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Old 11-17-2012, 11:18 AM
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Stupid Car Wash (Rear license plate bracket question)

So after my Jeep was covered in Road grime from the past few weeks, yesterday I decided to get my Jeep washed. I took it to the car wash close by to my work (I've taken it there several times before). Yesterday was unique because as the roller brush went around the back, it decided to catch on and destroy the license plate holder in the back. The Car Wash manager apologized and was quick to say he'd get me another bracket.

Just now I actually had time to assess it, and I saw a problem. Last week I installed an Expedition One rear bumper with the integrated tire carrier. That bumper is now covering the bolts to the bottom of the tire bracket. I love the bumper but it was a pain in the ass to install! I really don't want to spend thanksgiving taking off and putting on the bumper again.

Is there any aftermarket options for the license plate holder on the JK? I know on the TJs there was a couple of options that may just be able to mount on the the two little bolts where it's accessable?

Also would the Stock license plate bracket be able to hold on with just the two bolts?

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I had one car wash refuse to take my Jeep because it was tearing off license plate brackets. Thanks guys.

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Ya, the stock bracket is a poor design and looks like it was an after thought.
I bought a bracket made by Warrior Products, for the spare tire. It is lighted and was $80 from Q-tech ($63 without the brake light). I cut out a piece of plastic to cover the hole that remained.

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Old 11-17-2012, 01:33 PM   #4
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simple only go in the touchless carwashs, they clean better anyways
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Old 11-18-2012, 07:11 AM   #5
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Rock hard sells on as does PS, believe they are all the same. Have lights for the Lic plate and LED's for the third break like. Easy to install and connect into the wiring harness. Mine was a awhile ago but needed a soldering iron to install. OH, get the plug for where the old Lic plate holder was. Believe they are sold separately. You can color match them to your jeep if you wish.
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i agree PS delete panel and rock hard license plate bracket.
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Old 11-18-2012, 09:58 AM   #7
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Warrior Products makes a few different styles of license plate brackets for the JK.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:06 AM   #8
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Would you wash your jeep with sand paper? Next time you go through a car wash look at the dirt on the brushes. If you look at the paint on a car that uses a car wash you will see the circle scratches from the car wash.
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Old 11-18-2012, 11:01 AM   #9
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Whats with the crooked license plates?
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Would you wash your jeep with sand paper? Next time you go through a car wash look at the dirt on the brushes. If you look at the paint on a car that uses a car wash you will see the circle scratches from the car wash.

No friggen kidding. Bristle brush carwashes are the worst. I would rather have my Jeep dirty than destroy the paint. I only use the high presure touchless washes.

Long time ago I went to a fund raiser car wash. I watched in horror as a high school girl dropped her wash mit on the asphalt then went directly back to my paint with it. Never again, I always wash my own vehicles now.
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License plate holder delete cover/plug:


Mopar part # 55397112AA

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http://www.moparsupercenter.com/jeep...5397112aa.html

Poison spyder:

http://shop.poisonspyder.com/Jeep-JK.../17-04-112.htm

$20
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I went with the $10 Mopar one myself when I did the delete/move project.

I then painted it with some Commando Green paint to make it match.



I then bought some LED bolt lights that shine down on the license plate and they also have a rear facing red light that I wired to the brake lights.
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Went thru the car wash today for first time and it bent my front licence plate forward
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Guys heads up....I use a local washman car wash here and have never had a problem with the licence plate/spare tire setup from warrior.

However, last week I went to a different washman (same company, different location) and my actual license plate in the rear was bent on one side. So they must have different machines, and this one doesn't get along with my rear plate.

If your nut is loose enough, I would pull it off before sending it through.

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I took my 2013 through a car wash one day after we had really bad dust storms. When I got home I noticed that the rear license plate holder was messed up and the front license plate was bent down. And, when going through the drying portion, I thought my hood was going to be permanently dented from the force of the air. How thin are the hoods?
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I was able to fix mine, the front just pulled out from the tab slot on the back. Appreciate the offer, though.
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If your nut is loose enough, I would pull it off before sending it through.

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Taken out of context, this statement made the Beavis in me snicker.

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I don't know if it is just me but I go to automatic car washes and see signs that say "Not responsible for " this, that and the other "broken off your car" then look at all the stuff attached to the outside of my vehicles and decide not to use it.

For a quick and easy wash without concern to quality I hand spray. I have also used the foam brushes though it really isn't recommended because you don't know what kind of grit is in those things that will scratch your paint. If I really want to get personal with my Jeep, I hand wash in the driveway. In all these ways I do it myself and I have never had a problem with anything getting mangled or pulled off my vehicles.
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Agree joeuncool. I normally hand wash, but I was in a hurry to run some errands and made a hasty decision to stop at the automatic car wash. I won't do that ever again.
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Fellow Jeepers I have been in the Car Wash business for 46 years; owned and operated full service tunnels, exterior express tunnels, and still own 5 coin operated car washes.

My new Jeep (below) has been through an exterior express 3 times since I bought it last month.

Before that I had an 08 JKU (green) and it has been through an exterior wash at least 100 times. (My son owns the exterior expresses so I can them for "free" The bumper and winch was on the old jeep and I just transferred it to the new one. The only thing that happens is the wrap brushes will turn 1 of the headlights left as it goes through because it needs tightening.

Brushes used in car washes are not the old plastic brushes of the early days! They now use cloth and it works very well. If your "favorite" conveyor car wash is loading your vehicle with soap at the entrance chances are you'll get a good car wash without wripping anything off.

Disclaimers at the tunnel washes are there those (like us) who hang stuff all over our vehicles. However our additions are bolted, welded etc and it's going to do more damage to the equipment than our jeep! This disclaimer is meant primarily for the standard vehicle. Not many jeeps are washed in this type of car wash, but I do because I'm too old to be washing my own equipment!

Self Serve: The Instruction signage says "Check Brush before using) If you're going to use the foaming brush (and most everybody does), then before using it you should take a look at it, spray it with high pressure soap which will clean the brush if there is any residue on it. Then rotate the switch to "brush" soap will come out of the brush and it will work fine. We use a brush that is built with "hog hair"! They are the best in the industry and should not do anything but help clean the Jeep. Do not use them in the wheel wells, engine compartment; It is meant just for the outside "body" of your Jeep.

The other thing that I would mention is that when your done, clean up your mess if you've left mud, use the high pressure hose to wash it toward the center of the bay so the next person doesn't have to walk in your mess.

In my locations, we welcome everybody, Jeep customers included. All that we ask is respect our business and keep in mind that somebody else will go in there after you to wash their vehicle.

For those who don't like either of those ideas, then the touchless is your bag. They will work well in knocking off the chunks, but will not clean your vehicle with just high pressure chemical. There will still be a film on the vehicle if you look at it carefully.

You can tell if it's a well run operation by the cleanliness of the location as you look at it. I'm sure that there are some fly by nights out there but we hit our self-serves a minimum of 3 times a day to check on equipment, garbage and cleaning up the bays and make sure everything is working properly.

I hope this will give you an understanding of the various types of commercial car wash business.

There is an older article in the form that I wrote a few years ago going into the wash business a little deeper. If you do a search it should still be there.


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Is that billet or bright silver? It looks so shiny, I think I need to go wash mine now..
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Is that billet or bright silver? It looks so shiny, I think I need to go wash mine now..
Build sheet sez "Billet Silver Metallic Clear coat"!

We're driving it to the cabin today for the week-end. 7' of snow on the ground with 20% chance of more snow predicted.
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It's just me, and I know I am a bit particular (OCD) but I own 3 black Harleys and now a Black JKUR.

I use a pressure washer at home with a high pressure soap injector, and just softened tap water. Get the grime off. Then a bubble bath with a microfiber towel and my hands. Back to the pressure washer to high pressure rinse.

About every other time I wash, I put on a short wand, and crawl under the vehicle to get all the nooks and crannies clean.

Next I have a 100 gallon tank that I store softened, RO'ed and then DI'ed water in. I have a small pressure washer attached to it...and use it to make the water spots go away.

During the winter, I do about the same thing at the DIY wash bay...

I did however take my Jeep through a touchless wash bay the other day, and since I have the Mopar Mud Flaps on, I will never do it again. My rock cameras allow me to see the flaps as the "robot" went past them...holy wow wobble batman...'bout ripped them off...

Just a heads up on the flaps...they are not very firm, and if they rip off it is going to be at the expense of the inner fender liner...
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Very thin. My hood slipped off the metal support bar while I was installing my hood protector. I have a small blemish on my new hood already from it. Looks like a blister. So pissed. As for car washes, NEVER take a car to the automated brush washes. Always go to the high pressure do it yourself. The touchless are okay too, but some of the chemicals strip away wax and cause other issues. For you guys who want to keep your black Jeeps looking new, avoiding brush washes is essential.
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It's just me, and I know I am a bit particular (OCD) but I own 3 black Harleys and now a Black JKUR.

I use a pressure washer at home with a high pressure soap injector, and just softened tap water. Get the grime off. Then a bubble bath with a microfiber towel and my hands. Back to the pressure washer to high pressure rinse.

About every other time I wash, I put on a short wand, and crawl under the vehicle to get all the nooks and crannies clean.

Next I have a 100 gallon tank that I store softened, RO'ed and then DI'ed water in. I have a small pressure washer attached to it...and use it to make the water spots go away.

During the winter, I do about the same thing at the DIY wash bay...

I did however take my Jeep through a touchless wash bay the other day, and since I have the Mopar Mud Flaps on, I will never do it again. My rock cameras allow me to see the flaps as the "robot" went past them...holy wow wobble batman...'bout ripped them off...

Just a heads up on the flaps...they are not very firm, and if they rip off it is going to be at the expense of the inner fender liner...
RoadGlide, I understand your OCD and especially with motorcycles. They require a lot of tender care! When you are finished with all the attention you give your bikes, do you use any lubricants after you have done this?

The reason I ask is that RO & DI is considered very aggressive. We use RO in all our locations (Spot free rinse) and it has to be stored in either plastic or stainless steel containers & piping. RO is near zero TDS (total dissolved solids), and if you were running that in a metal supply line to anywhere it would eat the metal pipe up (except stainless or plastics!) If it were stored in a steel container, drawn out of and replenished the barrel would be eaten up over a short period of time (months). If you were just storing it in a metal container it would lose its purity & aggressiveness! That's what the term "aggressive" means for us in the business of washing cars.

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