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Old 07-12-2015, 08:46 AM
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I live in Kansas and take my top off whenever weather permits, but for trips on the highway, the top has to go back on. Usually when driving over 45 mph (and sometimes slower) the wind is so strong that it's painful. Hats and sunglasses fly off your face etc. Now last week we were in Colorado, and it seemed that almost every Jeep was topless, so we tried it. Driving 80 on the interstate, while loud, was not nearly as fatiguing as 50 in Kansas. What a great experience to have a refreshing breeze! Oh how well some folks have it!

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We lived in Colorado Springs for 4 years back in the 90's. When we first moved there, we had a YJ. One nice July afternoon we decided to take a road trip to Woodland Park which is a few thousand feet higher than Colorado Springs. It was great until the sun went down! Even in July, it gets cold when the sun sets! We blasted down Rt 24 hugging the dash with the heater cranked as high as it would go! Beautiful country there and we miss it. There's nothing like trail riding around the Rockies!

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Late 90's riding through Colorado Springs in a Golden Eagle - great times.
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Was stationed in the Springs in the early 80s....got hooked on Jeeps than in the Army....but I rode bikes. Learned quickly the advantage of a "fairing/ windshield" and a "trunk" for jacket and gloves, even a helmet in a short period of time. For the cross country or mountain rides. FWIW it was 18 hours on the bike from Co to IN when I took leave. and Kansas was ALWAYS the roughest part!!! Hours of WIND and FLAT!!
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Haha, Yup!
It's not uncommon for it to be near 90° in the afternoon and then drop to around 45° at night where I live.

That's why people die when they get lost, and caught unprepared, on a hiking trip.

When I have the top off I'll drive to work in a tee shirt and when I leave at 1am I'll put on a winter coat and knit hat for the chilly ride home.
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"It's not the heat - it's the humidity." I'm in St. Louis and it gets to be about a million degrees with 512% humidity. It's like driving through soup with the top open. That gross, dense, wet feeling of the air + the sweat that isn't evaporating almost makes it... dare I say... unpleasant driving with the top down.

I spent a couple of weeks during summer in Colorado a few years ago and while I wasn't Jeeping, the air just felt better. The windows were open most of the time, and in general it was just an all around nice experience.

So yeah. I think heavy, wet, humid, saturated air probably hits you a lot harder than CO's dry climate when top down driving.
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"It's not the heat - it's the humidity." I'm in St. Louis and it gets to be about a million degrees with 512% humidity. It's like driving through soup with the top open. That gross, dense, wet feeling of the air + the sweat that isn't evaporating almost makes it... dare I say... unpleasant driving with the top down.

I spent a couple of weeks during summer in Colorado a few years ago and while I wasn't Jeeping, the air just felt better. The windows were open most of the time, and in general it was just an all around nice experience.

So yeah. I think heavy, wet, humid, saturated air probably hits you a lot harder than CO's dry climate when top down driving.
Only about 30 miles away from you! You are correct, these dog days of summer make going topless uncomfortable at times. It gets so nice in the evenings in CO that many homes around Colo Springs still don't have central A/C. The house we bought there was built in 1994 and didn't have A/C. I did get a small window unit for our bedroom because I like it cool for sleeping but the nights in CO were beautiful. CO also has very low humidity. During the day there can be a huge difference between shade and sunlight as well.
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Only about 30 miles away from you! You are correct, these dog days of summer make going topless uncomfortable at times. It gets so nice in the evenings in CO that many homes around Colo Springs still don't have central A/C. The house we bought there was built in 1994 and didn't have A/C. I did get a small window unit for our bedroom because I like it cool for sleeping but the nights in CO were beautiful. CO also has very low humidity. During the day there can be a huge difference between shade and sunlight as well.
The house we rented in Boulder had this fancy pants system where there was a big fan in the attic (not like a pansy little attic fan, a BIG thing) where it sucked the hot air up and out of the place. Ya opened the first floor windows, fired this thing up, and you basically had an artificial breeze through the house that pulled cool air in from the lower floors and cooled the whole house. Probably at like half the price of AC. Loved it. Wish you could pull something like that off here, but you'd just end up with well-circulated mildew.
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the wind is so strong that it's painful. Hats and sunglasses fly off your face etc
It seems like crosswind directs all the wind from the windshield directly to your face. When my eyelids start flapping around i usually start looking for a direction change.
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When my eyelids start flapping around i usually start looking for a direction change.
I actually LOL'd on that one!
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I live in Colorado now and had the freedom tops off in the blazing sun just the other day and was cranking the heater at about midnight - loved every minute of it. Colorado is amazing!
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The house we rented in Boulder had this fancy pants system where there was a big fan in the attic (not like a pansy little attic fan, a BIG thing) where it sucked the hot air up and out of the place. Ya opened the first floor windows, fired this thing up, and you basically had an artificial breeze through the house that pulled cool air in from the lower floors and cooled the whole house. Probably at like half the price of AC. Loved it. Wish you could pull something like that off here, but you'd just end up with well-circulated mildew.
Ah yes, the good ole attic fan! My grandmother had one of those here in IL. It worked good for about 2 weeks in the spring and 2 weeks in the fall. It was also great for importing dust!
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"It's not the heat - it's the humidity." I'm in St. Louis and it gets to be about a million degrees with 512% humidity. It's like driving through soup with the top open. That gross, dense, wet feeling of the air + the sweat that isn't evaporating almost makes it... dare I say... unpleasant driving with the top down.

I spent a couple of weeks during summer in Colorado a few years ago and while I wasn't Jeeping, the air just felt better. The windows were open most of the time, and in general it was just an all around nice experience.

So yeah. I think heavy, wet, humid, saturated air probably hits you a lot harder than CO's dry climate when top down driving.
Just a little west of Colorado - I spend most of the summer with the top and doors off. As long as I have the spyder web shade on it's great, until it breaks 100 degrees, then it gets a bit warm, but not intolerable. And even when it hit 107 earlier this summer, when the sun goes down it cools off quite a bit. Low humidity is great for toplessness.
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Depends on where in Colorado you live. I'm right next to the Rocky Mountain National Park and except for 4 days, we've had rain, hail, or both every day since April 1. Temps at my house haven't exceeded 65 degrees for the last week. I didn't get the dual top, so the hard top is still on.
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Depends on where in Colorado you live. I'm right next to the Rocky Mountain National Park and except for 4 days, we've had rain, hail, or both every day since April 1. Temps at my house haven't exceeded 65 degrees for the last week. I didn't get the dual top, so the hard top is still on.
Yeah ASSUMING that at some point I can live "out there" again it would be "Southern" Colorado...the "Springs" or further south......
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I live in Kansas and take my top off whenever weather permits, but for trips on the highway, the top has to go back on. Usually when driving over 45 mph (and sometimes slower) the wind is so strong that it's painful. Hats and sunglasses fly off your face etc. Now last week we were in Colorado, and it seemed that almost every Jeep was topless, so we tried it. Driving 80 on the interstate, while loud, was not nearly as fatiguing as 50 in Kansas. What a great experience to have a refreshing breeze! Oh how well some folks have it!
Just drove through North Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas and I must say you guys got some wind out there. Brings a whole new meaning to hood flutter.
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It's only 99, 35% humidity, 12 mph wind and heat index of 104 this afternoon here in D/FW. And it is absolutely miserable. Put my top back up a couple of days ago and not sure if I want it back down right now, especially driving home with work clothing on. And x10 on the wind, hot wind is the worst.
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Depends on where in Colorado you live. I'm right next to the Rocky Mountain National Park and except for 4 days, we've had rain, hail, or both every day since April 1. Temps at my house haven't exceeded 65 degrees for the last week. I didn't get the dual top, so the hard top is still on.
Yeah, I would have to say hail is the worst thing about CO. When we sold our house in CO Springs it was 9 years old and had the roof replaced twice already. At times, the hail is so bad, they get the snow plows out to clear the streets.
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Depends on where in Colorado you live. I'm right next to the Rocky Mountain National Park and except for 4 days, we've had rain, hail, or both every day since April 1. Temps at my house haven't exceeded 65 degrees for the last week. I didn't get the dual top, so the hard top is still on.
That's where we were last week. We spent 3 nights in Big Thompson Canyon and it poured the entire time. Still saw tons of Jeeps with just a bikini top or none at all. You will not see that in Kansas.
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It's only 99, 35% humidity, 12 mph wind and heat index of 104 this afternoon here in D/FW. And it is absolutely miserable. Put my top back up a couple of days ago and not sure if I want it back down right now, especially driving home with work clothing on. And x10 on the wind, hot wind is the worst.
Pretty close to Kansas...7:30 PM, 97 degrees, 55% humidity, 11 mph wind with gusts up to 25. Pretty standard for my neck of the woods in July.

Yesterday as I was leaving work it was 88 with 100% humidity. Light shower and tornados! I had to remove my glasses because they were dripping water.
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I live in Kansas and take my top off whenever weather permits, but for trips on the highway, the top has to go back on. Usually when driving over 45 mph (and sometimes slower) the wind is so strong that it's painful. Hats and sunglasses fly off your face etc. Now last week we were in Colorado, and it seemed that almost every Jeep was topless, so we tried it. Driving 80 on the interstate, while loud, was not nearly as fatiguing as 50 in Kansas. What a great experience to have a refreshing breeze! Oh how well some folks have it!
Your experience is largely due to the altitude. The air is simply less dense and hits you with less energy. I've experienced it countless times riding motorcycles out west. Get far less buffeting on a bike with a windscreen at altitude.
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Drove from Tulsa, Ok area, through Kansas, and currently sitting in Breckenridge, Co. The wind and the bugs in Kansas just about beat my Jeep to death.
On a side note, if you've never been to the Rocky Mountains, I highly recommend a summertime trip to these higher elevations. The weather is extremely weird here, but it's awesome. Tomorrow, I will be driving the Boreas Pass Road, linking Breckenridge to a tiny town down below the mountain. 23 miles of gravel roads in a jeep????? I'll take that.
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re: " in St. Louis and it gets to be about a million degrees with 512% humidity. It's like driving through soup with the top open. That gross, dense, wet feeling of the air + the sweat that isn't evaporating"

when visiting I was told the locals refer to that sensation of 'gummy bear flannel shirt from hell' as "close"

I wouldn't be able to tolerate living in such an environment for long.
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If you're in Breck, you should take Tiger Rd. East and hit the North and Middle Fork Swan River trails. These also connect up with Deer Creek, St Johns, Webster Pass, Radical Hill and more. Some of the best wheeling in that part of the state.

Boreas really is nothing more than a gravel road.
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Lived in Tulsa and Kansas City, among a few midwestern/southern places. I now live just west of Denver near the foothills, and have a small condo in Breckenridge (working from there this week). Boy, it was a life change moving to Colorado. I guess the mountains, creeks, and rivers make the place....mostly the mountains. Besides the humidity, I don't miss the bugs most of all. I used to be bored often there. It was too hot and humid to do anything outdoors and the mosquitoes and ticks were everywhere there were trails and trees. I still have good friends there but I only see them when they visit Colorado.
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I don't know...the mosquitos are pretty bad this year in the Conifer area at about 9000ft. I've been eaten up pretty good.
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Yeah, quite a bit of wet ground there I guess. Been a really wet year. However, the mosquitoes and roaches from my past, could have carried me away. I will not even get too much into the deer ticks (some were so small that I could hardly see them) that when mtg biking in Shawnee Mission Park in the KC area clustered and fell on me by the dozens or even hundreds. Some bigger types launched fro the tree branches too. Took years to get over the itching where they had clustered and bitten me. They were even in my insoles. I threw those clothes away.
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Been here all my life but still wouldn't live anywhere but Colorado. The only place I know where you can have snow one day and a tornado the next. The rain delayed taking the doors and top off but once off, I pretty much leave them off until Sep/Oct or it gets cold enough the wife says its time to button her up. As a kid, you learned you always take a coat and leave it in the vehicle. Never know what mother nature will deliver.
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I'm in Kansas too and although the wind can be brutal, we have nice days and the summer evenings and nights are great to run topless on the highway.

A must for windy days is earplugs; it totally changes the driving experience as many Jeepers and motorcycle riders around here know.
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Ticks: 20 minutes in a field one day and 19 tics! Mosquitos: not as bad as chiggers. Wind: brutal when it blows - 30 to 50 mph for several days straight on occasion.

It can be beautiful in the spring and the fall. Weather is great in the summer just after sun up and sun down.

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