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Old 05-15-2015, 02:29 PM
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topless vs sun shade vs stagecoach

Let's hear your opinions on the differences between these three configurations in terms of open air feel. I've heard many stories that suggest a sun shade does not diminish the open air aspect much at all, but what about leaving the soft top on for the sun protection and removing the windows and uppers (if you have half doors)? Does it significantly reduce the wind entry?

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When I only had my hard top I ran a Dirty Dog sunscreen, but now that I finally have a soft top I run stagecoach and much prefer the look and the complete protection from the sun. I will still run top down once in a while with the sunscreen, but I can't see that being too often.

I also like removing my doors when I can and with the soft top in stagecoach mode it's not really any quieter (wind wise) than having the top completely down.

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I love my SWS but only when I am doorless as well.

With doors off it still gives me that open feeling.

With just the top off it diminishes the feeling to me.

So install it only on the hottest months when the doors will be off with the top. In spring and fall when I leave the doors on more I take it off.
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I never take the top off. I hate that direct sun. But doors are off most of the summer and the rear window stays open full time.
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I love to run without the top and doors, but living in the southern part of Texas, during the worst part of the summer, I always run with my spider web shade during the day.

Like others have said, with the doors off, still tells very open.
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Have the SWS with freedom panels. It definitely takes away some of the open feeling to me but I am a hardcore convertible guy.
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Old 05-15-2015, 03:55 PM   #7
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I have the hard top for winter and had a TrekTop NX last summer. This summer I bought a Trek Armor Sun Shade. Doors off open feel but the Trek Armor provides enough shade to not have the sun bother me or the kids.
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I bought a mesh sunshade for my wife. She isn't a fan of direct sun.
I'm not much of a fan of the sunshade. It feels like a cage. But it keeps my wife happy.

I definitely prefer straight-up topless.
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Old 05-15-2015, 04:16 PM   #9
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Hands down much prefer running doorless with my SWS.

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Old 05-15-2015, 04:18 PM   #10
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SWS vs panels off (I have the freedom top):

- Topless there is definitely more open-air feel, but there is also more wind intrusion and if you're in direct sunlight expect to get hot and a little burned even if you're only out for 1-2 hours.

- SWS with panels off is a nice compromise, less wind, less direct sunlight, more comfortable but not as open feeling

- SWS with top off...haven't had a chance to really try that yet due to weather. I got the SWS for shade but without blocking all the light. I used bikini tops on my previous CJ-2A, CJ-7 and YJ. No real complaints about that, but I also ran those either doorless or with half-doors so there was more open feeling in general.

I haven't decided what I'm going to do about the doors on my JKUR, will have to see how often I think I'd be putting everything back on due to weather. If I still lived in CA it would be a no brainer, but with my JKUR being my DD and rain being pretty frequent around here it's a tough choice.
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Since I live in Indiana the thought of "Too Hot for TOPLESS" does not compute. However, since I am "older", and the JK has the Sunrider feature, (the TJ did not till I added the NX) and the biggest concern is pop up Thunderstorms, and lastly/ sadly there is not as much free time for just riding.......I prefer the Sun Rider with back windows out. If I will be in the Jeep the majority of the day, topless for sure!!
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Thanks everybody for your experiences! I'm trying to determine if I truly need a sun shade here in cloudy Minnesota.
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Thanks everybody for your experiences! I'm trying to determine if I truly need a sun shade here in cloudy Minnesota.
Been up there a couple times....IMO you won't need one....LOL
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I love my SWS.

With the kid, I don't get more doorless riding anymore, but as soon as I drop him off at daycare, I open up the Sunrider, flop the rear window, roll down the rest of the window, and enjoy the hell out of the vehicle. The best thing about an SWS is that you can leave the vehicle open all day in the sun, and the interior won't get hot. It does take a little bit away from the open air experience, but it is not like you can't remove an SWS if you really want to.
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I really don't get the sun shade thing if you have a soft top. To me it's like you want people to think or look like you don't have a top on.
for me I just take all the windows off. Its the same thing as having a sun shade on.
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I really don't get the sun shade thing if you have a soft top. To me it's like you want people to think or look like you don't have a top on.
for me I just take all the windows off. Its the same thing as having a sun shade on.
A spider web shade allows filtered light and air through. It is night and day from a regular soft top. No comparison, and as for caring if someone thinks I am running topless, I for one do not give even the slightest damb what some idiot thinks.
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I like doorless more than topless. I ran around last summer with the doors off and the freedom panels off. Now that I have a JKU with a soft top I plan to run stagecoach and no doors this summer. Ages ago when I had my YJ I remember running around stagecoach and really enjoying it. Going from stagecoach to top completely down is also very fast.
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What is stagecoach?
2 front doors off. Back doors still on with soft top down or hard top off.
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^^^...Yep soft top up but all widows out=stagecoach.
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I really don't get the sun shade thing if you have a soft top. To me it's like you want people to think or look like you don't have a top on.
for me I just take all the windows off. Its the same thing as having a sun shade on.
Spoken like someone that has never used a sunshade lol. It's nowhere near the same thing. On a hot day, my Jeep is cooler with the top down and a sun shade then with the top up and windows out.

I use a SWS 100% of the time over the front seats of my 2 door. Sunrider open almost every time I drive. I burn easily (bald head) and since I got the SWS I have not been burned once. I'm just gonna say it:

The Spiderwebshade prevents cancer.

Worth it to me.
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I use a SWS 100% of the time over the front seats of my 2 door. Sunrider open almost every time I drive. I burn easily (bald head) and since I got the SWS I have not been burned once. I'm just gonna say it: The Spiderwebshade prevents cancer. Worth it to me.
This is easily the best reason. The SWS does allow those of us who are bald to go topless without as much of a risk of sunburn. Still need to watch the left arm though. Also the SWS to me does provide more of an open feeling than a hat since it does not block as much view as a brim will.
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I have a blue shade (Spider Shade) on my grey jeep. Having the shade keeps the peace among my three children. Some want no top, some want the top so mom met in the middle and dad bought her a sun shade.
Same issue with doors. Some kids want doors, some don't want door. Mom has decided to start saving her pennies for half doors.
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Can the sunshade be peeled back to allow the front passengers to soak up a little sun while still shading the kids???in a jku 4 door
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I believe there is a shade product that has separate front and back pieces.
I have tried every combination I can think of even just hard top front panels on. I lean towards stagecoach but it depends on my mood.
topless today. may go stagecoach tomorrow and rest of the week since forecast is hot and sunny, the shade is nice. My doors have been on the rack in my trailer for a month, I don't miss them much.
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After a summer with the soft top I would go with stagecoach all the way. It is very convenient and easy. I left the doors on during the week for work and pulled them off for the weekends. If I wanted a little more open feel I would just fold the top all the way down and throw it up right after I was done. Before the summer I was planning on getting the dirty dog shades but now I have no desire to get them.
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Safari>stagecoach when it's really hot, no need for even the half doors. Top on, windows out, doors off. Safari rocks. Been running that way for days now.
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I've never had a sunshade but I often do run stagecoach style, either with or without doors. Plenty of airflow and keeps the sun off, but I mostly do it because it rains here all the time and it's quicker to just zip the windows back in than having to put the top up too.

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