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Old 08-09-2017, 10:59 AM
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TeraFlex Performance Leveling Kit & Tire size / Towing

I have a new 2017 JKU, and looking for some assistance. Been reading a lot about lifts on the forum, and just trying to lock down some final questions before pulling the trigger.

After considering a 3" DBS lift and 33" wheels/tires, I am trying to change direction now, and go TF Performance Level Kit. This would allow me to keep my nice stock rims (Big Bear model), and the BFG All Terrains that came on it. I eventually want to go to 285/70/R17 BFG ATs.

Couple of questions:


Q1: I have stock rims (Big Bear model), and have 265/70/R17 tires, but will want 285/70/R17 tires real quick. Can I run stiok rims with either of those tires on the TF Perf Leveling Kit without issue, or any other parts or adjustments needed????

Q2: I have a small tear drop trailer, 1100lbs, and 100ls tongue weight. I was originally worried about a leveling kit as it might sag in rear once trailer is attached. I am hoping the coils on the Performance Leveling Kit will keep it from sagging so much, and I'd be OK. Hoping for some opinions.

Thanks so much in advance, I am hoping you can help with some final suspension setup questions!!!

FYI, I was going to go with a 3" DBD lift and 33s, but didn't like buying new wheels/tires when we like what we got stock, and didn't want to go with wheel spacers either.

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I have a new 2017 JKU, and looking for some assistance. Been reading a lot about lifts on the forum, and just trying to lock down some final questions before pulling the trigger.

After considering a 3" DBS lift and 33" wheels/tires, I am trying to change direction now, and go TF Performance Level Kit. This would allow me to keep my nice stock rims (Big Bear model), and the BFG All Terrains that came on it. I eventually want to go to 285/70/R17 BFG ATs.

Couple of questions:


Q1: I have stock rims (Big Bear model), and have 265/70/R17 tires, but will want 285/70/R17 tires real quick. Can I run stiok rims with either of those tires on the TF Perf Leveling Kit without issue, or any other parts or adjustments needed????

Q2: I have a small tear drop trailer, 1100lbs, and 100ls tongue weight. I was originally worried about a leveling kit as it might sag in rear once trailer is attached. I am hoping the coils on the Performance Leveling Kit will keep it from sagging so much, and I'd be OK. Hoping for some opinions.

Thanks so much in advance, I am hoping you can help with some final suspension setup questions!!!

FYI, I was going to go with a 3" DBD lift and 33s, but didn't like buying new wheels/tires when we like what we got stock, and didn't want to go with wheel spacers either.
With a 285/70/17, you will most likely want to run a set of 1.25"-1.5"spacers (SpiderTrax, G2, Teraflex, etc) with your stock wheels. If you flat out don't want to run spacers, then you can add some washers to your steering stops and trim/remove your front airdam (if needed).

Depending on if you offroad or not, even with the leveling kit, you may still get some fender contact when disconnected and fully flexed. The picture below is of my old JKU with TF spacer leveling kit, 285/75/16s (same size as 285/70/17), and 16x8.5 wheels with 4.5" backspace.



For more information regarding tire fitment on stock JKs, check out my post (wow, 5.5 years old now) on the subject:
https://www.wranglerforum.com/f27/lar...er-142837.html

Sorry, I can't be of much assistance with the towing related question. I would imagine that the performance version of the leveling kit would handle it better than the spacer version.

FWIW, I also have a '17 Big Bear and plan to run 315/70/17s on the stock wheels with 1.5" spacers.

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Old 08-09-2017, 11:37 AM
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We're on the right path!! Since I don't want to drop the stock rims (like 'em and aftermarket wheel/tires = $$$), I had to abandon plans to go with the BDS 3" due to the need for wheel spacers. But, in that case, it was the rear sway bar would rub without wheel spacers.

But, with the TF, and your comments, I am thinking it's more a run issue, especially when flexing/articulation. I will be offroading, but not the big flex stuff. I'd be surprised if I ever remove the sway bar disconnect

So, if it's just rub issue, and I don't plan to flex big time, sounds like I might be goo to go? keep posting the little things like trimming, I may have to consider that.

Thanks a bunch!
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We're on the right path!! Since I don't want to drop the stock rims (like 'em and aftermarket wheel/tires = $$$), I had to abandon plans to go with the BDS 3" due to the need for wheel spacers. But, in that case, it was the rear sway bar would rub without wheel spacers.

But, with the TF, and your comments, I am thinking it's more a run issue, especially when flexing/articulation. I will be offroading, but not the big flex stuff. I'd be surprised if I ever remove the sway bar disconnect

So, if it's just rub issue, and I don't plan to flex big time, sounds like I might be goo to go? keep posting the little things like trimming, I may have to consider that.

Thanks a bunch!


Hey man, thought I'd drop in and throw you an offer. I bought and installed the TF Performance Leveling Kit and Bilstein 5100s and purchased 4x Spidertrax 1.5" wheel spacers as I originally planned to do EXACTLY what you are but decided to go a different route and got new wheels and a little larger than 285 (305/70) tire. Fast forward 3-4 months and I'm also swapping out my TF leveling kit and bilstein 5100 shocks for the S/T3 and Falcons. There's max 3000 miles on the lift and shocks (installed in April) and the wheel spacers are still brand new in box as is an AEV Geometry Correction Kit and 4x .5" TF spacers.

The leg worked involved in finding a buyer interested in NYC is more than I'm willing to put in, I'm past the return window for the spacers, and the 2 Jeep shops anywhere near me aren't interested. I'll sell you any of that stuff for 50% off the best prices you can find +shipping

I will caution you though, you're probably going to get the bug too and want to upgrade!


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That's a nice offer! Still trying to decide on this setup, but may take you up on that.

I totally get the bug thing, and here's why it won't happen anytime soon.

My master plan is to live in Utah, some of the best Jeeping around (and family lives in Vegas). I've spent many years in Utah ATVing, so I've been wanting to convert to living there with a nice Jeep setup properly for that area. But, I live in TX (DFW), and I have to drive good distances to camp and jeep, and even then, mostly forest roads and light trails, unfortunately. I simply won't use a nice lifted jeep enough to warrant the expense and related maintenance of a lifted jeep. Very sad, but is what it is. I'd rather have good setup for highways and towing our tear drop trailer, and still be able to enjoy trails and streams.

I'll get back with you on that offer!

Still seeking advice on the setup with 285/70/17s. Been reading the link supplied by 4Fit.
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That's a nice offer! Still trying to decide on this setup, but may take you up on that.

I totally get the bug thing, and here's why it won't happen anytime soon.

My master plan is to live in Utah, some of the best Jeeping around (and family lives in Vegas). I've spent many years in Utah ATVing, so I've been wanting to convert to living there with a nice Jeep setup properly for that area. But, I live in TX (DFW), and I have to drive good distances to camp and jeep, and even then, mostly forest roads and light trails, unfortunately. I simply won't use a nice lifted jeep enough to warrant the expense and related maintenance of a lifted jeep. Very sad, but is what it is. I'd rather have good setup for highways and towing our tear drop trailer, and still be able to enjoy trails and streams.

I'll get back with you on that offer!

Still seeking advice on the setup with 285/70/17s. Been reading the link supplied by 4Fit.


Check my thread history, I had posts on the exact same stuff and did this research just a few months ago. You can 100% run 285s on your stock rims but will more than likely need spacers. In my research I ran into a handful of guys who had no lift, no mods except the 285 tires and (allegedly) didn't didn't rub or need to cut, but the lions share needed wheel spacers or had to cut. To be able to articulate fully you'll either need a leveling kit or run larger bump stops. The TF leveling kit, as well as pretty much all lifts, assume you have a fully built Jeep. So winch, armor, etc. that's why if you have a bone stock Jeep and throw on a 2.5" kit you'll net near 3. Good luck man!


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Looking at the part description for the RX Performance Leveling Kit on amazon, it says:

"Aftermarket wheels with 4.5 backspacing or less are required"

Now, I've read enough to think that's not really the case when running 265/70/17s on my stock Big Bear rims, but I also need the help of folks here to know I am going to be able to run this without issue. Should I be cautious about the warning above?
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Check my thread history, I had posts on the exact same stuff and did this research just a few months ago. You can 100% run 285s on your stock rims but will more than likely need spacers. In my research I ran into a handful of guys who had no lift, no mods except the 285 tires and (allegedly) didn't didn't rub or need to cut, but the lions share needed wheel spacers or had to cut. To be able to articulate fully you'll either need a leveling kit or run larger bump stops. The TF leveling kit, as well as pretty much all lifts, assume you have a fully built Jeep. So winch, armor, etc. that's why if you have a bone stock Jeep and throw on a 2.5" kit you'll net near 3. Good luck man!


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Thanks, much appreciated. Off to read your thread now. Wish this wasn't so confusing for us newbies
I think it comes down to how much true jeeping (articulation) I'll be doing, and I don't see it being that much over the next several years.

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