoy your new Jeep to the fullest and drive safe!!
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Just got a new 15 Willys 2-door. Ordered it special with the 6-speed manual, hard top, no electric windows or locks. I got the manual because it's more fun, at least for me, and the vehicle is for fun so...... I have caught some static from folks about not getting the automatic. Who cares, I didn't buy it for them.
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Manuals are all being phased out. It's a symptom of the fact that America consists mainly of extremely lazy people who need everything to be easy and automated. In Europe, at least the countries I've been to you see a lot of manuals. E Class mercedes taxi cabs running manual etc. They still like to actually drive over there. Americans see their cars simply as a way to move them between fast food joints so they can stuff their fat lazy American a$$es full of grease.

I go out of my way to get stick shifts. I just bought a 2015 JKR and had to drive over an hour and a half away to one of only 3 dealerships within 75 miles of my house that had a 2 door Rubi in manual. My previous vehicle was a Nissan Frontier Pro4x and I had to make them source one for me and truck it in. They tried to offer me the higher trim level for the same price to avoid this, but again it was an auto and I have no interest in "driving" an automatic car.......the only exception for me is if I have a high end luxe sedan like an S Class or something.
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Like many things on the wrangler, a 5 speed auto is archaic compared to other autos on the market but that's a lot of what we love about our jeeps
Modern Autos with 7 or 9 speeds are not good, they're simply a way to meet EPA gas mileage mandates. It forces the car to almost always be in something like an overdrive gear. It's not better for performance, only gas. More parts to break too.
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Depends on what you do with your jeep. If you do water crossings or deep mud then you want the auto.

If you depress the clutch whose the transmission is submerged in a manual then the breether will open and water or mud will go into your gearbox. After that things become expensive rather quickly.

The breethers in the auto transmission go through through straws that lift them higher up. Folks that do water often will extend the tubes to get them even higher.

Unfortunately the manual transmission won't work with the breether straw trick due to the shape and location of how it works.
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Depends on what you do with your jeep. If you do water crossings or deep mud then you want the auto. If you depress the clutch whose the transmission is submerged in a manual then the breether will open and water or mud will go into your gearbox. After that things become expensive rather quickly. The breethers in the auto transmission go through through straws that lift them higher up. Folks that do water often will extend the tubes to get them even higher. Unfortunately the manual transmission won't work with the breether straw trick due to the shape and location of how it works.
water and mud will not get in your gear box. Will contaminate the clutch but not he gear box.
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and no, jim shorkies in north huntington. theyre so amazing there.
We looked at Shorkies but we live pretty close to Hillview and they've done really well for us over the years.

Actually, one of their service managers is a neighbor and good friend. When it's time for service we just give him the keys and he takes it to work instead of his own car. Pretty darned convenient.

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