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Old 11-11-2014, 08:01 AM
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Sick of the JK's suspect handling lifted or stock ? Introducing the Griffin and and HD Griffin AtTenuator from SteerSmarts.

Make your JK's steering like a cars and safer at higher speeds. Trust me IT WORKS !!!

Griffin installs on the stock drag link or new Yeti 26 mm top mount drag link.

GriffinHD only installs on HD Stock- under knuckle or flipped Yeti drag links.

http://steersmarts.com/ Install of Griffin by member speedgun https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/st...l-1685498.html

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Wow. Some thought went into that one. If it were half the price, I'd give it a try.

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But would it replace the need for a steering stabilizer?
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But would it replace the need for a steering stabilizer?
Good question. Kinda what I was thinking. Not a replacement though.

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It’s a little different from the stabilizers and dampers of the past. We have a simulator product on the short wheel base Chevy trucks that is built into the relay rod and really helps out on quick lane maneuvers and trailing loads. There are about 300,000 of these GM trucks on the road with our relay rods installed.

I would try it out if I wasn't running a aftermarket drag link.
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Interesting , it shows in video stock SS in place also. Wonder if there would be any clearance issues with other parts when off road ?
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It is an interesting device but I don't believe it is a full replacement for the SS. The attenuator performs more of a bushing like function absorbing slow amplitude higher frequency movement where as the SS absorbs lower frequency and higher amplitude movement on the drag link.

It probably does provide car-like smooth steering if that is what you are looking for. I wouldn't be surprised if some owners buy it to mask poor steering geometry.
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It is an interesting device but I don't believe it is a full replacement for the SS. The attenuator performs more of a bushing like function absorbing slow amplitude higher frequency movement where as the SS absorbs lower frequency and higher amplitude movement on the drag link. It probably does provide car-like smooth steering if that is what you are looking for. I wouldn't be surprised if some owners buy it to mask poor steering geometry.
Why not .. Before long, Dealerships will be using Attenuators for A DW fix
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Why not .. Before long, Dealerships will be using Attenuators for A DW fix
That is exactly my fear!
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Interesting concept..

D/W is simply Newton's Laws in action.

Replying to Newton's Laws of Motion with 'direct' dampening (think-putting a rubber gasket between a ball in a 'Newtons Cradle') seems as good, if not better, a remedy as any other.

If it works, while still not a 'cure', it sure would be a decent vaccine..
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Interesting concept.. D/W is simply Newton's Laws in action. Replying to Newton's Laws of Motion with 'direct' dampening (think-putting a rubber gasket between a ball in a 'Newtons Cradle') seems as good, if not better, a remedy as any other. If it works, while still not a 'cure', it sure would be a decent vaccine..
Hoping you would chime in.
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Well.. That last post of mine wasn't very clear at all, more confusing I think, sorry.

What I meant to say was that I think this 'device' looks promising in providing better 'road-ability', particularly with lifted vehicles.

I do not believe it will do anything for D/W, as that effect is a factor of the relationship of the front wheels/tires to each other along a solid axle.

This device appears to address steering linkage impacts transmitted to the steering box/frame (ie-steering wheel/passenger compartment), not across the wheels/tires (in relation to each other) so i don't see how it could affect/limit the interdependent tire-wheel oscillations that occur to induce D/W..

Still though, it is an interesting idea/concept for improved road-ability..
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I'm wondering how long it lasts before wearing out, throwing steering center off and driving ESP bat sh!+ crazy.
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It really works

My name is on the Attenuator patent and would like to answer some of the questions that have been asked.
We have been manufacturing steering linkages and components for over 80 years. We developed this product with years of steering linkage experience. This product has been fully tested and designed to last. It does not replace the damper as some have asked or fix wheel wobble. However, it will reduce the road harshness and reduce snap oversteer during sudden steering maneuvers.
There are no packaging issues with the attenuator, it clears all original equipment components.
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Hey thanks for chiming in Compliant, any other info you can share ? Has this been used on a modified jeep
( lifted ) running stock drag link. .?
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Is that same as bump steer ?
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Good question. Kinda what I was thinking. Not a replacement though.

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It’s a little different from the stabilizers and dampers of the past. We have a simulator product on the short wheel base Chevy trucks that is built into the relay rod and really helps out on quick lane maneuvers and trailing loads. There are about 300,000 of these GM trucks on the road with our relay rods installed.

I would try it out if I wasn't running a aftermarket drag link.
My Cadillac Escalade came from the factory, with two absorb-er's, built into the relay rod.
I never new, whom manufactured them, but (maybe they are his).

Granted, our Wranglers would add considerably more abuse, verses my Escalade. But, they have performed flawlessly for about 76,000 miles.
I am running, 305x45rx22" tires. This will add, additional stress to the absorb-er.

So I think that we just may have something here, to consider.
But yes, they are a bit pricey......
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I like the idea that it won't tax the steering box or other steering components as a dual stabilizer might or a gas charged stabilizer even. It looks as durable as the stock link so that's not an issue for me. However, it looks like it only cancels between 11%-15% of the negative input from the research I read. Will it make that much of a difference for the $? I need to get some unbiased reviews on this one. I was ready to drop $300+ on the Fox ATS stabilizer this month if I get a black Friday sale. I think I'll I'll search some more on the Escalade part and see if it's similar and does the job.
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I like the idea that it won't tax the steering box or other steering components as a dual stabilizer might or a gas charged stabilizer even. It looks as durable as the stock link so that's not an issue for me. However, it looks like it only cancels between 11%-15% of the negative input from the research I read. Will it make that much of a difference for the $? I need to get some unbiased reviews on this one. I was ready to drop $300+ on the Fox ATS stabilizer this month if I get a black Friday sale. I think I'll I'll search some more on the Escalade part and see if it's similar and does the job.
What do you mean by "cancels 11-15% negative input" ?
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What is snap oversteer ?
Think 'Fast & Furious'; the prelude to 'drifting' without the control..
There are many websites that discuss it, just google "Snap Oversteer".

I like the idea of this device.. I think it makes good sense 'road-ability' wise, & should certainly save some wear & tear on 'upstream' components (steering box, column, etc..)

Canceling 11-15% of any 'undesired input' in an environment as dynamic as vehicle suspension is a pretty good feat, that percentage can easily determine the outcome of 'negotiating' a situation or 'wrecking'.
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You guys have very good questions and very good input.

We do not manufacture the two absorb-er's built into the relay rod for the Cadillac Escalade, but, we do manufacture the compliant relay rods for the short wheel base 2500 to 4500 GM trucks. Over the past four years we have over 300,000 of these compliant relay rods on the roads with no warranty issues from GM. We used the same compliant concept when developing the Attenuator for the Jeep.

Our Attenuator was not designed or developed to replace the stabilizer or dampers on vehicles, however, GM does not install a damper on vehicles that have our compliant relay rods.

One of the surprising features that we discovered during durability runs is that it eliminated the direct steel path from the wheel hub to the frame. This made a difference in the harshness that a driver feels from various different road conditions like the tar strips in roads. Doesn't eliminate the harshness but tries to match the rate of the suspension bushings.

To answer your question regarding the modified jeep, yes this product is as durable as the stock drag link. We have many test comparing this product to the stock linkage.
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Thanks, for the info. So who is going to be the test subject? Any forum discount??? ha ha
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What do you mean by "cancels 11-15% negative input" ?

I searched the part and it's in the product literature.
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For $100 I'd be all over that. For $200 I'll deal with my ride the way it is.
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I want to thank the few of you that addressed the cost of this attenuator. For a short time we are reducing the cost to $129.99 for everyone. If you're interested please just order off the website that Ken has listed in the original post of this thread. If you have any questions please send me a message to Compliant or reply to this thread.
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For $100 I'd be all over that. For $200 I'll deal with my ride the way it is.
There you go ... No excuse now rofl
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Thank you for the sale price. I just ordered mine, and I am glad it's made in the USA and I know that it means that it might not be the least expensive, but it is part of my steering after all ........ I will give you guys the review when I get it installed and put a few miles on it.

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